Idk if this has been mentioned yet but I just saw on sports center that the B12 commissioner said they will be "actively looking to expand". Anyone have info or heard more about this? Do you think it's because of the ACC network?

(07-19-2016 05:34 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  Idk if this has been mentioned yet but I just saw on sports center that the B12 commissioner said they will be "actively looking to expand". Anyone have info or heard more about this? Do you think it's because of the ACC network?

ANSWER:

Quote:news of ACC’s addition of ACC Network impacted Big 12’s decision regarding "continued interest in expansion"

- Brett McMurphy

I suspect they would be looking at adding schools in anticipation of losing one of all of Texas, OU, and Kansas. A good defensive move is to block a bridge to the ACC or B10. To hurt the ACC the most, you would take Houston and Tulane off the board.

Any chance the ACC see if there is interest from Texas or Oklahoma to join the ACC?

"We are looking for members that will grow over time as we grow," Bowlsby said. "That bring stability. That have a high top end."

This quote makes me think of Houston and Colorado State. Maybe the FLA schools.

(07-19-2016 05:59 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  Any chance the ACC see if there is interest from Texas or Oklahoma to join the ACC?

First quasi-official contact was made with Texas in 2010. Normally it's 7-9 years from that kind of contract to a public offer and acceptance.

GT - Contact 1972 offer 1977
Miami - Contact 1993 offer 2003
Syracuse - Contact 1993 offer 2011
BC - Contact 1998 offer 2004
ND - Contact 2003 offer 2012

VT was a special situation since they had been tossed out in 1953 by MD but another way to look at it is that they pursued from 1954 to 1977 as damn hard as possible. Louisville was also a special situation created by MD. FSU was also fast in response to PSU going to the B10.

A post from the Cincinnati Bearcat Banter board:

Boren listed the following six metrics:
Overall Athletic Department Strength
Fan Support
Market Size
Reputation
Academic Strength
"Growth Potential"

McMurphy did just tweet this though:

Brett McMurphy
Twitter › McMurphyESPN
Spoke w/several sources about Big 12 expansion. Everyone in play. Best quote: “Cincinnati leader in clubhouse but we don’t have a clubhouse"
6 mins ago - Twitter

^^^BOOM

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  A post from the Cincinnati Bearcat Banter board:

Boren listed the following six metrics:
Overall Athletic Department Strength
Fan Support
Market Size
Reputation
Academic Strength
"Growth Potential"

McMurphy did just tweet this though:

Brett McMurphy
Twitter › McMurphyESPN
Spoke w/several sources about Big 12 expansion. Everyone in play. Best quote: “Cincinnati leader in clubhouse but we don’t have a clubhouse"
6 mins ago - Twitter

Yes, I think Cincy is #1 at the moment, even over BYU.

Cheers,
Neil

(07-19-2016 05:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I suspect they would be looking at adding schools in anticipation of losing one of all of Texas, OU, and Kansas. A good defensive move is to block a bridge to the ACC or B10. To hurt the ACC the most, you would take Houston and Tulane off the board.

Tulane will remain "on the board", until infinity.

Houston might get in if expansion to 14, since once they go to divisions programs in the NOT Texahoma division will want annual access to Texas still.

Cheers,
Neil

(07-19-2016 05:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I suspect they would be looking at adding schools in anticipation of losing one of all of Texas, OU, and Kansas. A good defensive move is to block a bridge to the ACC or B10. To hurt the ACC the most, you would take Houston and Tulane off the board.

Get out of here with that Green Wave stuff. This isn't 1934.

Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

(07-19-2016 08:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

How do you figure that? NOTHING can kill the message board theories!!!

(07-19-2016 08:42 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

How do you figure that? NOTHING can kill the message board theories!!!

True... Some people actually believed bluevod.

(07-19-2016 08:42 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

How do you figure that? NOTHING can kill the message board theories!!!

...also the Dude got it right today...so he is batting 2 for 77.

(07-19-2016 08:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:42 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

How do you figure that? NOTHING can kill the message board theories!!!

...also the Dude got it right today...so he is batting 2 for 77.

As Clay Travis noted on Twitter regarding B12 expansion (paraphrasing) "This is like when a couple on the verge of divorce decides to have a baby to save their marriage. It never ends well."

Tulane is in the running if the Magnolia League ever becomes reality.

The Big XII expanding east is a fool's affair. The only programs available east have hit their peak, except for maybe the FLA schools, but they will always be behind UF and FSU.

BYU and Colorado State cement a foothold in the mountain time zone and don't offer anything new for the Pac 12 to come sniffing around for. I believe both the Salt Lake and Denver regions are some of the fastest growing in the nation.

Oklahoma
Ok State
KU
KSU
ISU
WVU

Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
CSU
BYU

(07-19-2016 08:30 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 05:52 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I suspect they would be looking at adding schools in anticipation of losing one of all of Texas, OU, and Kansas. A good defensive move is to block a bridge to the ACC or B10. To hurt the ACC the most, you would take Houston and Tulane off the board.

Get out of here with that Green Wave stuff. This isn't 1934.

I'm pretty sure he was kidding, Mark.

(07-19-2016 08:59 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:42 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 08:39 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Great news is this closes yet another message board theory about forcing us to join if the big 12 died.

How do you figure that? NOTHING can kill the message board theories!!!

...also the Dude got it right today...so he is batting 2 for 77.

As Clay Travis noted on Twitter regarding B12 expansion (paraphrasing) "This is like when a couple on the verge of divorce decides to have a baby to save their marriage. It never ends well."

That's perfect.