I like the word 'musing' (here are some synonyms from a Google search: meditation, thinking, contemplation, deliberation, pondering, reflection, rumination, introspection, daydreaming, reverie, dreaming, preoccupation, brooding..."

So this process of thinking, deliberating, pondering produced the three questions:

1). How many wins will we end up with this season? We have discussed this a lot in another thread.

2). How many (and which) bowls does the MAC have and how will teams be selected for specific bowls. This is much more complicated than one might think. It is more like chess and making a move and having an opponent make a move. EMU haven't had to sit around musing about how the bowl selection process will shake out...

Here is the list from the MAC website which shows bowl agreements and possibles, although very unlikely (no one realistically expects WMU to play for the national championship, but it theoretically possible).

http://www.mac-sports.com/sports/2014/8/...h=football

From this list of 'minor bowls' I'm not sure how many the MAC have primary agreements, secondary agreements, etc. (I'd guess maybe five primary agreements).

The corollary is HOW MANY MAC teams will be bowl eligible? As of today, seven MAC teams are 4 - 3 or better. Three teams have five wins and WMU has seven. Those four appear to be in the "driver's seat" for bids.

3). My third question has to do with injured players who could be back for a game during bowl season. E.g., Could Shaq Vann be back for a game around Christmas or is he completely unable to play, period?

I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

I know I've gotten into it with some of you, but I will fully admit EMU is a pretty good team this year. I will eat my crow and especially if you guys beat us.

Looking at the schedule, I think 7-5 is probably the safe bet. WMU is probably going to be a loss, I think we should be favored at home as we get healthier, but then again we could also get more injured. Winning 1/2 between BSU and NIU is probably expected. Miami you guys should kill. 6-6 would be a disappointment, 7-5 is realistic, anything above would be pretty glorious for you guys.

However beating WMU would be awesome. Granted, the entire MAC is basically rooting for them, but I don't see how you can root for them if your team is still alive.

Also, considering what happened last year, I'm assuming once again some 5-7 teams could go bowling. 80/128 teams will go bowling. This link is helpful once the end of the season nears to see who is in or out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80...bowl_games

(10-17-2016 09:27 AM)george14 Wrote:  I know I've gotten into it with some of you, but I will fully admit EMU is a pretty good team this year. I will eat my crow and especially if you guys beat us.

Looking at the schedule, I think 7-5 is probably the safe bet. WMU is probably going to be a loss, I think we should be favored at home as we get healthier, but then again we could also get more injured. Winning 1/2 between BSU and NIU is probably expected. Miami you guys should kill. 6-6 would be a disappointment, 7-5 is realistic, anything above would be pretty glorious for you guys.

However beating WMU would be awesome. Granted, the entire MAC is basically rooting for them, but I don't see how you can root for them if your team is still alive.

Also, considering what happened last year, I'm assuming once again some 5-7 teams could go bowling. 80/128 teams will go bowling. This link is helpful once the end of the season nears to see who is in or out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80...bowl_games

Unless I'm missing something: CMU vs. EMU will be at The Factory. It is an EMU home game.

Were you referring to EMU and CMU or the CMU/WMU game?

(10-17-2016 09:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:27 AM)george14 Wrote:  I know I've gotten into it with some of you, but I will fully admit EMU is a pretty good team this year. I will eat my crow and especially if you guys beat us.

Looking at the schedule, I think 7-5 is probably the safe bet. WMU is probably going to be a loss, I think we should be favored at home as we get healthier, but then again we could also get more injured. Winning 1/2 between BSU and NIU is probably expected. Miami you guys should kill. 6-6 would be a disappointment, 7-5 is realistic, anything above would be pretty glorious for you guys.

However beating WMU would be awesome. Granted, the entire MAC is basically rooting for them, but I don't see how you can root for them if your team is still alive.

Also, considering what happened last year, I'm assuming once again some 5-7 teams could go bowling. 80/128 teams will go bowling. This link is helpful once the end of the season nears to see who is in or out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80...bowl_games

Unless I'm missing something: CMU vs. EMU will be at The Factory. It is an EMU home game.

Were you referring to EMU and CMU or the CMU/WMU game?

Yeah this was confusing and made no sense. Typical Chip.

(10-17-2016 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

Boca Raton Bowl is CUSA vs AAC this year. Miami Beach Bowl and Boca Raton Bowl alternate match ups.
.

(10-17-2016 10:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

Boca Raton Bowl is CUSA vs AAC this year. Miami Beach Bowl and Boca Raton Bowl alternate match ups.
.

I went to the Boca Raton Bowl website...

http://espnevents.com/boca-raton-bowl/about/

The website text is very confusing and logically incorrect. This sentence is logically incorrect.

"The Boca Raton Bowl is a college football bowl game that will feature the Mid-American Conference (MAC) facing off against an opponent from the American Athletic Conference (AAC) or Conference USA (C-USA) in alternating years. "

Which implies the MAC will participate every year which is NOT the case.

"The 2016 bowl season will bring together teams from Conference USA (CUSA) and the American Athletic Conference (AAC) on Tuesday, December 20, at 7 p.m. ET"


Bottom line: The text DOES say AAC vs. C-USA for 2016.

(10-17-2016 10:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 10:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

Boca Raton Bowl is CUSA vs AAC this year. Miami Beach Bowl and Boca Raton Bowl alternate match ups.
.

I went to the Boca Raton Bowl website...

http://espnevents.com/boca-raton-bowl/about/

The website text is very confusing and logically incorrect. This sentence is logically incorrect.

"The Boca Raton Bowl is a college football bowl game that will feature the Mid-American Conference (MAC) facing off against an opponent from the American Athletic Conference (AAC) or Conference USA (C-USA) in alternating years. "

Which implies the MAC will participate every year which is NOT the case.

"The 2016 bowl season will bring together teams from Conference USA (CUSA) and the American Athletic Conference (AAC) on Tuesday, December 20, at 7 p.m. ET"


Bottom line: The text DOES say AAC vs. C-USA for 2016.

I've been to both and planning on my third.

(10-17-2016 12:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 10:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 10:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

Boca Raton Bowl is CUSA vs AAC this year. Miami Beach Bowl and Boca Raton Bowl alternate match ups.
.

I went to the Boca Raton Bowl website...

http://espnevents.com/boca-raton-bowl/about/

The website text is very confusing and logically incorrect. This sentence is logically incorrect.

"The Boca Raton Bowl is a college football bowl game that will feature the Mid-American Conference (MAC) facing off against an opponent from the American Athletic Conference (AAC) or Conference USA (C-USA) in alternating years. "

Which implies the MAC will participate every year which is NOT the case.

"The 2016 bowl season will bring together teams from Conference USA (CUSA) and the American Athletic Conference (AAC) on Tuesday, December 20, at 7 p.m. ET"


Bottom line: The text DOES say AAC vs. C-USA for 2016.

I've been to both and planning on my third.

Your big 'transportation' expense isn't plane, train, etc. but parking. Right?

I could have saved myself some grief by simply 'looking it up, stupid...'

All the info is in the game notes, page 8:

http://emueagles.com.s3.amazonaws.com/do...df?id=4546

(10-17-2016 09:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Unless I'm missing something: CMU vs. EMU will be at The Factory. It is an EMU home game.

Were you referring to EMU and CMU or the CMU/WMU game?

My mistake, I meant I think we will still be favored on the road. A lot could depend on how we perform against UT this weekend and you guys against WMU. I'm assuming you will perform much better than we did against them.

(10-17-2016 10:16 AM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  Yeah this was confusing and made no sense. Typical Chip.

Yeah, real confusing. Said at home instead of on the road. Give me a break.

(10-17-2016 01:11 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Unless I'm missing something: CMU vs. EMU will be at The Factory. It is an EMU home game.

Were you referring to EMU and CMU or the CMU/WMU game?

My mistake, I meant I think we will still be favored on the road. A lot could depend on how we perform against UT this weekend and you guys against WMU. I'm assuming you will perform much better than we did against them.

(10-17-2016 10:16 AM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  Yeah this was confusing and made no sense. Typical Chip.

Yeah, real confusing. Said at home instead of on the road. Give me a break.

I'll call you on your s, just like anyone else. Feel free to stay off our board.

The main MAC eligible bowls this year are:

Bahamas Bowl
Miami Beach Bowl
Camellia Bowl
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Dollar General Bowl

(10-17-2016 03:19 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:  The main MAC eligible bowls this year are:

Bahamas Bowl
Miami Beach Bowl
Camellia Bowl
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Dollar General Bowl

Yes.

Now, I do wonder why we are not listed as a backup for the Quick Lane Bowl?

MAC is listed as a backup for a San Diego bowl.

ESPN loves WMU (Cotton) and EMU and CMU also to go bowling.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...alf-season

Can we end this thread until we actually become eligible. Anybody figure out if MVSU is actually going to count or not?

(10-19-2016 02:56 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Can we end this thread until we actually become eligible. Anybody figure out if MVSU is actually going to count or not?

Unless I'm missing something, don't all FCS games count toward eligibility? As long as you only play 1 per season which is the norm.

(10-19-2016 03:23 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 02:56 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Can we end this thread until we actually become eligible. Anybody figure out if MVSU is actually going to count or not?

Unless I'm missing something, don't all FCS games count toward eligibility? As long as you only play 1 per season which is the norm.

You are. The win over the FCS team counts towards bowl eligibility so long as said FCS team has at least 56.7 scholarships awarded (90% of the 63 total allowed scholarships) over a two-year rolling period.

MSVU had trouble meeting this requirement in past periods. Still not sure if this year's win counts for EMU's bowl status.

(10-19-2016 02:56 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Can we end this thread until we actually become eligible. Anybody figure out if MVSU is actually going to count or not?

No, keep it going. God knows if a fanbase ever deserved a purely speculative bowl projection thread, it's EMU's fans.

(10-17-2016 12:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 12:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 10:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 10:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-17-2016 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll try to go to Wikipedia or elsewhere to find out the specifics for some bowls I would love: Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Bahamas and Quick Lane (Detroit).

1). Unless something has changed the MAC is a back up to both the B1G and ACC for the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. It would be a great bowl for EMU, coming the day after Christmas on a day off (Dec 26) (Christmas Day is a Sunday this year).

EDIT:

2). Boca Raton Bowl is MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Raton_Bowl

3). Bahamas Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamas_Bowl

4). Miami Beach Bowl is also MAC vs. AAC. http://www.miamibeachbowl.com/sports/201...40857.aspx

Lest someone not be paying attention, the AAC is flat out loaded this year with HOU, Navy, Memphis, So. Florida, etc.

These three bowl games (MAC vs. AAC) will be good ones!!

Boca Raton Bowl is CUSA vs AAC this year. Miami Beach Bowl and Boca Raton Bowl alternate match ups.
.

I went to the Boca Raton Bowl website...

http://espnevents.com/boca-raton-bowl/about/

The website text is very confusing and logically incorrect. This sentence is logically incorrect.

"The Boca Raton Bowl is a college football bowl game that will feature the Mid-American Conference (MAC) facing off against an opponent from the American Athletic Conference (AAC) or Conference USA (C-USA) in alternating years. "

Which implies the MAC will participate every year which is NOT the case.

"The 2016 bowl season will bring together teams from Conference USA (CUSA) and the American Athletic Conference (AAC) on Tuesday, December 20, at 7 p.m. ET"


Bottom line: The text DOES say AAC vs. C-USA for 2016.

I've been to both and planning on my third.

Your big 'transportation' expense isn't plane, train, etc. but parking. Right?

i've never paid for parking.