(08-13-2016 02:55 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 11:24 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:17 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 05:55 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Every single CUSA administration should be making their case for the AAC.

Beg? No.

Make your case now or risk not even having a chance of being picked. Maybe you don't view the move as an upgrade, maybe even your administration would agree, but regardless of how I feel about the move right bow, I'd rather be jockeying for position now, than scrambling to catch up later if/when circumstances change.

The way I look at it is if you're not in a P5 league, it's not going to matter what other league you are in. ESPN doesn't want to pay the current AAC teams, why should I or any other fan believe they are going to pay the same or more money for a league that includes ODU, MTSU, or Marshall.

How would you feel if you watched another group of CUSA schools move on and are replaced by another group of SBC/FCS schools?

If you have a X% chance of moving to a P5 conference from CUSA and a 1.5X% or 2X% chance(or whatever the case may be) of moving to a P5 conference from the AAC is it not worth moving on?

Again, I'm not saying it's the right move, I'm just also not saying it's the wrong move, just merely suggesting it would be prudent to prepare as if it is the right move.

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

stAte has also been know to oversell their team and program big time, as the undefeated Sunbelt Champs. Then get dominated by CUSA team in bowl game and allowed a CUSA team to break the Bowl record for total offense.

(08-13-2016 09:28 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 08:14 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 11:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 07:07 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  How shocking would it be if the 4 they chose were Temple, Arkansas St, NIU, and Colorado St?!

ESPN would loooove that... lol.

ESPN is going to hate whoever they choose to add. They'd much rather the Big 12 sit at 10 teams. That's why no one seems to agree to whether or not 14 or 12 is the right number.

As for AState: We're not idiots. We all know we're not getting in this cycle. We're thinking about future cycles. Specifically for that inevitable time when Texas and Oklahoma bail and the Big 12 blows up. We want our name to be out there whenever the league reorganizes at that point.

Plus, we are already making a presentation to the AAC, so why not send one to the Big 12 as well. It's all about feedback and learning where you can improve.

Well, as they say, ya never know till ya ask! We're holding out for a better offer.

Yeah, that's always worked out well for us in the past.

HAHA! Thanks for "seeing what I did there."

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

(08-13-2016 03:19 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:55 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 11:24 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:17 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 05:55 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Every single CUSA administration should be making their case for the AAC.

Beg? No.

Make your case now or risk not even having a chance of being picked. Maybe you don't view the move as an upgrade, maybe even your administration would agree, but regardless of how I feel about the move right bow, I'd rather be jockeying for position now, than scrambling to catch up later if/when circumstances change.

The way I look at it is if you're not in a P5 league, it's not going to matter what other league you are in. ESPN doesn't want to pay the current AAC teams, why should I or any other fan believe they are going to pay the same or more money for a league that includes ODU, MTSU, or Marshall.

How would you feel if you watched another group of CUSA schools move on and are replaced by another group of SBC/FCS schools?

If you have a X% chance of moving to a P5 conference from CUSA and a 1.5X% or 2X% chance(or whatever the case may be) of moving to a P5 conference from the AAC is it not worth moving on?

Again, I'm not saying it's the right move, I'm just also not saying it's the wrong move, just merely suggesting it would be prudent to prepare as if it is the right move.

If you're not in the AAC or MAC right now, your program will never see the light of day in the P5. So I don't know exactly what moving to another G5 conference is going to accomplish in the long run. Money is getting tight for the G5 conferences and it will only get worse.

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Well, to be fair dumb***, it was you that proclaimed the sale of, and I quote, "over 10 season tickets last year".

Lighten up Francis.

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

I tend to agree with you. I think they listen to proposals, and highly consider just saying no.

(08-13-2016 10:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

I tend to agree with you. I think they listen to proposals, and highly consider just saying no.

I just think the big money boosters and their egos are going to really struggle with this with the exception of maybe a couple of candidates.

(08-13-2016 09:57 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Well, to be fair dumb***, it was you that proclaimed the sale of, and I quote, "over 10 season tickets last year".

Lighten up Francis.

You knew what I meant but fair enough. Sorry for calling you a dumb***. take care.

Hey fellas, stop bypassing the profanity filter.

(08-14-2016 01:00 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Hey fellas, stop bypassing the profanity filter.

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Top 5 in Attendance:
USM 28334
Marshall 26322
UTEP 23212
UTSA 23008
Tech 20977

Here is an interesting take on the 18 teams officially seeking membership in the Big 12. Number four on the list may surprise you.

http://thecomeback.com/thestudentsection...merit.html

(08-14-2016 12:49 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Here is an interesting take on the 18 teams officially seeking membership in the Big 12. Number four on the list may surprise you.

http://thecomeback.com/thestudentsection...merit.html

Written by a football fan. Boise State, Arkansas State, these make sense from a football fan perspective and not much more.

The smallest endowment in the Big XII is Kansas State at $488.9M. Boise and stAte are good for a third of that, combined. I'm not casting stones, Middle doesn't belong in the conversation either.

(08-14-2016 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 01:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WOW....

lol at the silliness

Do you really believe ASU is turning a profit on a 30 million budget? Try winning a game vs a P5 school before thinking you can actually compete on a weekly bases. Isn't ASU something like 0-21 vs p5 over the last 10 years? With 90% of those over with before starting the 4th qt?

And I thought fishermen told tall tales LOL

stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Top 5 in Attendance:
USM 28334
Marshall 26322
UTEP 23212
UTSA 23008
Tech 20977

Season ticket sales. Thanks for playing though.

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 02:45 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  stAte beat A&M in 2008 at Kyle Field and has played many close games against P5s over the years. I think this year's team would compete very well with the likes of Texas Tech/Kansas/K State/Iowa and have a good chance against a lot of Big12 teams at home.

stAte has hosted games against TCU, Ole Miss, Mizzou, Cinncinatti, Louisville, Oklahoma St., has Miami (FLA) coming to Jonesboro next season, and has a home and home series set with Iowa State and many other AAC and MWC teams

stAte has also averaged around 25k per season over the last 5 years and sold over 10 season tickets last year. stAte opened it's indoor practice facility and it's new luxury suites and press box last year, and will break ground on a new football operations center next year.

Not suggesting stAte will be close to an invite, but maybe you don't have all the facts and information as to how the program has improved.

Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Top 5 in Attendance:
USM 28334
Marshall 26322
UTEP 23212
UTSA 23008
Tech 20977

Season ticket sales. Thanks for playing though.

UTEP's season ticket sales all time high was over 24k but the Miners need to have a couple of winning seasons to get back to that level. UTEP had a 12 year low in attendance avg last year but still is averaging over 31k over the last 10 years and has a number of games over 50k and many games over 40k in it's history. UTEP's fan base will turn out very well when a good team takes the field. And it's not theoretical, it's been proven.

So thanks for your participation young man.

(08-14-2016 03:17 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Top 5 in Attendance:
USM 28334
Marshall 26322
UTEP 23212
UTSA 23008
Tech 20977

Season ticket sales. Thanks for playing though.

UTEP's season ticket sales all time high was over 24k but the Miners need to have a couple of winning seasons to get back to that level. UTEP had a 12 year low in attendance avg last year but still is averaging over 31k over the last 10 years and has a number of games over 50k and many games over 40k in it's history. UTEP's fan base will turn out very well when a good team takes the field. And it's not theoretical, it's been proven.

So thanks for your participation young man.

I don't doubt UTEPs support at all, I've seen the numbers and remember watching when you guys hosted AZ in BB a year or two ago thinking that was big time college basketball atmosphere. Kudos to the Miners. It's a little confusing that you guys haven't been able to sustain football success with the numbers you've had in the Sun Bowl.

My comment was fully geared towards DawgsAss who is a known ODU hater. ODUs season ticket sales are 13-14k I believe.

(08-14-2016 03:17 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 09:08 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(08-13-2016 07:39 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  Whoa! 10? That is a lot. Welcome to the Big12.

I think when the current Big12 members take a hard look at the teams that have applied they are going to question whether or not they should actually expand.

I put expansion at less than 50% at this point.

Hey thanks for reading my last sentence dumb***! 10k is not enough for the BIG12 but check the season ticket amount for Tulane, SMU, NIU, SDSU and others before you start being sarcastic. A lot of CUSA schools are not even close. I suspect ODU, Marshall and USM are the leaders in that.

Top 5 in Attendance:
USM 28334
Marshall 26322
UTEP 23212
UTSA 23008
Tech 20977

Season ticket sales. Thanks for playing though.

UTEP's season ticket sales all time high was over 24k but the Miners need to have a couple of winning seasons to get back to that level. UTEP had a 12 year low in attendance avg last year but still is averaging over 31k over the last 10 years and has a number of games over 50k and many games over 40k in it's history. UTEP's fan base will turn out very well when a good team takes the field. And it's not theoretical, it's been proven.

So thanks for your participation young man.

(08-13-2016 07:59 AM)moehler Wrote:  honestly, I think you guys did the right thing staying out of this, none of these teams from the MAC or SBC, have a snowball chance in hell of getting selected, to me it makes them look kinda foolish and silly to think that they have any kind of shot.

Just wondering if you walk two steps behind the enhanced 5 schools. You sound scared. Take a chance...shoot for the moon or eat dust all your life.