(08-16-2016 02:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  First their president, now this. It reads like someone that's been told they're out.

I truly don't think any decisions have been made yet, but maybe they are covering their bases if they don't get invited or can read where this is all going (no invite).

(08-16-2016 02:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  First their president, now this. It reads like someone that's been told they're out.

What's the point in letting this go public, though?

(08-16-2016 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You also have to factor in that if the AAC loses 2-3 members (ie. UConn, Cincinnati and Houston), its payday will be reduced. Also, there is a potential that adding UConn to the Big East would result in a pay bump to that conference's payout.

I have to question though whether the Big East would be interested in UConn. All the schools in the conference are of like-mind. I think the schools in the conference have a sour taste in their mouth for football. They have to be concerned that one day the Big 10 or the ACC could come calling for UConn for all sports and that might be an instability factor they don't wan to deal with.

You have to think that UConn is at least talking to the Big East about the possibility. My thought is that with 10 basketball only members, the Big East is plenty stable, so that the potential to lose UConn later is a lower order of magnitude problem than the 2011 and 2012 defections. UConn also provides another flagship program and familiar rival that should boost the Big East's weak tv ratings and improve future tv deals.

(08-16-2016 02:56 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  First their president, now this. It reads like someone that's been told they're out.

What's the point in letting this go public, though?

That's the part of this that makes no sense to me

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(08-16-2016 02:57 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You also have to factor in that if the AAC loses 2-3 members (ie. UConn, Cincinnati and Houston), its payday will be reduced. Also, there is a potential that adding UConn to the Big East would result in a pay bump to that conference's payout.

I have to question though whether the Big East would be interested in UConn. All the schools in the conference are of like-mind. I think the schools in the conference have a sour taste in their mouth for football. They have to be concerned that one day the Big 10 or the ACC could come calling for UConn for all sports and that might be an instability factor they don't wan to deal with.

You have to think that UConn is at least talking to the Big East about the possibility. My thought is that with 10 basketball only members, the Big East is plenty stable, so that the potential to lose UConn later is a lower order of magnitude problem than the 2011 and 2012 defections. UConn also provides another flagship program and familiar rival that should boost the Big East's weak tv ratings and improve future tv deals.

Didn't the Big East kick out UCONN though? Or am i remembering things incorrectly?

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(08-16-2016 01:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Blauschun has been writing a ton of stuff on the AAC fall out from realignment. Anyone who can has access to the stories want to share the gist of it? Interesting that he decided to go behind a pay wall. That's a very recent development (I know I was still able to read his stuff just couple of weeks at the most).

Someone posted this on another board, as a short summary of Blaudschun's article:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Who wants to bet his source is Mike Tranghese?

(08-16-2016 02:55 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  First their president, now this. It reads like someone that's been told they're out.

I truly don't think any decisions have been made yet, but maybe they are covering their bases if they don't get invited or can read where this is all going (no invite).

I don't think final decisions have been made on additions, but perhaps the whittling down process has began. If they haven't been outright told, I agree with you that perhaps they see where it is going.

If they felt good about their chances, you would think they would be putting their best foot forward and playing the game, not attempting to save face ("We aren't going to lobby"), then lashing out ("We may leave the AAC").

(08-16-2016 03:01 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Who wants to bet his source is Mike Tranghese - his friend, former Big East commissioner, and current UConn consultant?

Exactly what whoever first posted that blurb above says, too.

(08-16-2016 03:00 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:57 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You also have to factor in that if the AAC loses 2-3 members (ie. UConn, Cincinnati and Houston), its payday will be reduced. Also, there is a potential that adding UConn to the Big East would result in a pay bump to that conference's payout.

I have to question though whether the Big East would be interested in UConn. All the schools in the conference are of like-mind. I think the schools in the conference have a sour taste in their mouth for football. They have to be concerned that one day the Big 10 or the ACC could come calling for UConn for all sports and that might be an instability factor they don't wan to deal with.

You have to think that UConn is at least talking to the Big East about the possibility. My thought is that with 10 basketball only members, the Big East is plenty stable, so that the potential to lose UConn later is a lower order of magnitude problem than the 2011 and 2012 defections. UConn also provides another flagship program and familiar rival that should boost the Big East's weak tv ratings and improve future tv deals.

Didn't the Big East kick out UCONN though? Or am i remembering things incorrectly?

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The C7 invited Cincinnati and UConn to join them in the separation. They declined for football reasons.

(08-16-2016 02:57 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You also have to factor in that if the AAC loses 2-3 members (ie. UConn, Cincinnati and Houston), its payday will be reduced. Also, there is a potential that adding UConn to the Big East would result in a pay bump to that conference's payout.

I have to question though whether the Big East would be interested in UConn. All the schools in the conference are of like-mind. I think the schools in the conference have a sour taste in their mouth for football. They have to be concerned that one day the Big 10 or the ACC could come calling for UConn for all sports and that might be an instability factor they don't wan to deal with.

You have to think that UConn is at least talking to the Big East about the possibility. My thought is that with 10 basketball only members, the Big East is plenty stable, so that the potential to lose UConn later is a lower order of magnitude problem than the 2011 and 2012 defections. UConn also provides another flagship program and familiar rival that should boost the Big East's weak tv ratings and improve future tv deals.

On top of that, UConn..or even UMass if added would still be a minority in the conference. The previous Big East conference the basketball schools didn't have the power as they do now. Even with 2 FBS members in a conference, they still hold the majority interest and that is a different story.

(08-16-2016 03:02 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:00 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:57 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You also have to factor in that if the AAC loses 2-3 members (ie. UConn, Cincinnati and Houston), its payday will be reduced. Also, there is a potential that adding UConn to the Big East would result in a pay bump to that conference's payout.

I have to question though whether the Big East would be interested in UConn. All the schools in the conference are of like-mind. I think the schools in the conference have a sour taste in their mouth for football. They have to be concerned that one day the Big 10 or the ACC could come calling for UConn for all sports and that might be an instability factor they don't wan to deal with.

You have to think that UConn is at least talking to the Big East about the possibility. My thought is that with 10 basketball only members, the Big East is plenty stable, so that the potential to lose UConn later is a lower order of magnitude problem than the 2011 and 2012 defections. UConn also provides another flagship program and familiar rival that should boost the Big East's weak tv ratings and improve future tv deals.

Didn't the Big East kick out UCONN though? Or am i remembering things incorrectly?

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The C7 invited Cincinnati and UConn to join them in the separation. They declined for football reasons.

Got it

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Is this really a surprise to people? I'm sure Temple has considered the exact same thing. Why would either stay in a picked apart G5 conference with no natural rivals that makes peanuts now and will make even less peanuts in the future. If an alternative presents itself both teams will surely consider it.

Another UConn "bombshell" from everyone's favorite fake-UConn fan/dedicated UConn troll BE4evah.

Frank,

Like orangefan pointed out: UConn doesn't need any football leverage. It'll get the same (peanuts) G5 Indy payout from the CFP that BYU, Army, and UMass get. It's basketball alone that would make it considerably more money. And with more bowls than available teams, a six win UConn probably gets into some bowl anyway, every time.

And UConn would probably be one of the few teams the Big East could add that justify a pro-rata increase at that level.

It would really come down to the answers to the questions: a) could UConn live with an independent football program in the NE like UMass, and b) could the Big East live with adding UConn when it knows that they'd leave for an ACC, B12, or Big Ten invite, should that day ever come?

their football, which is the ONLY P5 driver in expansion, would suffer a major hit. BB would be a natural fit in BE, but man I wouldn't want to roll the dice on Indy for FB.

(08-16-2016 03:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 01:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Blauschun has been writing a ton of stuff on the AAC fall out from realignment. Anyone who can has access to the stories want to share the gist of it? Interesting that he decided to go behind a pay wall. That's a very recent development (I know I was still able to read his stuff just couple of weeks at the most).

Someone posted this on another board, as a short summary of Blaudschun's article:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

"look to join another conference?" There would be only 2 options for G5 conferences and that is the MAC and CUSA. I think the MAC is done playing around with football only schools after Temple and UMass. CUSA would be the other option but they are already way overloaded and would probably make more $$ being Indy. Unless either the MAC or CUSA requires some basketball games to be played regularly, I don't a benefit for either conference to invite them.
As for CUSA, at least for football only for UConn and UMass that would make the division more regional.
East: UConn, UMass, ODU, Charlotte, Marshall, UAB, FIU, FAU
West: S. Miss, La Tech, WKU, MTSU, UTSA, UTEP, Rice, N. Tex.

None of his opinions on CR are worth paying a nickel to see.

They need to just STFU, keep winning, and wait for the Big 10/ACC. Leaving the AAC and sabotaging their football would not be wise.

(08-16-2016 03:14 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I think the MAC is done playing around with football only schools after Temple and UMass.

That would seem to be MAC supporter sentiment, but there's not really any indication that the MAC would turn down UConn. UMass was not invited on it's own weight, it was picked as the best available option to balance Temple.

It's not as if UMass leaving represented a change of heart on the part of the MAC regarding FB-only affiliates. The affiliation agreement was set up from the outset to allow UMass to lose the FB-only option if Temple left (and Temple's renegotiated to have the same terms if UMass left) ... and Temple left and so the FB-only option was taken away from UMass.

With UConn, UMass FB could well have another go round in the MAC.

If they went Indy, I could easily see UConn creating an annual football scheduling alliance with Army, UMass and BYU (if they don't get invited by the Big 12). If they filled out the schedule with a school or two from the AAC (ie. Navy, Temple), ACC (BC, Syracuse, Pitt) and B10 (Rutgers) plus a regional FCS school that would be very appealing to their fan base-- much more than the current AAC lineup to be honest*.

* Not knocking anyone, I am speaking from a regional perspective.