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New CAA TV deal in the works
http://www.dnronline.com/sports/caa-eyes...a5ece.html

NBCSN deal unlikely to continue. CAA is actively talking to ESPN for a digital platform.
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Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

The article said the CAA gets some revenue for it's NBCSN tv deal, but not enough to distribute to member schools. So it's hard to say it'll be less when it wasn't anything the schools received in the first place. It was and will still likely be zero.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

I for one hope they get away from CSN... Where I'm at, I paid a little extra to get the CSN channels as they recently dropped Comcast Sports South. That said, even though I paid extra for them, DirecTV sometimes blocked the game due to it only being available for the region. It sucked, I paid money for a channel that was blocking the content I wanted to watch. Why even offer it?

Side note, we had a huge JMU watch party for the Richmond game set up at a bar. Come game time, the channel blacked out the game without notice. It's hard to get a watch party together when it's not a definite the game will be available. Very irritating.
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(07-28-2016 12:14 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

I for one hope they get away from CSN... Where I'm at, I paid a little extra to get the CSN channels as they recently dropped Comcast Sports South. That said, even though I paid extra for them, DirecTV sometimes blocked the game due to it only being available for the region. It sucked, I paid money for a channel that was blocking the content I wanted to watch. Why even offer it?

Side note, we had a huge JMU watch party for the Richmond game set up at a bar. Come game time, the channel blacked out the game without notice. It's hard to get a watch party together when it's not a definite the game will be available. Very irritating.

Yeah. This plus NBCSN not airing any games for the CAA this year and I'm done with them. ESPN3 is a better option at this point if they can guarantee every CAA team's home games are put on there. That would increase our coverage availability nationally compared to now.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
Several points to add...

1. ESPN has minimum operational performance standards which schools must meet for ESPN-3/WatchESPN broadcast productions (e.g., bandwidth, cameras, etc.). Also, the home schools almost always produce the ESPN-3 streams so JMU will have to improve significantly over the MadiZone Buffer Fest that we often get. Further, with few exceptions, the host athletic member school provides the announcers (and just hopes they are as objective as possible and not complete homers...this will also be a slight difference to MadiZone).

2. The SEC and ACC have spent many millions in production capability improvements at member schools' campuses to provide the SEC Network Plus and now ACC Network Extra (starting in a month) broadcasts to make more professional. Speaking of, while those 2 monikers are just ESPN-3/WatchESPN with a fancy new conference bow on them, having those outside of the ESPN-3 list of broadcasts does now open up space for CAA and others to fill some of that void - not that anybody is screaming for it, mind you.

3. The best connectivity with ESPN/ESPN-3/WatchESPN in addition to ESPN being a giant and better exposure for the CAA to me is the trickle over into other sports. Not just FB and MBB, but Lady Dukes, Softball, Baseball, etc. Also, as recently shown, the CAA FB Media Days and other non-game shows can be provided, though ESPN will not want to dilute their list of offerings with shows which will attract a dozen fans.

4. While there is no DVR option for ESPN-3 ala TV carriage, be aware ESPN-3 broadcasts are in archive for several weeks after an event completes so if you want to watch the game in entirety afterwards, that option exists. A lot of schools' fans somehow get them to YouTube for permanent viewing (though I'm not sure if there are any trademark issues with that practice).

5. Many athletic programs have a PPV option for all home live broadcasts across multiple sports events throughout the school year which are not on TV or streamed via ESPN-3. They use the same equipment and broadcast as if it is going on ESPN-3...just that ESPN-3 doesn't want it. This would be your Lady Dukes games against cupcakes at the Convo, for example. Coaches shows, bracket announcement party shows, etc. Think MadiZone, but you pay an annual fee (say around ~$79 is what I've seen for the entire school year or ~$10 for a month subscription). It's an additional revenue stream for the AA and puts the onus on the AA to provide live coverage of almost all home sports events throughout the school year on some kind of platform - TV or ESPN-3 as primary and PPV as backup. This also can help recruiting because our coaches can advise family members of recruiting targets that they can watch every game online from wherever they live if/when they cannot be in Harrisonburg. The CAA can develop a network across its members so a PPV to JMU gets you access to road games at CAA institutions.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

My Direct TV package has the ESPN channels, the NBSSN, FSN, CBSSN, Golf, Tennis, NFL, and a few more all lumped together from 205 - 221 with no CSN anywhere near them. It's up in the 600's right along side FS2 and a few other sports channels no one watches unless you have an attachment to the competition. No football fan surfs to that area, they only go there for a specific event and real men click from one sport to another, but we don't go up to those channels unless necessary.
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Might as well put CAA games on Periscope.
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Only 1 TV game at BFS this year. W&M game, that don't show ya the lack of interest in FCS for TV. nothing will. I think each team gets a TV game. we will be on 6 times and I'm not even sure JMU gets any moneys for away TV games. CAA does.
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I don't know of any conference whose members get money for individual games being on TV. The conference has a TV contract and the money is split among members equally in almost all cases.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/20...n3-tv-deal

An idea of the current deal the MVFC has with ESPN3 that I'd love to see the CAA get. Every conference game and most out of conference home games are on WatchESPN in addition to still having a regional TV deal with regional networks.

Edit: After reading around a bit more, it does seem like there are WatchESPN blackout restrictions if you're in a zip code that can receive regional networks that air a specific team's games.
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(07-29-2016 08:37 AM)Potomac Wrote:  http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/20...n3-tv-deal

An idea of the current deal the MVFC has with ESPN3 that I'd love to see the CAA get. Every conference game and most out of conference home games are on WatchESPN in addition to still having a regional TV deal with regional networks. There doesn't appear to be blackout restrictions on ESPN3 coverage.

Now, that would be cool.
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Interesting news from the NBCSN hockey schedule: they have a game scheduled for March 6 at 7:30, when the CAA basketball championship would usually be (7pm start on Monday night). Either an early game or the game will be on another network.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/sports-medi...nbc-nbcsn/
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(07-31-2016 12:24 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Interesting news from the NBCSN hockey schedule: they have a game scheduled for March 6 at 7:30, when the CAA basketball championship would usually be (7pm start on Monday night). Either an early game or the game will be on another network.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/sports-medi...nbc-nbcsn/

It's one thing for them to block out all FCS football, or college football in general since they don't air FBS anymore aside from one Notre Dame game. It's a whole different thing to not air our CAA basketball tournament, which was supposedly the motivating factor from NBCSN's end way back when this tv deal was originally signed. Yeager just got them to agree to throw in FCS games in addition to basketball.
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(07-31-2016 03:02 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 12:24 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Interesting news from the NBCSN hockey schedule: they have a game scheduled for March 6 at 7:30, when the CAA basketball championship would usually be (7pm start on Monday night). Either an early game or the game will be on another network.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/sports-medi...nbc-nbcsn/

It's one thing for them to block out all FCS football, or college football in general since they don't air FBS anymore aside from one Notre Dame game. It's a whole different thing to not air our CAA basketball tournament, which was supposedly the motivating factor from NBCSN's end way back when this tv deal was originally signed. Yeager just got them to agree to throw in FCS games in addition to basketball.

Nobody is watching either. Let's be honest.
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The CAA hoops tourney championship would be much better off on one of the ESPN networks. ESPN promotes/markets Championship Week and often there are good lead-in games into or coming in behind as well. Not too many college hoops fans are watching NBC-SN over ESPN that time of year. The junkies and casual observers are far more likely to be dialed into ESPN's coverage - even if on ESPN-2 or ESPN-U.
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I'm sure there is some simple answer but when the hell is the CAA Tourny final going to be then LOL.

Guessing Comcast SportsNet?
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why are you guys looking on NBCSN?

It's going to be on NBC. End of the contract. going out with a bang !
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