http://triblive.com/opinion/salena/10993...igns-power

Quote:In Ruffsdale, (PA) I am pretty sure I saw more than 100 Trump signs.

It's as if people here have not turned on the television to hear pundits drone on and on about how badly Trump is losing in Pennsylvania.

It's not just visual: In interview after interview in all corners of the state, I've found that Trump's support across the ideological spectrum remains strong. Democrats, Republicans, independents, people who have not voted in presidential elections for years — they have not wavered in their support.

Two components of these voters' answers and profiles remain consistent: They are middle-class, and they do not live in a big city. They are suburban to rural and are not poor — an element I found fascinating, until a Gallup survey last week confirmed that what I've gathered in interviews is more than just freakishly anecdotal.

The Gallup analysis, based on 87,000 interviews over the past year, shows that while economic anxiety and Trump's appeal are intertwined, his supporters for the most part do not make less than average Americans (not those in New York City or Washington, perhaps, but their Main Street peers) and are less likely to be unemployed.

The study backs up what many of my interviews across the state found — that these people are more concerned about their children and grandchildren.

While Trump supporters here are overwhelmingly white, their support has little to do with race (yes, you'll always find one or two who make race the issue) but has a lot to do with a perceived loss of power.

Not power in the way that Washington or Wall Street board rooms view power, but power in the sense that these people see a diminishing respect for them and their ways of life, their work ethic, their tendency to not be mobile (many live in the same eight square miles that their father's father's father lived in).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...s-success/

Quote:Yet a major new analysis from Gallup, based on 87,000 interviews the polling company conducted over the past year, suggests this narrative is not complete. While there does seem to be a relationship between economic anxiety and Trump's appeal, the straightforward connection that many observers have assumed does not appear in the data.

According to this new analysis, those who view Trump favorably have not been disproportionately affected by foreign trade or immigration, compared with people with unfavorable views of the Republican presidential nominee. The results suggest that his supporters, on average, do not have lower incomes than other Americans, nor are they more likely to be unemployed.

Yet while Trump's supporters might be comparatively well off themselves, they come from places where their neighbors endure other forms of hardship. In their communities, white residents are dying younger, and it is harder for young people who grow up poor to get ahead.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a...id=2822059

These folks are less likely to be polled.

I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

(08-24-2016 09:12 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

The fact that there are people in the world who actually could believe this...

(08-24-2016 09:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:12 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

The fact that there are people in the world who actually could believe this...

Well I'll say this. While Showing My classic Muscle car at the recent Streetrod nationals here in Louisville for 4 days and over 10,000 cars much of the primary Non Car talk was about folks lack of trust with Hillary and of course Obama. These folks came from all over the USA. No Cars newer than 30 years old were entered. There were Trump signs inside of many tents supporting Him and Folks were getting Thumbs up from spectators alike. Car Guys Do Not like the Left wing agenda of Not being able to build Your Car the way You choose to like They do in California. Personal freedom rules the way We roll. That is America !
Can't find the most recent ariel shots yet but these are from recent ones here. Very similar to this years event.

(08-24-2016 10:52 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:12 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

The fact that there are people in the world who actually could believe this...

Well I'll say this. While Showing My classic Muscle car at the recent Streetrod nationals here in Louisville for 4 days and over 10,000 cars much of the primary Non Car talk was about folks lack of trust with Hillary and of course Obama. These folks came from all over the USA. No Cars newer than 30 years old were entered. There were Trump signs inside of many tents supporting Him and Folks were getting Thumbs up from spectators alike. Car Guys Do Not like the Left wing agenda of Not being able to build Your Car the way You choose to like They do in California. Personal freedom rules the way We roll. That is America !
Can't find the most recent ariel shots yet but these are from recent ones here. Very similar to this years event.

So you were in Kentucky... at a car show... for older cars (and I assume, thus a slightly older clientale)... shocker you found some Trump friends

Were any of "the blacks" that EverRespect mentioned there in DJT support?

(08-24-2016 10:52 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:12 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

The fact that there are people in the world who actually could believe this...

Well I'll say this. While Showing My classic Muscle car at the recent Streetrod nationals here in Louisville for 4 days and over 10,000 cars much of the primary Non Car talk was about folks lack of trust with Hillary and of course Obama. These folks came from all over the USA. No Cars newer than 30 years old were entered. There were Trump signs inside of many tents supporting Him and Folks were getting Thumbs up from spectators alike. Car Guys Do Not like the Left wing agenda of Not being able to build Your Car the way You choose to like They do in California. Personal freedom rules the way We roll. That is America !
Can't find the most recent ariel shots yet but these are from recent ones here. Very similar to this years event.

They are going to be shocked at who shows up to vote and who doesn't.

FWIW a lot of my wife's teacher friends are Trump supporters. But more out a visceral dislike of Hilary than out of Trump motivation. However, I have exactly two Trump supporters on Facebook, one being my father.

Quote:I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don't know. They're outside my ken. But sometimes when I'm in a theater I can feel them.

attributed controversially to Pauline Kael, The New Yorker film critic from Manhattan.

(08-24-2016 11:10 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 10:52 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 09:12 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I live in a center-left city and I don't live in a bubble, but Trump is getting about 75% of the people I talk to. A lot of people are telling me he is even doing well with the blacks.

The fact that there are people in the world who actually could believe this...

Well I'll say this. While Showing My classic Muscle car at the recent Streetrod nationals here in Louisville for 4 days and over 10,000 cars much of the primary Non Car talk was about folks lack of trust with Hillary and of course Obama. These folks came from all over the USA. No Cars newer than 30 years old were entered. There were Trump signs inside of many tents supporting Him and Folks were getting Thumbs up from spectators alike. Car Guys Do Not like the Left wing agenda of Not being able to build Your Car the way You choose to like They do in California. Personal freedom rules the way We roll. That is America !
Can't find the most recent ariel shots yet but these are from recent ones here. Very similar to this years event.

They are going to be shocked at who shows up to vote and who doesn't.

Yes They will. The Every Man and Every Woman will be out in full force to reject This elitist bunch of Wackoffs !!!!!

Pennsylvania would be always red if it wasn't for Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. The rural parts of Pennsylvania are tragically ignored.

If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle...or not, who knows anymore?

(08-24-2016 01:25 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle...or not, who knows anymore?

LOL Big Time.

Yeah, it's that bad.

(08-24-2016 01:22 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Pennsylvania would be always red if it wasn't for Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. The rural parts of Pennsylvania are tragically ignored.

If you don't count urban votes, every state would be red.