(08-13-2016 07:47 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  America-hating, money-changing bankster who meddles in US politics with countless hundreds of millions of dollars giving thinly-veiled marching orders to our Secretary of State.

This is the kind of stuff the anti-Citizens United Zealots should be fuming over, but won't be.

Again, what don't you like about Soros?

His opposition to apartheid? His support for capitalism, democracy, and the rule of law in Eastern Europe? His support for persecuted minorities (eminating from his experience as Hungarian Jew who barely escaped getting murdered in the Halocaust as a 14 year old)? His opposition to Serbian ethnic cleansing attempts against the Albanian/Kosovar population in the 1990s?

Or is it that you just don't like the fact that he exercised his right as an American citizen to oppose George W Bush's policies?

Sure he funds liberals, and liberal think tanks, but I can assure you there's far more of that coming from the right. And we oppose citizens united.

How is he being against American values? How does he hate America? What specific policy?

(08-12-2016 07:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 07:09 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  Stunning revelation: Wikileaks hack shows that Soros called the shots on US policy toward Albania. George Soros told Hillary Clinton (as Secretary of State) to intervene in Albanian domestic politics - and she did.

EMAIL https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/ema...VBDSBGsBG4

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016...bania.html

Meh, George Soros probably knows more about Albania than many people. US Dept of State listens to lots of people, and if its a good idea, they do it. Why not talk to people intimately involved in Eastern Europe. Just because Soros suggested it, doesn't mean its a bad idea.

Do you really think that US Dept of State doesn't listen to American businessmen with specific knowledge of countries in order to better understand situations? Do you really think they shouldn't?

Soros would be an excellent Secy of State. By the way, Putin absolutely loathes Soros for his support of human rights and democracy. The focus on Soros is a Russian tell btw. Also any mention of a low level US State Department funcionary named Victoria Nuland, who per the Russians is all powerful. They obsess about both of them. If Soros wasn't so old, it be a perfect FU from President Hillary Clinton to Putin.

And basically Soros called on the US State Dept to call on Albania to calm everything down regarding social unrest in Tirana. Who would you send to friggin' Albania to mediate? I'll bet he gave them a suggestion who is going to be acceptable to all sides. Soros is a true believer in democracy and freedom. Being a Hungarian Jew who had to go into hiding to avoid getting rounded up in the Halocaust is his motivation.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump probably thinks an Albanian is someone with no skin pigment.

Seriously...this is what Assaunge/Roger Stone/Putin came up with in their latest haul? That and Nancy Pelosi's phone number? And the fact that the DNC used a password of 'Nutjob' to access Glenn Beck's blog? Okay.

How do you hold it together long enough to type all of this garbage

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Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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Tom,

I am interested in hearing about your experiences. If you could PM me that would be great. I know that we disagree a lot, but I am genuinely interested in your story.

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

bull****

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(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

He is a piece of crap whose actions are only for his own personal gain and to further his own personal vision of what the world is. He is an American oligarch if there ever was one.

(08-14-2016 07:24 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

He is a piece of crap whose actions are only for his own personal gain and to further his own personal vision of what the world is. He is an American oligarch if there ever was one.

^This. He is a vile human being. He is a globalist one-worlder. I oppose globalism and world government because it inherently leads to less freedom for individuals. Centralization is the enemy of individual rights. He seeks the destruction of nations and culture. He and his organization have activity recruited migrants to overwhelm Europe. He has meddled in Ukraine and encourages the US to intervene in the affairs of foreign nations, usually in nefarious ways. He is big-money and corruption in elections (basically think how you hate the Koch brothers).

(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

Soros-connected Vote-counting Firm Expands in U.S.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/ite...nds-in-u-s

(08-14-2016 07:43 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:24 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

He is a piece of crap whose actions are only for his own personal gain and to further his own personal vision of what the world is. He is an American oligarch if there ever was one.

^This. He is a vile human being. He is a globalist one-worlder. I oppose globalism and world government because it inherently leads to less freedom for individuals. Centralization is the enemy of individual rights. He seeks the destruction of nations and culture. He and his organization have activity recruited migrants to overwhelm Europe. He has meddled in Ukraine and encourages the US to intervene in the affairs of foreign nations, usually in nefarious ways. He is big-money and corruption in elections (basically think how you hate the Koch brothers).

Soros opposes fascism/authoritarianism. So if it is Orban in Hungary, Erdogan in Turkey, Milosevic in Serbia, Lukachenko in Belarus, the Kuczinksi twins in Poland, etc., he's going to help the opposition via LEGAL ways.

If ethnic cleansing, religious persecution, homophobia and racism are 'cultural perspectives' of the anti-globalist side then count me as a globalist.

Sure, people who don't like free elections, a free press, or human rights hate Soros.

So you supported Yanukovych in Ukraine? He was a sorry, corrupt, undemocratic, anti-American jerk who committed repeated human rights abuses and tried to sell his country to Russia.

Basically, the proponents of a 'Multi-polar' society (which is a movement directed AT the USA) basically want no collective action to be taken against countries and leaders that abuse their minorities and those who oppose their governments. So they can abuse without consequence.

(08-14-2016 11:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Soros opposes fascism/authoritarianism. So if it is Orban in Hungary, Erdogan in Turkey, Milosevic in Serbia, Lukachenko in Belarus, the Kuczinksi twins in Poland, etc., he's going to help the opposition via LEGAL ways.
If ethnic cleansing, religious persecution, homophobia and racism are 'cultural perspectives' of the anti-globalist side then count me as a globalist.
Sure, people who don't like free elections, a free press, or human rights hate Soros.
So you supported Yanukovych in Ukraine? He was a sorry, corrupt, undemocratic, anti-American jerk who committed repeated human rights abuses and tried to sell his country to Russia.
Basically, the proponents of a 'Multi-polar' society (which is a movement directed AT the USA) basically want no collective action to be taken against countries and leaders that abuse their minorities and those who oppose their governments. So they can abuse without consequence.

Soros opposes authoritarians except for HIS authoritarians. He supports socialist/communist authoritarians instead of fascist authoritarians, but at the end of the day, they are both the same thing.

What he does not support are freedom, liberty, and free markets.

As far as human rights abuses, are you claiming that the authoritarians he supports have not engaged in human rights abuses? His guys are just as much abusers of minorities and the opposition as are those he opposes.

As far as taking action against those who abuse, is that a unilateral responsibility of the USA, or should that be undertaken under the auspices of organizations like the UN or perhaps NATO?

(08-14-2016 11:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:43 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 07:24 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 11:15 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 10:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Soros is a one world government globalist. Eff that.

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He's a patriotic American, who has given millions of his own money to further the American values of democracy, capitalism, and adherence to the rule of law.

He is a piece of crap whose actions are only for his own personal gain and to further his own personal vision of what the world is. He is an American oligarch if there ever was one.

^This. He is a vile human being. He is a globalist one-worlder. I oppose globalism and world government because it inherently leads to less freedom for individuals. Centralization is the enemy of individual rights. He seeks the destruction of nations and culture. He and his organization have activity recruited migrants to overwhelm Europe. He has meddled in Ukraine and encourages the US to intervene in the affairs of foreign nations, usually in nefarious ways. He is big-money and corruption in elections (basically think how you hate the Koch brothers).

Soros opposes fascism/authoritarianism. So if it is Orban in Hungary, Erdogan in Turkey, Milosevic in Serbia, Lukachenko in Belarus, the Kuczinksi twins in Poland, etc., he's going to help the opposition via LEGAL ways.

If ethnic cleansing, religious persecution, homophobia and racism are 'cultural perspectives' of the anti-globalist side then count me as a globalist.

Sure, people who don't like free elections, a free press, or human rights hate Soros.

So you supported Yanukovych in Ukraine? He was a sorry, corrupt, undemocratic, anti-American jerk who committed repeated human rights abuses and tried to sell his country to Russia.

Basically, the proponents of a 'Multi-polar' society (which is a movement directed AT the USA) basically want no collective action to be taken against countries and leaders that abuse their minorities and those who oppose their governments. So they can abuse without consequence.

Tom in Lazybrook = Soros puppet

I highly recommend you find out the TRUTH about this guy (Soros}before voting for Hillary. Tom is blowing smoke up your AZZ!

Unreal, Tom.

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(08-14-2016 11:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 11:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Soros opposes fascism/authoritarianism. So if it is Orban in Hungary, Erdogan in Turkey, Milosevic in Serbia, Lukachenko in Belarus, the Kuczinksi twins in Poland, etc., he's going to help the opposition via LEGAL ways.
If ethnic cleansing, religious persecution, homophobia and racism are 'cultural perspectives' of the anti-globalist side then count me as a globalist.
Sure, people who don't like free elections, a free press, or human rights hate Soros.
So you supported Yanukovych in Ukraine? He was a sorry, corrupt, undemocratic, anti-American jerk who committed repeated human rights abuses and tried to sell his country to Russia.
Basically, the proponents of a 'Multi-polar' society (which is a movement directed AT the USA) basically want no collective action to be taken against countries and leaders that abuse their minorities and those who oppose their governments. So they can abuse without consequence.

Soros opposes authoritarians except for HIS authoritarians. He supports socialist/communist authoritarians instead of fascist authoritarians, but at the end of the day, they are both the same thing.

What he does not support are freedom, liberty, and free markets.

As far as human rights abuses, are you claiming that the authoritarians he supports have not engaged in human rights abuses? His guys are just as much abusers of minorities and the opposition as are those he opposes.

As far as taking action against those who abuse, is that a unilateral responsibility of the USA, or should that be undertaken under the auspices of organizations like the UN or perhaps NATO?

Who are his authoritarians? Donald Tusk doesn't count as one. Neither does the new Ukrainian government. Nor was the guy who followed Milosevic's folks

Its entirely possible that some unfree, anti-American, anti-freedom mini-despot who was opposed by Soros was replaced with someone who didn't work out (in maybe one case) but on the whole, Soros' support makes a difference for the better.

Any particular case of Soros supporting authoritarians against democrats who support freedom and democracy?

Soros supports liberty. Period. Unless that liberty is the liberty to abuse minorities, rig elections, invade neighbors, ethnically cleanse, or engage in apartheid.

Supporters of Soros are the same ones when younger loved Che ,Fidel and Chairman Mao