(07-17-2016 09:38 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 03:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Just listened to a short conversation on the Finebaum show.

George Schroeder from USA Today was on. With SEC Media Days occurring, there are plenty of figures in town to talk sports.

Anyway, they discussed Big 12 expansion for a bit. Schroeder, who is based in Oklahoma, thought the league would be looking for Power 5 additions when their GOR expires. If no one is available though then schools like OU would be moving in all likelihood.

Finebaum asked if OU might end up in the SEC. Schroeder said he thought so and that OSU would be the most likely partner. He said it may have to be that way due to political pressure in the state of OK.

I thought that was all very interesting.

He was asked if he could see it happening not that it would happen. That part of the interview wasn't even a minute long. He made it clear he wasn't predicting that it would happen.

He was asked by Finebaum if at the end of the GOR "might we see Oklahoma here?" Schroeder said "I think so." That would imply Schroeder felt the more likely landing spot for OU would be the SEC rather than the B1G which was only mentioned in passing by the way.

Yes, the portion of the interview dealing with realignment was short. I never said it was an in depth conversation on the inner workings of potential moves. Regardless of it's length, it happened. So what is your point? You have "first hand knowledge" of OU moving to the B1G and you just wanted to come here and let us know that's the way things will play out?

Remember that this is an SEC board so if you're thinking of coming over here and doing your typical B1G-homer trolling bull**** then just know nobody's going to tolerate it. So you might want to keep that in mind. Don't pretend that people over here aren't aware of your schtick on other boards...

(07-17-2016 07:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Hope we don't waste ANY slots on Okie schools and just stay laser focused on the REAL prize: NC/VA

Adding another Florida sized population base to the conference is the only real payoff worth expansion

The final two will be for content, not population.

If that's true then bring in 2 schools relevant to most of the conference: FSU and Clemson. Ratings for them as SEC members would be huge! Far bigger and better than OU/OSU would ever get.

Depending on the timing, I think it's possible we could get all 4.

(07-17-2016 07:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Hope we don't waste ANY slots on Okie schools and just stay laser focused on the REAL prize: NC/VA

Adding another Florida sized population base to the conference is the only real payoff worth expansion

The final two will be for content, not population.

If that's true then bring in 2 schools relevant to most of the conference: FSU and Clemson. Ratings for them as SEC members would be huge! Far bigger and better than OU/OSU would ever get.

Well it's long been established that those two are my first preference.

(07-17-2016 09:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 07:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Hope we don't waste ANY slots on Okie schools and just stay laser focused on the REAL prize: NC/VA

Adding another Florida sized population base to the conference is the only real payoff worth expansion

The final two will be for content, not population.

If that's true then bring in 2 schools relevant to most of the conference: FSU and Clemson. Ratings for them as SEC members would be huge! Far bigger and better than OU/OSU would ever get.

Well it's long been established that those two are my first preference.

Do you think that you can wait another 20 years or so.....

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...cc-network

The Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN have agreed to a 20-year deal and rights extension through the 2035-36 academic year, sources said.

The ACC also extended its conference grant of rights deal nine years through 2035-36, a source said.

The last SEC expansions were about 20 years apart.

So yes

(07-18-2016 08:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  Do you think that you can wait another 20 years or so.....

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...cc-network

The Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN have agreed to a 20-year deal and rights extension through the 2035-36 academic year, sources said.

The ACC also extended its conference grant of rights deal nine years through 2035-36, a source said.

Muy interesante

Congratulations. It looks like the ACC will be together for the long haul.

My question would be, with an ACCN, does the league take an interest in acquiring properties from the Big 12? It will be interesting to watch.

(07-18-2016 08:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 09:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 07:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-17-2016 12:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Hope we don't waste ANY slots on Okie schools and just stay laser focused on the REAL prize: NC/VA

Adding another Florida sized population base to the conference is the only real payoff worth expansion

The final two will be for content, not population.

If that's true then bring in 2 schools relevant to most of the conference: FSU and Clemson. Ratings for them as SEC members would be huge! Far bigger and better than OU/OSU would ever get.

Well it's long been established that those two are my first preference.

Do you think that you can wait another 20 years or so.....

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...cc-network

The Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN have agreed to a 20-year deal and rights extension through the 2035-36 academic year, sources said.

The ACC also extended its conference grant of rights deal nine years through 2035-36, a source said.

Well congratulations X! I do think that puts to rest any issues with regards to the ACC with the possible exception of will you guys have additions.

What it does do, however, is to refocus all attention on the Big 12 as it will put the emphasis on "if" the Big 12 doesn't survive what happens to its prizes. And with regard to the OP of this thread I think it is rather obvious.

The leverage to finish out realignment now rests with Texas and Oklahoma. If the PAC opens up to either ESPN or FOX, or both it could get interesting yet.

If the Big 12 implodes I expect Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Iowa State, and Kansas to find homes. I think it possible that T.C.U. finds a home depending on how things break. Kansas State and Baylor are iffy.

There are still a variety of permutations that could occur depending upon a number of factors. I do think the most talked about is more likely, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC. I like Kansas's chances with the Big 10. If the PAC does play ball Texas could take it's in state slate to the PAC, or perhaps drop Baylor and take KState. W.V.U. could still find its way into the ACC. We'll see.

What I seriously doubt happens is Big 12 expansion with G5 schools.

If I were a Cincinnati or Houston, or any other school waiting in the wings for the Big XII, I would be very nervous about joining a conference which may not be around in 5-10 years. They need a network to survive, and there is Texas and the LHN. Unless Texas caves in, it looks like a dim future to me. They have the cards to play and can just go Indy if needed. They would easily fill a schedule with good teams. Any new member might find themselves in a new Big XII that is no better than their existing conferences.

(07-14-2016 03:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Just listened to a short conversation on the Finebaum show.

George Schroeder from USA Today was on. With SEC Media Days occurring, there are plenty of figures in town to talk sports.

Anyway, they discussed Big 12 expansion for a bit. Schroeder, who is based in Oklahoma, thought the league would be looking for Power 5 additions when their GOR expires. If no one is available though then schools like OU would be moving in all likelihood.

Finebaum asked if OU might end up in the SEC. Schroeder said he thought so and that OSU would be the most likely partner. He said it may have to be that way due to political pressure in the state of OK.

I thought that was all very interesting.

This clearly isn't going to be happening now. Probably for the best anyways since it would dilute the payouts by doubling up in a small populated state.

(07-19-2016 06:58 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 03:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Just listened to a short conversation on the Finebaum show.

George Schroeder from USA Today was on. With SEC Media Days occurring, there are plenty of figures in town to talk sports.

Anyway, they discussed Big 12 expansion for a bit. Schroeder, who is based in Oklahoma, thought the league would be looking for Power 5 additions when their GOR expires. If no one is available though then schools like OU would be moving in all likelihood.

Finebaum asked if OU might end up in the SEC. Schroeder said he thought so and that OSU would be the most likely partner. He said it may have to be that way due to political pressure in the state of OK.

I thought that was all very interesting.

This clearly isn't going to be happening now. Probably for the best anyways since it would dilute the payouts by doubling up in a small populated state.

Too early to tell.

What we need to look for is whether or not they sign a GOR extension. If not then the key members will obviously be moving at the end of the current contract.

Even then, there will still be a question of whether or not they move with partners. Political pressure will still be extant. The reason is that if the key members leave then the overall value of the league will take a hit. The Big 12 may remain a Power conference for all practical purposes, but their revenue and exposure opportunities will not be the same. How tolerant will certain leaders be of that? Again, too early to tell.

(07-19-2016 10:46 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:58 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 03:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Just listened to a short conversation on the Finebaum show.

George Schroeder from USA Today was on. With SEC Media Days occurring, there are plenty of figures in town to talk sports.

Anyway, they discussed Big 12 expansion for a bit. Schroeder, who is based in Oklahoma, thought the league would be looking for Power 5 additions when their GOR expires. If no one is available though then schools like OU would be moving in all likelihood.

Finebaum asked if OU might end up in the SEC. Schroeder said he thought so and that OSU would be the most likely partner. He said it may have to be that way due to political pressure in the state of OK.

I thought that was all very interesting.

This clearly isn't going to be happening now. Probably for the best anyways since it would dilute the payouts by doubling up in a small populated state.

Too early to tell.

What we need to look for is whether or not they sign a GOR extension. If not then the key members will obviously be moving at the end of the current contract.

Even then, there will still be a question of whether or not they move with partners. Political pressure will still be extant. The reason is that if the key members leave then the overall value of the league will take a hit. The Big 12 may remain a Power conference for all practical purposes, but their revenue and exposure opportunities will not be the same. How tolerant will certain leaders be of that? Again, too early to tell.

It's not over til it's over. And if they do stay put and expand with lesser brands that's not our problem, but it could be fortuitous for E.C.U. in the long run.