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(07-31-2016 08:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  curious why usm or mis state didnt offer the starting qb..
he was essentially ready to walk unto any fbs team that said they wanted him

he sat behind chad kelly last year who is viewed as arguably one of the best qbs in the nation last year for ole miss, and beat out jonh franklin who is easily winning the auburn competition this year despite just getting there...

From what I saw of Franklin, he better improve a lot or it will be a long season for Auburn if he's their starter. The one game the Auburn asst saw him was as others said against one of the worst JuCo teams in the state last year....hence the first half score compared to some of the other games.

As far as the starter I feel like he wanted a P5 or nothing at all. I also "feel like but could be wrong" he probably didn't want to trash schools as much as some of his teammates did in the event one of them was his backup plan.
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(07-31-2016 08:50 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 08:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  curious why usm or mis state didnt offer the starting qb..
he was essentially ready to walk unto any fbs team that said they wanted him

he sat behind chad kelly last year who is viewed as arguably one of the best qbs in the nation last year for ole miss, and beat out jonh franklin who is easily winning the auburn competition this year despite just getting there...

From what I saw of Franklin, he better improve a lot or it will be a long season for Auburn if he's their starter. The one game the Auburn asst saw him was as others said against one of the worst JuCo teams in the state last year....hence the first half score compared to some of the other games.

As far as the starter I feel like he wanted a P5 or nothing at all. I also "feel like but could be wrong" he probably didn't want to trash schools as much as some of his teammates did in the event one of them was his backup plan.

Agreed on Franklin 100%. As far as Wyatt Roberts, that's an interesting argument I didn't consider initially

Another thing I saw was it was obvious this program has some money for being in po-dunk MS. Their many uniform combinations made me immediately compare to my Blue Raiders. Their stadium was nice too. As some pointed out, it looks like JUCO in MS is some serious business lol
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As a product of MS JUCO football (I was a manager though lol) I can tell you JUCO is BIG business in MS. My alma mater MGCCC just spent $10M updating all the athletic facilities and JCJC is one of the higher paying schools in the league for coaches (from what I have heard from other coaches). And on Roberts not playing D1 I have noticed that unless a QB is a D1 "bounce back" they probably won't play for a D1 team coming out of JUCO. At least not a P5 school. I don't know why it's that way but it is. He seemed pretty legit to me though.

Also this series reminded me how much of a Dbag Buddy Stephens is. I have had few interactions with him during my time at MGCCC and I thought he was a douche back then and this series just proved what I thought of him.
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(07-31-2016 08:50 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 08:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  curious why usm or mis state didnt offer the starting qb..
he was essentially ready to walk unto any fbs team that said they wanted him

he sat behind chad kelly last year who is viewed as arguably one of the best qbs in the nation last year for ole miss, and beat out jonh franklin who is easily winning the auburn competition this year despite just getting there...

From what I saw of Franklin, he better improve a lot or it will be a long season for Auburn if he's their starter. The one game the Auburn asst saw him was as others said against one of the worst JuCo teams in the state last year....hence the first half score compared to some of the other games.

As far as the starter I feel like he wanted a P5 or nothing at all. I also "feel like but could be wrong" he probably didn't want to trash schools as much as some of his teammates did in the event one of them was his backup plan.

he's from Mississippi im certain he knows your history (usm was top 25 in his high school years)...

he didnt want to do division 2 or 3 because of pride. but i also think he is well aware of his capabilities of not being as athletic or strong as kelly and franklin

IMO he'd have taken a walkon at usm...the only thing he said is i dont want to play division 2..im not sure about Mississippi but in Texas kids would rather quit football, than go d2... almost every recruit ha D1 bound on their ...they celebrate SFA offers as D1..as long as its d1
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(07-31-2016 08:50 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 08:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  curious why usm or mis state didnt offer the starting qb..
he was essentially ready to walk unto any fbs team that said they wanted him

he sat behind chad kelly last year who is viewed as arguably one of the best qbs in the nation last year for ole miss, and beat out jonh franklin who is easily winning the auburn competition this year despite just getting there...

From what I saw of Franklin, he better improve a lot or it will be a long season for Auburn if he's their starter. The one game the Auburn asst saw him was as others said against one of the worst JuCo teams in the state last year....hence the first half score compared to some of the other games.

As far as the starter I feel like he wanted a P5 or nothing at all. I also "feel like but could be wrong" he probably didn't want to trash schools as much as some of his teammates did in the event one of them was his backup plan.

Agreed on Franklin 100%. As far as Wyatt Roberts, that's an interesting argument I didn't consider initially

Another thing I saw was it was obvious this program has some money for being in po-dunk MS. Their many uniform combinations made me immediately compare to my Blue Raiders. Their stadium was nice too. As some pointed out, it looks like JUCO in MS is some serious business lol

Considering EMCC has won National Championships in 3 of the last 4 years (11, 13 and 14) I'd assume Adidas probably gave them most of it. As far as the helmets they probably got the same treatment. I noticed while watching that the coaches usually had on Nike attire unless it was game day while players were wearing Russell and UnderArmour apparel a good bit at practice.
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That's interesting. It's amazing how much money is available for successful football programs no matter geography and exposure
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Here's a pretty good article on the coach. The article was written in December 2014 which was just before they won their 3rd National Championship in 4 years

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sport.../20028309/
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I had to cringe during the Homecoming episode when they were following the two Homecoming Queen hopefuls around. God, that reminded me of being back in high school again.

And just shows how different the deep South is.

It's also weird seeing someone that you've known for years on a Netflix documentary.
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(08-01-2016 08:01 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  I had to cringe during the Homecoming episode when they were following the two Homecoming Queen hopefuls around. God, that reminded me of being back in high school again.

And just shows how different the deep South is.

It's also weird seeing someone that you've known for years on a Netflix documentary.

cringe?
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I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.
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(08-01-2016 08:44 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.

ya, it was amazing the lack of maturity by the players concerning their school work, I felt sorry for the academic advisor whose job was to make sure the kids take their studies seriously, I mean it was laughable when she shows up at a class to find out the majority of the players didn't even bring a notebook and pen, and to them it seem to be a big joke.
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(08-01-2016 12:13 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 08:44 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.

ya, it was amazing the lack of maturity by the players concerning their school work, I felt sorry for the academic advisor whose job was to make sure the kids take their studies seriously, I mean it was laughable when she shows up at a class to find out the majority of the players didn't even bring a notebook and pen, and to them it seem to be a big joke.

I guess athletic scholastic promotion is still alive and well is our High Schools, if that's the kind of class work ethic they came to the next level with. I went to HS in North Carolina and I remember if you had a coach or (friend of the athletic program.. wink wink) as your teacher, it was a glorified study hall for those of who participated in athletics. Both of my parents were teachers, one at the University level and the other at the Community College level, so they did not allow me to slack, but the opportunities were there.
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On the second episode now, thanks for the recommendation.
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(08-01-2016 03:00 PM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 12:13 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 08:44 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.

ya, it was amazing the lack of maturity by the players concerning their school work, I felt sorry for the academic advisor whose job was to make sure the kids take their studies seriously, I mean it was laughable when she shows up at a class to find out the majority of the players didn't even bring a notebook and pen, and to them it seem to be a big joke.

I guess athletic scholastic promotion is still alive and well is our High Schools, if that's the kind of class work ethic they came to the next level with. I went to HS in North Carolina and I remember if you had a coach or (friend of the athletic program.. wink wink) as your teacher, it was a glorified study hall for those of who participated in athletics. Both of my parents were teachers, one at the University level and the other at the Community College level, so they did not allow me to slack, but the opportunities were there.

Just to put things into perspective, the Ollie kid went to the same high school as Jerrell Powe.

Enough said.
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I binged all day Sunday after church... got through the whole thing. Very good. Thanks for the heads up.
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(08-02-2016 07:42 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 03:00 PM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 12:13 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 08:44 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.

ya, it was amazing the lack of maturity by the players concerning their school work, I felt sorry for the academic advisor whose job was to make sure the kids take their studies seriously, I mean it was laughable when she shows up at a class to find out the majority of the players didn't even bring a notebook and pen, and to them it seem to be a big joke.

I guess athletic scholastic promotion is still alive and well is our High Schools, if that's the kind of class work ethic they came to the next level with. I went to HS in North Carolina and I remember if you had a coach or (friend of the athletic program.. wink wink) as your teacher, it was a glorified study hall for those of who participated in athletics. Both of my parents were teachers, one at the University level and the other at the Community College level, so they did not allow me to slack, but the opportunities were there.

Just to put things into perspective, the Ollie kid went to the same high school as Jerrell Powe.

Enough said.

And for those who need a refresher on Jerrell Powe...he was a big time recruit give or take 7-8 years ago from Wayne County (MS) HS who went to Ole Miss but had trouble getting eligible and after a year or 2 his mom tells the media "He's a good kid, he just can't read". He was ruled ineligble his first 3 years at Ole Miss. His an article on the Powe kid

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sport...act/25127/
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Watched all 6 episodes this weekend.

Very good indeed.

The star of the show, IMO, is the academic adviser. She is good at what she does, and seems to really care about the players more than just for football. She goes above and beyond.
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Best of luck to UAB with DJ Law and that coach is a piss poor example to kids he is trying to turn around.
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(08-11-2016 04:13 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Best of luck to UAB with DJ Law and that coach is a piss poor example to kids he is trying to turn around.

Did that kid graduate? It left off as him needing to graduate this past spring to be eligible for UAB.

Here are some of my takeaways/SPOILERS (finished last night):

1) coach is a D bag. This doc has to hurt his recruiting. Although I'd be all in for Season 2.
2) For a JUCO they have really nice facilities, uniforms and equipment.
3) The academic advisor doesn't get paid enough; might be on greenies; and is kind of hot.
4) The guy that "roars" at the games should win an award for unintentional comedy.
5) The homecoming queen thing was kind of weird. Do people really care about that in college? Maybe its a southern thing.
6) This is probably true in a lot of places around the U.S., but I bet most of those kids can't read above a 4th grade level. Some of the adults too. The kids that made it out of there to play more football better hope they graduate or make it to the NFL.
7) I'm surprised that other QB didn't get any better offers than Miss College. Not SEC or anything, but higher than D2 at least. I suppose he might have and they didn't mention it and he was "SEC or bust."
8) That QB thats going to Aurburn looks like a bust waiting to happen. What do I know though?

All in all, it was a great docu-series.
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(08-02-2016 07:42 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 03:00 PM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 12:13 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(08-01-2016 08:44 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  I've been watching it myself. It is a very raw documentary. I think it shows exactly how many kids are not ready for the student side of student-athlete. A lot of the kids are honest about it too. They say "man, before I got here I never went to class" or never had to do the work, the teacher just passed them

Also, the Roberts kid, lots of people claiming he was in the same "D1 or bust" mindset as the Franklin kid (who in my mind is a chump). I could be wrong but I thought in one of the earlier episodes he said something to the extent of if he got an offer to play somewhere else he would go, if not he was just going to Ms St to finish his degree bc "eventually you gotta go to work". Loved hearing that.

ya, it was amazing the lack of maturity by the players concerning their school work, I felt sorry for the academic advisor whose job was to make sure the kids take their studies seriously, I mean it was laughable when she shows up at a class to find out the majority of the players didn't even bring a notebook and pen, and to them it seem to be a big joke.

I guess athletic scholastic promotion is still alive and well is our High Schools, if that's the kind of class work ethic they came to the next level with. I went to HS in North Carolina and I remember if you had a coach or (friend of the athletic program.. wink wink) as your teacher, it was a glorified study hall for those of who participated in athletics. Both of my parents were teachers, one at the University level and the other at the Community College level, so they did not allow me to slack, but the opportunities were there.

Just to put things into perspective, the Ollie kid went to the same high school as Jerrell Powe.

Enough said.

I believe that is the same school that Tracy Lampley went to as well.
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