(10-15-2016 12:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:40 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Im talking more about a national medicaid program for those less fortunate. Maybe set up on some type of sliding scale premium depending upon income.

Medicaid already exists for the poor and has trouble finding providers who will accept their reimbursement rate. Expand it on a sliding scale and you have even more people who can't find providers. Would you mandate providers accept Medicaid's level of payment (forced charity?)

Will those on this expanded Medicaid be happy with a very limited list of providers? People already complain about where they can get treated with their Obamacare plans.

They also complain about what treatments they are covered for. How do you decide what treatments those on government subsidized plans are entitled to?

Im also talking about spending a damn ton of money. It will not be cheap. It do it right will take a national commitment of resources and decisions about other programs and their importance would have to be made. The money will have to come deep cuts in programs that give us a poor ROI. There are plenty of them that fit that description.

What politician will agree to cutting pork they are bringing to their own backyard? We also talk about cuts to pay for new spending but the cuts never happen or don't happen deeply enough to offset the new expenditures. Hence the 19 trillion deficit.

I agree. It would indeed take a national commitment. Many like myself are ready for such a commitment. Im tired of this topic and Im tired of the constant increases in my premiums. My wife and I are now closing in on 19 grand a year of outlay for health insurance. It must stop. Lets get this done right this time.

(10-15-2016 12:51 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:40 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 12:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Medicaid already exists for the poor and has trouble finding providers who will accept their reimbursement rate. Expand it on a sliding scale and you have even more people who can't find providers. Would you mandate providers accept Medicaid's level of payment (forced charity?)

Will those on this expanded Medicaid be happy with a very limited list of providers? People already complain about where they can get treated with their Obamacare plans.

They also complain about what treatments they are covered for. How do you decide what treatments those on government subsidized plans are entitled to?

Im also talking about spending a damn ton of money. It will not be cheap. It do it right will take a national commitment of resources and decisions about other programs and their importance would have to be made. The money will have to come deep cuts in programs that give us a poor ROI. There are plenty of them that fit that description.

What politician will agree to cutting pork they are bringing to their own backyard? We also talk about cuts to pay for new spending but the cuts never happen or don't happen deeply enough to offset the new expenditures. Hence the 19 trillion deficit.

I agree. It would indeed take a national commitment. Many like myself are ready for such a commitment. Im tired of this topic and Im tired of the constant increases in my premiums. My wife and I are now closing in on 19 grand a year of outlay for health insurance. It must stop. Lets get this done right this time.

HRC is not the person to undue the damage done by Obamacare.