(10-07-2016 11:40 PM)muffinman Wrote:  Kinda bad for this to drop before the second debate. Isnt CNN running this one? They are going to be refering to this every chance they get.

Not sure if it's a Clinton News Network production, but Anderson Cooper is one of the moderators. There's a second moderator, but I forget who it is.

(10-07-2016 11:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm coming to the conclusion that the candidates we have to choose from are not plumbing the depths of moral decay never seen before in U.S. politics. If the technology was available to the public 10, 20, 50 and 100 years ago, we'd be thinking the same thing about past candidates too. The only difference is that things were hidden back then. You really can't have secrets today like you could back then.

JFK would never have been elected if he was running for office today.

(10-08-2016 05:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 11:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm coming to the conclusion that the candidates we have to choose from are not plumbing the depths of moral decay never seen before in U.S. politics. If the technology was available to the public 10, 20, 50 and 100 years ago, we'd be thinking the same thing about past candidates too. The only difference is that things were hidden back then. You really can't have secrets today like you could back then.

JFK would never have been elected if he was running for office today.

Yes he would, because the media would cover it up. There'd be a few random stories on Fox, none anywhere else, and the story would die.

Do you think his exploits were not well known back then? Of course they were, but all the major media wanted Camelot, so they covered things up.

I disagree. The media (and world) is a different beast today than it was 55 years ago. The media will go after Democratic politicians too when it comes to sex stories - just ask Anthony Weiner. John Edwards was brought down by the media. So too to an extent was Gary Hart.

(10-08-2016 06:39 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I disagree. The media (and world) is a different beast today than it was 55 years ago. The media will go after Democratic politicians too when it comes to sex stories - just ask Anthony Weiner. John Edwards was brought down by the media. So too to an extent was Gary Hart.

Anthony Weiner went so far, and got caught doing it, that they had no choice. Plus he was still a piss ant and not yet a major player.

John Edwards was brought down by the National Enquirer. All the MSM were telling us that there was nothing there, until the story could no longer be ignored. That stuff had been going on for years, they had to know, but he was the next JFK, so they covered it up until they could no longer keep a lid on it.

Hart was like Weiner, he went so far and got caught doing it that he could not be ignored, except that he was pretty much a major player.

I do think things are different in this regard. With the Internet and with so much more technology available today, it' harder to keep things covered up. But that doesn't keep the MSM from trying, whether it's Fox covering up problems with right wingers or the rest covering up problems with lefties.

lol, at all the faux outrage. I'm no Trump supporter but what he said is no worse than anything said in any locker room, etc. This faux media outrage is merely political and, as usual, the normal suspects are falling for it.

Don't forget about Bill Clinton, he had a lot of rape allegations and he still got elected.


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(10-08-2016 06:51 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Don't forget about Bill Clinton, he had a lot of rape allegations and he still got elected.


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What Trump said is nothing. I mean the man likes beautiful women. What the Hades is wrong with that? He said nothing worse than what many, many men have said. Pretty sure I've said the word "tits" before. The faux outrage is rather humorous. There are reasons to not vote for Trump, but this is not one of those reasons. This is just silly.

(10-07-2016 11:25 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 10:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:12 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Why does this crude TALK matter?…

Remember when Bill got caught getting blown by Monica,
the left screamed it's none of our business!!!!! It's just sex.

It shows validation of repeated accusations against him of disrespect for women and it also shows a glaring lack of giving a damn about cheating on is wife...and bragging about it. It matters to those that care that the POTUS have some level of dignity.

You support Gary Johnson and you have the gall to cast aspersions on Trump? Need I remind you of Johnson's rampant drug use?

Need I remind you that you are in the minority that oppose legalization of cannabis or have a problem with it.

(10-08-2016 06:50 AM)VA49er Wrote:  lol, at all the faux outrage. I'm no Trump supporter but what he said is no worse than anything said in any locker room, etc. This faux media outrage is merely political and, as usual, the normal suspects are falling for it.

I have less problem with his foolish bragging about his sexual proclivities and more with his open admission of adultery to a total stranger. He is the man that you would do everything to keep away from your daughter. I was not going to vote for this POS anyway. It just confirmed my resolve.

(10-08-2016 06:57 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 06:51 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Don't forget about Bill Clinton, he had a lot of rape allegations and he still got elected.


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What Trump said is nothing. I mean the man likes beautiful women. What the Hades is wrong with that? He said nothing worse than what many, many men have said. Pretty sure I've said the word "tits" before. The faux outrage is rather humorous. There are reasons to not vote for Trump, but this is not one of those reasons. This is just silly.

Yeah...Bragging about committing adultery and grabbing women by the crotch is nothing to be concerned about at all. It's just what we all do to set examples for our children on how a man is supposed to act. It's nothing.

(10-07-2016 11:24 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  We have two candidates who personify everything that is wrong about America. No good, neither one.

This is definitely bad for Trump. Especially with women voters who he already struggles with. True story, my wife saw it and now is not going to vote (she was reluctantly going to vote for Trump because we both refuse to vote for Hilary).

This is faux outrage.

We live in a country where a good portion of the population routinely speaks like this in everyday conversation.

(10-08-2016 07:23 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  This is faux outrage.

We live in a country where a good portion of the population routinely speaks like this in everyday conversation.

Well...That makes it fine then. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Stop just stop. This is not normal conversation.

(10-08-2016 07:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Stop just stop. This is not normal conversation.

If the responses on this forum are any indication? It is normal now and nothing to be concerned about.

(10-07-2016 11:25 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 10:25 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(10-07-2016 09:12 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Why does this crude TALK matter?…

Remember when Bill got caught getting blown by Monica,
the left screamed it's none of our business!!!!! It's just sex.

It shows validation of repeated accusations against him of disrespect for women and it also shows a glaring lack of giving a damn about cheating on is wife...and bragging about it. It matters to those that care that the POTUS have some level of dignity.

You support Gary Johnson and you have the gall to cast aspersions on Trump? Need I remind you of Johnson's rampant drug use?

LMAO. Aren't you precious.

Go drink a beer or smoke a J, maybe it'll untwist your panties.

(10-08-2016 07:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Stop just stop. This is not normal conversation.

Does it really surprise anyone from Trump?

(10-08-2016 06:39 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I disagree. The media (and world) is a different beast today than it was 55 years ago. The media will go after Democratic politicians too when it comes to sex stories - just ask Anthony Weiner. John Edwards was brought down by the media. So too to an extent was Gary Hart.

They did everything they could to protect Bill Clinton.