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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
(08-19-2016 11:28 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 10:33 AM)CMichFan Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 08:57 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  BG has a clear path now? They lost all of their staff, offensive talent and had a bad D last year anyhow? Why can't UB, OU or Akron give them a run? With BG's OOC I could see them being 1-3 entering MAC play and ending the year below .500. OSU, MTSU, Memphis, Toledo, NIU, OU and Akron on the schedule... Is that too far of a stretch to make?

Word is Knapke is looking very good.
Passed for about 3200 yds and 15 TDs in 2014 as a Soph.

Akron lost their entire OL and the majority of their Defense. Bowden has brought in some good talent at some spots - especially on the DL -- but it could be tough sailing for awhile this season. UB I thought would do better last season. The 2nd season with the new coaching staff could be better, but there are still enough unknowns to make things interesting. Ohio is still my best bet to challenge BGSU...but only if one of the young QBs steps up, IMO.

Offensively I feel the Zips should be improved. With the players Bowden brought in we should be more talented at the skilled positions. Lane and Woodson now have a full season under their belt starting. They do have to replace the entire offensive line, but that really wasn't the strength of the team last year anyways. They will have plenty of time to gel as a unit before facing BG and OU as those are the 11th and 12th game of the season.

Defense is what I feel will make or break the team this season. That was the strength of the team last season and they have lots of holes to replace. I feel the defensive line should certainly still be a force. The question of concern is with the linebacking unit.

I'm not saying Akron will win the East, but I wouldn't be shocked if they do given all the turmoil at BG and OU losing who was likely going to be their starting QB.

The talking point that Akron has to replace its entire starting offensive line also is not entirely correct. Yes, they do have to replace five key guys, but Kyle Ritz played in every game last year as a sophomore (including five starts at RT) and he has an All-MAC future ahead of him. Stephen Ericksen also played quite a bit (including a start a center) as a sophomore last year.

The fact that Ritz is being moved from RT to RG, IMO, shows that Bowden likes what he sees out of JUCO transfer Jovann Letuli. Same for the moving Ericksen from center to LG. LaVonne Gauthney must be showing some ability at center. LT is a little scary with true freshman Trevor Brown listed as the starter, but I think that has to be Logan Tulley-Tillman's job once he gets up to speed.

For those who don't know about the Tulley-Tillman transfer. He was a four-star recruit with offers from just about everybody (Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, etc.), who was booted from Michigan and was set to transfer to Washington State. Since he had his degree from Michigan in three years, even though he is a junior, he is technically a grad transfer. He had a change of heart and decided to flip to Akron in June. He didn't arrive on campus, though, until camp started (some grade issues/paperwork needed to be worked out). It sounds like if Tulley-Tillman didn't do a stupid thing (filming himself having sex with a drunk girl, while drunk himself), he was in line to have been a starter (or at least in the two-deep) last year at Michigan.

But, overall, I'm also going to go on record in saying that Akron has a legitimate shot at winning the East. Like Kreed mentioned, they don't need the OL to be great, just average. Think they will achieve that.

And Kreed, obviously, every Zip fan would agree with you about the LBers, but I'm cautiously optimistic about that group.

For those who aren't familiar with the Zips, John Rachal is a four-year program guy who should be steady in the middle. I absolutely think Ulysses Gilbert is going to be a future star in this league. It's easy to see why he was at one point a Cincinnati commit, with offers from UCF, USF and others. Travonte Junius is a great athlete and was a sack machine at one of the best high schools in the country (Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary) and he'll be pushed by Brian Bell (who was committed to Florida State before being blackballed by the school for bogus PR reasons when he was unfoundedly accused of murdering a classmate in high school). Won't go into the details, but google Brian Bell's name and there is no shortage of articles on the case.

Overall, I'm not as worried as a lot of Zips fans about this unit. Plus, I absolutely love the H.S. tape of freshman DeMarkus Glover. Guy looks like a bigger Jatavis Brown, he may force himself onto the field this year.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/2890002/5721...5d90d0e1d2

Other than LB, not too many questions on defense. The DL could be even better as Marcus and Pittman are still at DE, and Brock Boxen looks promising inside. Hopefully, Miami grad transfer Jelani Hamilton (a former top 150 recruit) can also step in and be solid. ... The secondary should also be better with DeAndre Scott and Larry Hope (another Miami transfer) back at CBs, along with Boston College transfer Bryce Jones. Zach Guiser is solid at FS.
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08-19-2016 09:08 PM
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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
(08-19-2016 08:01 AM)george14 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 08:56 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Tyler Tettleton was a Soph with 23 pass attempts under his belt before winning 17 of his first 21 games as a starter. Hoping for another surprise.

He did get off to a hot start and finished 25-14 as a starter. Pretty impressive but only 14-10 in the MAC, let alone playing in the MAC East.

Ohio always seems to be a strange team. They've beaten Penn State, Marshall a few times, Pitt, and some solid G5 teams. But they always seem to falter in MAC games especially against lower teams.

Ohio has been a frustrating team. Look at Tettelton's first 5 losses-
- 12pts, @Rutger(9-4) that's legit.
- 1pt, @Buffalo(3-9) how?
- 3pts, vs Ball St(6-6) homecoming, how do you not lock it up?
- 3pts, vs NIU(11-3) MACC, how do you blow a 20-0 halftime lead?
- 3pts, @Miami there's no reason to lose this game. none.

4 of those 5 losses very realistically should have been wins. If that happens Ohio is 13-1 in 2011 and starts 2012 9-0. Crazy to think what could have been.

Either way, through 3 years with Tettelton Ohio started 17-4 and finished 9-10.
11-2 Sept.
7-4 Oct.
6-6 Nov.
0-1 MACC
2-1 Bowl

Frustrating.
08-19-2016 09:23 PM
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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
IIRC, that 2012 OU team ran into a rash of injuries halfway through the season and the wheels came off starting at Miami (the last win before our losing streak). Even at the time that should've been a game you won, but at the time we weren't cellar dwellers quite yet since we had some talent to keep us from completely falling apart under Treadwell. I think people forget how many good players we had returning after 2010, it's just we completely botched everything from there.
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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
Quote:The Ohio University football team wrapped up the camp portion of its preseason on Friday.

The Bobcats also finished off their quarterback competition.

Head coach Frank Solich announced that redshirt senior Greg Windham will be the team’s starting quarterback heading into the season opener on Sept. 3 against Texas State. Solich made the declaration following a walkthrough inside Walter Fieldhouse.

http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/oh...1dac4.html

So much for the idea that a young QB has to step up. Ohio names a 5th year senior as a starter.

Maxwell a redshirt freshman is the #2 and is apparently the next "guy" at the QB position for Ohio who will be picking up reps to get him ready for next season.

2017 Ohio has two 3 star QB's coming in. One of those will have to play right away.
08-20-2016 10:34 AM
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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
(08-19-2016 02:48 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 07:39 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 01:27 PM)george14 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 10:34 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Pretty sure OU has 0 experience at QB, if they do, it is very little. Maybe they have the next Tom Brady but that is doubtful.

Regardless, I have to take shots at the MAC East when given the chance. It's annoying to have the MACW filled with 4/5 best teams.

Probably means Greg Windham is the starter and Quinton Maxwell the back up. Windham played in 6 games. He came in when Sprague was injured in the first half against NIU. Windham's more of a traditional passer.

Right, 53 career pass attempts. That can't be a good thing unless he developed in the offseason as better than Sprague.

No disrespect to Ohio but I did not think they were as good as their record indicated. Sure they beat Marshall but they were also curb-stomped by Buffalo who was pretty bad, and beaten horribly by WMU and BGSU.

Beat the crap out of NIU and App State on the defensive side of the ball too.

The talent is there but Solich is not that great of a coach. They said when he left Nebraska he only won because of having top tier job and its more or less proven with only an 80-61 record at Ohio on some of the easiest FBS schedules in the country.

To be fair, NIU had their 3rd-string QB in there until he got injured, then they had a 5th string walk-on true freshman QB playing.

Bad luck for Ohio this time around.
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It always sucks to lose QBs. Ohio was also on their second string QB in Sprague, and he got injured in the game, so we played 2.5 quarters with our #3.
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RE: Ohio loses senior QB
(08-23-2016 04:00 PM)Roberto Gato Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 02:48 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 07:39 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 01:27 PM)george14 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 10:34 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Pretty sure OU has 0 experience at QB, if they do, it is very little. Maybe they have the next Tom Brady but that is doubtful.

Regardless, I have to take shots at the MAC East when given the chance. It's annoying to have the MACW filled with 4/5 best teams.

Probably means Greg Windham is the starter and Quinton Maxwell the back up. Windham played in 6 games. He came in when Sprague was injured in the first half against NIU. Windham's more of a traditional passer.

Right, 53 career pass attempts. That can't be a good thing unless he developed in the offseason as better than Sprague.

No disrespect to Ohio but I did not think they were as good as their record indicated. Sure they beat Marshall but they were also curb-stomped by Buffalo who was pretty bad, and beaten horribly by WMU and BGSU.

Beat the crap out of NIU and App State on the defensive side of the ball too.

The talent is there but Solich is not that great of a coach. They said when he left Nebraska he only won because of having top tier job and its more or less proven with only an 80-61 record at Ohio on some of the easiest FBS schedules in the country.

To be fair, NIU had their 3rd-string QB in there until he got injured, then they had a 5th string walk-on true freshman QB playing.

Bad luck for Ohio this time around.

It always sucks to lose QBs. Ohio was also on their second string QB in Sprague, and he got injured in the game, so we played 2.5 quarters with our #3.
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Those backup QBs really gotta be ready. Our 3rd-stringer is now the 2nd-stringer and has apparently looked good so hopefully we have more depth at QB this year. Until more guys get injured anyway.
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