(07-26-2016 08:23 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 02:50 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  I would have said that about the potential loss to BSU. WMU isn't just hype. WMU has arguably the #1 receiver in the nation, the #2 QB in the MAC (right behind #1), two back-to-back MAC Freshmen of the Year award winners in RB, and a wide array of young talent on both sides of the ball as WMU has been ranked #1 in MAC recruiting. It's WMU's D though, that will be a hair over medicore At Best (and surely be several hairs under at least early in season), that will very possibly keep them from winning the MAC. But they certainly aren't merely hype, that's for sure. They finished last year beating #25 Toledo & winning their bowl against CUSA opponent.

With WMU spear-headed by coach PJ, with the strength of a thousand field mice, and former NIU stah, I say NIU is due to lose @WMU by default, with WMU geared to be better than the last two winning years (and frustrated by losses to NIU the past two). I would only say that Wouldn't be the default expectation if it were still the Harnish/Lynch days, of course.

I will take the WMU side in this one. The logic makes no sense. Some NIU fans are saying WMU is hype because they haven't beaten NIU since 2008, even though WMU is the front runner this year for the MAC. Yet when NIU is the front runner, the fact that CMU has beaten them the last 2 years means nothing? You can't take both sides here.

To say WMU is hype is ridiculous honestly. They have a senior QB, one of the best WR in the nation, 2 RB's who could win POY, and a lot of experience. Their defense is questionable but they will be able to outscore many teams this year.

The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

(07-26-2016 09:41 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

I understand that, but then you have people saying "last year is last year". We are going off of this year. WMU is the best on paper. I don't see NIU winning the West this year because they don't appear to even be a top 2 team in the West. I think WMU/UT/CMU/NIU could all be capable but I don't know. WMU is clearly the favorite. We don't need to turn into Michigan fans and play the history card. BGSU won it last year and I don't see them repeating or being that good at all.

(07-26-2016 10:13 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 09:41 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

I understand that, but then you have people saying "last year is last year". We are going off of this year. WMU is the best on paper. I don't see NIU winning the West this year because they don't appear to even be a top 2 team in the West. I think WMU/UT/CMU/NIU could all be capable but I don't know. WMU is clearly the favorite. We don't need to turn into Michigan fans and play the history card. BGSU won it last year and I don't see them repeating or being that good at all.

That's because you are using "on paper" as your quality standard. If it was a year to year thing in the west then I might agree. But NIU has somehow figured out MAC play better than everyone else. It's kind of like The patriots. They aren't the best team on paper, but the know how to win. Idk if it's due to the system, the coaching,QB play or just a psychological edge, but wmu has yet to transfer the "on paper" to "on field" over the Huskies.

(07-26-2016 10:13 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 09:41 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

I understand that, but then you have people saying "last year is last year". We are going off of this year. WMU is the best on paper. I don't see NIU winning the West this year because they don't appear to even be a top 2 team in the West. I think WMU/UT/CMU/NIU could all be capable but I don't know. WMU is clearly the favorite. We don't need to turn into Michigan fans and play the history card. BGSU won it last year and I don't see them repeating or being that good at all.

OK HOLD THE FARM. I needed to do not a double take, not a triple take, but a quadruple take on this post. If there is any fan in any MAC message board that plays the history card it is you. You still think CMU is good because of Dan Lefevour and CMU's mini-run from yesteryear lol

(07-26-2016 11:23 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 10:13 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 09:41 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

I understand that, but then you have people saying "last year is last year". We are going off of this year. WMU is the best on paper. I don't see NIU winning the West this year because they don't appear to even be a top 2 team in the West. I think WMU/UT/CMU/NIU could all be capable but I don't know. WMU is clearly the favorite. We don't need to turn into Michigan fans and play the history card. BGSU won it last year and I don't see them repeating or being that good at all.

OK HOLD THE FARM. I needed to do not a double take, not a triple take, but a quadruple take on this post. If there is any fan in any MAC message board that plays the history card it is you. You still think CMU is good because of Dan Lefevour and CMU's mini-run from yesteryear lol

The only time I ever do that is when the holier than thou NIU fans come out. I know we have a good team but back to back 7-6 seasons doesn't really indicate greatness. I chirp from time to time because I have to hear how NIU deserves to be in the B12 by some of you. And I also have to hear 90% of you cry like babies when CMU wins, then as soon as NIU goes on a winning streak it's like nothing happened.

Calm your tits. You're the one trying to predict an 0-6 start so when you guys start 4-2 you can feel better about everything.

(07-26-2016 11:40 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 11:23 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 10:13 AM)george14 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 09:41 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The Hype isn't about WMU being a good team or not, but rather a team capable of capturing the MAC West. The CMU losses NIU suffered did not prevent them from repeating as division champs. Until WMU gets over that hump, they are pretenders. The players you listed are the same players last year who could not get it done. I'm sure most will agree the Broncos have a good team, but can they win when the bright lights come on?

I understand that, but then you have people saying "last year is last year". We are going off of this year. WMU is the best on paper. I don't see NIU winning the West this year because they don't appear to even be a top 2 team in the West. I think WMU/UT/CMU/NIU could all be capable but I don't know. WMU is clearly the favorite. We don't need to turn into Michigan fans and play the history card. BGSU won it last year and I don't see them repeating or being that good at all.

OK HOLD THE FARM. I needed to do not a double take, not a triple take, but a quadruple take on this post. If there is any fan in any MAC message board that plays the history card it is you. You still think CMU is good because of Dan Lefevour and CMU's mini-run from yesteryear lol

The only time I ever do that is when the holier than thou NIU fans come out. I know we have a good team but back to back 7-6 seasons doesn't really indicate greatness. I chirp from time to time because I have to hear how NIU deserves to be in the B12 by some of you. And I also have to hear 90% of you cry like babies when CMU wins, then as soon as NIU goes on a winning streak it's like nothing happened.

Calm your tits. You're the one trying to predict an 0-6 start so when you guys start 4-2 you can feel better about everything.

I just thought it was odd you were complaining about history when you cannot let go of Dan Lefevour, the hypocritical alarm was blaring very loudly. NIU has the two favorite G5 big bowl team going into this season in USF and SDSU, with huge questions if they will even have a capable QB to play, I think that deserves some pessimism.

(07-26-2016 11:49 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 11:40 AM)george14 Wrote:  The only time I ever do that is when the holier than thou NIU fans come out. I know we have a good team but back to back 7-6 seasons doesn't really indicate greatness. I chirp from time to time because I have to hear how NIU deserves to be in the B12 by some of you. And I also have to hear 90% of you cry like babies when CMU wins, then as soon as NIU goes on a winning streak it's like nothing happened.

Calm your tits. You're the one trying to predict an 0-6 start so when you guys start 4-2 you can feel better about everything.

I just thought it was odd you were complaining about history when you cannot let go of Dan Lefevour, the hypocritical alarm was blaring very loudly. NIU has the two favorite G5 big bowl team going into this season in USF and SDSU, with huge questions if they will even have a capable QB to play, I think that deserves some pessimism.

When is the last time I mentioned that? The only time I really remember making comparisons is when we were comparing 2009 CMU to 2012 NIU. I think that's a pretty damn close comparison considering both finished 12-2 and ranked in the top 25. Other than that, I don't remember a time I have tried to use LeFevour/Brown/or any other NFLer to make a point about present-day CMU. Wouldn't make much sense.

I can tell we're getting closer to the start of the season!

I think the team is going to improve on last year's average offense. With QB troubles most of the season and a new line last year the team was in transition. Tommy Lee continually getting hurt also made it challenging. The young guys are going to step up and I think they will surprise. I'm saying 4 wins.

(07-25-2016 04:31 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 08:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  An overall optimistic group, Dog Pound says 4.4 wins for NIU

The chance we do not win 5 games is 0.00%

In the first 6 games?

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

(07-26-2016 04:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

SDSU at home to me is MUCH MUCH more winnable than WMU in Kalamazoo this year

(07-26-2016 04:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

SDSU at home to me is MUCH MUCH more winnable than WMU in Kalamazoo this year

Western Michigan? Please.

(07-26-2016 09:31 PM)McQuervo Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  *laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

SDSU at home to me is MUCH MUCH more winnable than WMU in Kalamazoo this year

Western Michigan? Please.

On paper I'd give WMU an edge because they have more offensive difference makers but the fact WMU is away makes it a much more difficult game.

(07-26-2016 04:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

SDSU at home to me is MUCH MUCH more winnable than WMU in Kalamazoo this year

We won against WMU with our backup QB.

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

I agree with the other responseside but USF and WMU are "not winnable"! We may or may not win one or both of those games, but I could not disagree with both of those games not being winnable! Pessimism is one thing but those games not being winnable goes too far!

(07-26-2016 09:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 09:31 PM)McQuervo Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 04:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

WMU had mostly the same players last year and we beat them. That one is winnable. The two toughest will be SDSU and USF.

SDSU at home to me is MUCH MUCH more winnable than WMU in Kalamazoo this year

Western Michigan? Please.

On paper I'd give WMU an edge because they have more offensive difference makers but the fact WMU is away makes it a much more difficult game.

WMU lost Braverman... and we no longer have our back up QB in starting. We'll be fine

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(07-26-2016 09:57 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-26-2016 03:51 PM)WeAreHuskies Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 02:19 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Looking at this schedule, man oh man is it brutally front-loaded. It wouldn't shock me if NIU went into the CMU game with a single win. I figure SDSU, USF, and WMU are losses. BSU a likely loss, but winnable. I figure NIU will split Wyoming and WIU. I will go with 2 wins. Of course may be hard to project at this point, if Hare doesn't play, NIU could be 0-6 headed into the CMU game.

*laughs uncontrollably*

Honestly? I think this team is being underrated. The key will be keeping people healthy. If we have Drew, I absolutely believe that we could win 5 or 6 to start the year. The one L I would really say there's a very good chance of is the USF game (and we could even possibly win that one). SDSU we can win, Wyoming is pretty awful, WIU we win of course, Ball State we win, WMU still can't find the formula to beat us. Let's have a little more faith people.

I don't think USF or WMU is winnable but the other 4 games are winnable. If Hare plays and NIU plays well , 4-2 is a possibility, but not likely, I think 2-4 or 3-3 is more likely. That is not a complete trashing of NIU, 3 of NIU's first 6 games are against very tough opponents.

I agree with the other responseside but USF and WMU are "not winnable"! We may or may not win one or both of those games, but I could not disagree with both of those games not being winnable! Pessimism is one thing but those games not being winnable goes too far!

At home I think both games would be winnable, but not @ USF and @ WMU. WMU probably has the best wide receiver in entire nation, but I totally agree with what someone said about Bravermen being gone, that feels good.