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UAB had set a new record for for freshman enrollment 7 straight years before Black Monday. Then it dropped 5%.

Now this.

http://www.wbrc.com/story/32855082/uab-s...34509294=1

Until UAB can offer on campus dormitory / apartment space for a substantial majority of its student population, it will remain a "commuter school" for much of its enrollment. One of the advantages that UAB has is its urban location which means a lot of off campus housing is available for students, more than the usually more rural school has to offer. Sports teams are just one component of this allure for such an urban school, but it is an important component to many students.

Both of our state's major sports universities have announced huge increases in applications since their football teams have become more important in national coverage. While they have not greatly increased enrollment numbers, they have been able to be more selective about those they enroll.

I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

(08-28-2016 12:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

A good portion are sent to apartments close to campus like University House and Crowne on 10th. UAB also just signed an agreement to house 75 students in the Venue at the Ballpark apartments.

In order to keep up with demand, UAB needs to start building another dorm like the one they just finished immediately.

(08-28-2016 12:25 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Both of our major sports universities have announced huge increases in applications since their football teams have become more important in national coverage. While they have not greatly increased enrollment numbers, they have been able to be more selective about those they enroll.

That's not accurate. UAT's enrollment has skyrocketed in the last 10 years. UAT's enrollment hovered between 18,000 - 21,000 students up until 2004. In 2006 23,878 students were enrolled. In 2008 there were over 27,000 students (Note: Coach Saban got there in 2007). By 2009 it was approaching 29,000 In 2013 there were just shy of 35,000 students in Tuscaloosa. They topped 36,000 in 2014 and 37,100 in 2015.

In the ten years since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa, enrollment has increased over 55%. And, they are only being "selective" with in state applicants. They'll take almost anyone who applies from outside of Alabama to get the out-of state tuition. The legislature raised this very issue last year, pondering whether the state should continue to fund a university at the same levels, that no longer serves the state's citizenry as should. (49.3% Alabama residents, 57.7% out-of state students - SEE: http://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/index....ama_s.html & http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index....ttend.html). By contrast Auburn has over 65% in state students, while UAB has over 85%.

In the same period, Auburn's enrollment has only increased from 23,547 to 27,278 (15.8%). UAB's enrollment has increased from 16,572 to 18,333 (10.6%) from a high of 18,898 (in fall 2014 - 14% increase from 2006).

Schools have not released 2016 enrollment figures.

(08-28-2016 02:59 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 12:25 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Both of our major sports universities have announced huge increases in applications since their football teams have become more important in national coverage. While they have not greatly increased enrollment numbers, they have been able to be more selective about those they enroll.

That's not accurate. UAT's enrollment has skyrocketed in the last 10 years. UAT's enrollment hovered between 18,000 - 21,000 students up until 2004. In 2006 23,878 students were enrolled. In 2008 there were over 27,000 students (Note: Coach Saban got there in 2007). By 2009 it was approaching 29,000 In 2013 there were just shy of 35,000 students in Tuscaloosa. They topped 36,000 in 2014 and 37,100 in 2015.

In the ten years since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa, enrollment has increased over 55%. And, they are only being "selective" with in state applicants. They'll take almost anyone who applies from outside of Alabama to get the out-of state tuition. The legislature raised this very issue last year, pondering whether the state should continue to fund a university at the same levels, that no longer serves the state's citizenry as should. (49.3% Alabama residents, 57.7% out-of state students - SEE: http://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/index....ama_s.html & http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index....ttend.html). By contrast Auburn has over 65% in state students, while UAB has over 85%.

In the same period, Auburn's enrollment has only increased from 23,547 to 27,278 (15.8%). UAB's enrollment has increased from 16,572 to 18,333 (10.6%) from a high of 18,898 (in fall 2014 - 14% increase from 2006).

Schools have not released 2016 enrollment figures.

Math seems a bit off. Maybe, 42.3% & 57.7%? Besides, UAT would probably just screw UAB and UAH to keep their own funding levels...

(08-28-2016 02:22 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 12:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

A good portion are sent to apartments close to campus like University House and Crowne on 10th. UAB also just signed an agreement to house 75 students in the Venue at the Ballpark apartments.

In order to keep up with demand, UAB needs to start building another dorm like the one they just finished immediately.

I didn't realize how it works until recently when my daughter turned sophomore at JSU.

Upperclassmen tend to move towards apartments over dorms or at least at JSU.

At JSU if you live off campus (or outside of the campus) you do not have to pay for the full meal plan. In our case it still would be a good deal though.

Weren't there plans at some point for a new dorm on that southwest corner of the green next to the chemistry building? Probably would require demo of that annex building, but that's okay by me.

(08-28-2016 07:01 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:22 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 12:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

A good portion are sent to apartments close to campus like University House and Crowne on 10th. UAB also just signed an agreement to house 75 students in the Venue at the Ballpark apartments.

In order to keep up with demand, UAB needs to start building another dorm like the one they just finished immediately.

I didn't realize how it works until recently when my daughter turned sophomore at JSU.

Upperclassmen tend to move towards apartments over dorms or at least at JSU.

At JSU if you live off campus (or outside of the campus) you do not have to pay for the full meal plan. In our case it still would be a good deal though.

To add to that those receiving scholarships have to live on-campus. So, my son can either take the scholarship and live on campus or not take it, live at home, and save a decent amount of money...

At Alabama, freshmen must live on campus unless they live with a guardian. UA has about 6500 dorm rooms and, in 2015, had about 6100 freshmen. So, upperclassman pretty much have to live off campus...

My daughter has a scholarship at JSU (tuition only) & to my knowledge didn't have to live on campus unless it was a freshmen only thing.

(08-29-2016 08:07 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  My daughter has a scholarship at JSU (tuition only) & to my knowledge didn't have to live on campus unless it was a freshmen only thing.

UAB requirement...

Yep. She flirted with UAB's scholarship offer a little & we knew that UAB required it.

Also, if I didn't mention it above at JSU if you live off campus you don't have to purchase a meal plan. There is an off campus resident meal plan option though if you wish to purchase it.

There was actually an articel a few weeks ago about college scholarships. Essentially, it said that the full tuition scholarship is often not really worth it because of the on-campus living requirement that takes the money back.

We had to decide if a full tuition scholarship at JSU was better than a partial at UAB.
Money wise it was a no brainer.

Fortunately I took out an Alabama Pact account several years ago for my oldest daughter.

It supplements the full tuition by helping pay for housing, books & meal plans.

(08-29-2016 08:39 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  We had to decide if a full tuition scholarship at JSU was better than a partial at UAB.
Money wise it was a no brainer.

Fortunately I took out an Alabama Pact account several years ago for my oldest daughter.

It supplements the full tuition by helping pay for housing, books & meal plans.

In kinda the same boat, but JSU doesn't have his major...

(08-29-2016 07:17 AM)Blazer85 Wrote:  Weren't there plans at some point for a new dorm on that southwest corner of the green next to the chemistry building? Probably would require demo of that annex building, but that's okay by me.

Yep

(08-28-2016 12:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

I don't think that is the case. We just did the tour a few weeks ago and they said that freshman sometimes get rolled over into the non-freshman dorms because the freshman dorm fill up. We were shown a couple of places where new dorms were going to be (one day). I may be wrong but this is what we were told.

Also - most schools have a significant number move off campus after freshman year. My daughter moved off campus at Auburn to an apartment that is MUCH nicer than their dorms and it is cheaper than being in the dorms. They have some great off campus options that are basically private dorms. Apartments specifically for students where they share a common room, kitchen, laundry and each have their own bedroom. The beauty is that the contracts are per person and not for the apartment.

Same here BTR in regards to daughter's off campus apartment.

Apartments are a lot nicer than the dorms.

(08-28-2016 02:59 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 12:25 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Both of our major sports universities have announced huge increases in applications since their football teams have become more important in national coverage. While they have not greatly increased enrollment numbers, they have been able to be more selective about those they enroll.

In the ten years since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa, enrollment has increased over 55%. And, they are only being "selective" with in state applicants. They'll take almost anyone who applies from outside of Alabama to get the out-of state tuition. The legislature raised this very issue last year, pondering whether the state should continue to fund a university at the same levels, that no longer serves the state's citizenry as should.

Actually It is harder to get in for an out of state student to get in than in state. UAT has lowered requirements for in state students to meet their increased standards because of that legislative pressure. A large portion of these high academic students come from Texas because of George Bush 10% quota

(08-29-2016 11:17 AM)BTR Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 12:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I hear we turned away applicants for freshman housing.

I don't think that is the case. We just did the tour a few weeks ago and they said that freshman sometimes get rolled over into the non-freshman dorms because the freshman dorm fill up. We were shown a couple of places where new dorms were going to be (one day). I may be wrong but this is what we were told.

Also - most schools have a significant number move off campus after freshman year. My daughter moved off campus at Auburn to an apartment that is MUCH nicer than their dorms and it is cheaper than being in the dorms. They have some great off campus options that are basically private dorms. Apartments specifically for students where they share a common room, kitchen, laundry and each have their own bedroom. The beauty is that the contracts are per person and not for the apartment.

Other son does this. Hate paying for June and July, though, when he's gonna be in Birmingham. ..