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Navy Sailor Under Fire for Refusing to Stand During National Anthem
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RE: Navy Sailor Under Fire for Refusing to Stand During National Anthem
(09-27-2016 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-27-2016 03:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Serious question, when is it that they'll "gladly stand back up"? They say "when ALL AMERICANS are afforded the same freedom", but how do they quantify that? Show me a law that is racist and needs to be changed.

They will either sit/kneel for the rest of their lives, or start standing again once the attention wears off and everyone stops caring about the false premise that something out there in the ether that they can't pinpoint needs to "change".

Morons.
That is an excellent question. Perhaps now that they have brought you to this question, we can now have an honest discussion about it. See how wonderful protests work?


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Didn't need a protest for a conversation. Moreover, an honest can't be had because one side isn't interested in solutions, just wish fulfillment.


(09-27-2016 10:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(09-27-2016 08:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Question. Did she actually do anything?

There was an incident "on base" while on duty.

I did some digging and referenced my own current career as a navy reservist for some insight.

Here are some facts:

She was on temporary duty in Hawaii. As a reservist that means she was performing her mandatory two weeks of annual training (AT). She's not stationed there, that command is who her reserve unit (in Los Angeles) supports.

She's an intelligence specialist 1st class with 7 years of reserve service. If she enlisted 7 years ago as an IS this would mean she is a New Accesion Trainee (NAT). NATs serve a minimum 8 year contract and at the time revived a 20k bonus. If she has not advanced to 1st class (E6) by now and has had recent poor evaluations and no civilian job leads in the intelligence community, her future looks pretty bleak so she is likely riding out the end of her contract. In other words, "she has nothing to lose". So by her doing this she really isn't risking anything, her attempt to show that this is more important than her career is probably a very good stretch. And according to her Facebook, Auntie made it pretty clear she'll support her with whatever she needs. I doubt she'll get jail time, she'll probably get a non judicial punishment and a dishonorable discharge if they even go that far. Commands like to keep stuff like this hush hush. But if she keeps egging on with media interviews and continued Facebook posts, they'll have no choice but to throw the book at her and go full court Marshall.. Now here's the kicker, she probably ISN'T aware of. If she violates any terms of her initial contract and received a 20k bonus, she will be liable to pay that back..in full. Just a little food for thought and some clarity.

On point. She'll be discharged with an Other than Honorable and then will fight that in court.
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