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RE: D-II/D-III/NAIA movement
Any word yet on the NAIA's newest members?
04-17-2018 10:17 AM
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(04-17-2018 10:17 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  Any word yet on the NAIA's newest members?

Sometime today.
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RE: D-II/D-III/NAIA movement
Here we go, earlier than last year:

http://www.victorysportsnetwork.com/Clip...embers.htm

"New members include: Columbia International University (S.C.), Cottey College (Mo.), Florida National University, Green Mountain College (Vt.), Lincoln College (Ill.), Ottawa University (Ariz.) and The Pennsylvania State University Schuylkill and Thomas More College (Ky.). Thomas More’s membership becomes effective at the beginning of the 2019-20 academic year."

There are 8, and I heard there was 9 applications. I was expecting Bahamas and Villa Maria, but they are MIA. I'd never heard of Cottey, they are about 70 miles south of KC, around 350 students, and their current athletics program is NJCAA.
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(04-17-2018 11:46 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  I'd never heard of Cottey, they are about 70 miles south of KC, around 350 students, and their current athletics program is NJCAA.

All women's college. I thought it was a JUCO. Guess they are going to all 4 years.
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(04-17-2018 12:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-17-2018 11:46 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  I'd never heard of Cottey, they are about 70 miles south of KC, around 350 students, and their current athletics program is NJCAA.

All women's college. I thought it was a JUCO. Guess they are going to all 4 years.

They are/were JUCO athletics. Apparently they have a nice 4 year program already:
http://www.cottey.edu/academics/bachelor-degrees/
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We may have to add three other organizations to the title. Movement of NJCAA, USCAA and NCCAA.

As for Junior and Community Colleges? How many will become a 4 year institutions to compete at a higher level? I know several JCs are now offerin 4 year degrees on the west coasts like in California, Arizona and Utah.
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(04-17-2018 12:35 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(04-17-2018 12:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-17-2018 11:46 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  I'd never heard of Cottey, they are about 70 miles south of KC, around 350 students, and their current athletics program is NJCAA.

All women's college. I thought it was a JUCO. Guess they are going to all 4 years.

They are/were JUCO athletics. Apparently they have a nice 4 year program already:
http://www.cottey.edu/academics/bachelor-degrees/

I can't find anything that says Cottey was ever just a junior college. I don't know how they do it but it seems there are some 4-year schools that compete in the NJCAA. Maybe that's what Cottey did; Arkansas Baptist College is a 4-year school in the NJCAA.

(04-17-2018 02:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  We may have to add three other organizations to the title. Movement of NJCAA, USCAA and NCCAA.

As for Junior and Community Colleges? How many will become a 4 year institutions to compete at a higher level? I know several JCs are now offerin 4 year degrees on the west coasts like in California, Arizona and Utah.

This would need a thread of its own.
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Thomas More Exploring Other Options For 2019-20 School Year

They may not accept the NAIA right now.
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I think Thomas More College(located in Crestview Hills,Kentucky-just across the river from Cincinnati) will join the NAIA as part of the Mid-South conference. After reading several accounts it appears they are just making sure they are covering all their bases to stay playoff eligible in their last NCAA D3 season.

More info at Victory Sports.com on the forums section.
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(04-20-2018 12:22 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I think Thomas More College(located in Crestview Hills,Kentucky-just across the river from Cincinnati) will join the NAIA as part of the Mid-South conference. After reading several accounts it appears they are just making sure they are covering all their bases to stay playoff eligible in their last NCAA D3 season.

More info at Victory Sports.com on the forums section.

http://victorysportsnetwork.com/Forum/vi...#pid726667
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Manhattanville College Returning To The Skyline Conference From Middle Atlantic Conference For 2019-2020

Middle Atlantic Conference had 17 members, but so many are leaving. Some left to create the new D3 conference.


MEC Reps Visited Frostberg State

That was very quick for a campus visit by the Mountain East Conference reps not long after FSU mentioning about moving to D2.
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Bacone College To Shut Down


Well, just lost a second Oklahoma school in closing down. The Muskogee school is in debt. Seems the online summer classes would be the last. I do think the state should step in, and make it a UCO-Muskogee campus or something like that. It said it is a school that serves the Native Americans.
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I should point out that the sports are suspended, but with the officials asking their students to have a backup plan in place before the fall? That means it is very bleak that it could be closed for good.
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(05-17-2018 04:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Bacone College To Shut Down


Well, just lost a second Oklahoma school in closing down. The Muskogee school is in debt. Seems the online summer classes would be the last. I do think the state should step in, and make it a UCO-Muskogee campus or something like that. It said it is a school that serves the Native Americans.

Bacone, like St. Gregory's before it, was historically a junior college. Bacone was a four-year institution from 1880 to 1920, then only offered two-year degrees until 1999. I presume the lack of alumni with bachelor's degrees from both schools impacted their fund-raising ability, as their alums ended up with degrees from other schools. In Bacone's case, they were also serving an economically challenged population, further impacting their finances.

https://newsok.com/article/2640136/bacon...ear-school

As there became less of a market for private junior colleges, both schools decided to offer four-year degrees. This kept both schools going for another 20 years or so, but they have now both shut down within six months of each other. Bacone had a niche as a historically Native American school.

Connors State College is a junior college in Warner, 20 minutes away. They also offer classes in Muskogee, IIRC. Northeastern State University is in Tahlequah, only 40 minutes away.

There is a precedent: When Phillips University in Enid shut down, Northern Oklahoma College (junior college) in Tonkawa opened a campus on the former Phillips property, owned by the city of Enid. However, with the state of Oklahoma's ongoing budget crisis, I'm not sure if either school can expand their offerings in Muskogee right now.
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(05-18-2018 04:58 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(05-17-2018 04:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Bacone College To Shut Down


Well, just lost a second Oklahoma school in closing down. The Muskogee school is in debt. Seems the online summer classes would be the last. I do think the state should step in, and make it a UCO-Muskogee campus or something like that. It said it is a school that serves the Native Americans.

Bacone, like St. Gregory's before it, was historically a junior college. Bacone was a four-year institution from 1880 to 1920, then only offered two-year degrees until 1999. I presume the lack of alumni with bachelor's degrees from both schools impacted their fund-raising ability, as their alums ended up with degrees from other schools. In Bacone's case, they were also serving an economically challenged population, further impacting their finances.

https://newsok.com/article/2640136/bacon...ear-school

As there became less of a market for private junior colleges, both schools decided to offer four-year degrees. This kept both schools going for another 20 years or so, but they have now both shut down within six months of each other. Bacone had a niche as a historically Native American school.

Connors State College is a junior college in Warner, 20 minutes away. They also offer classes in Muskogee, IIRC. Northeastern State University is in Tahlequah, only 40 minutes away.

There is a precedent: When Phillips University in Enid shut down, Northern Oklahoma College (junior college) in Tonkawa opened a campus on the former Phillips property, owned by the city of Enid. However, with the state of Oklahoma's ongoing budget crisis, I'm not sure if either school can expand their offerings in Muskogee right now.

Northeastern State has a campus in Muskogee already, and has for 20 25 years.
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(05-18-2018 05:20 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  Northeastern State has a campus in Muskogee already, and has for 20 25 years.

Thank you! I couldn't remember. I left Oklahoma for the last time 21 years ago, so I didn't realize that.

That answers the question: Muskogee already has access to a state university.
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(05-17-2018 04:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Bacone College To Shut Down

Not the Bacon College Fighting Oinkers! Say it ain’t so David, say it ain’t so!!!
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