Found our hammer thrower's tribute to the Tribe's feathers to be pretty solid.



Then I saw this on a Portuguese player:


Future rookie hazing haircut?

Harvard to ditch references to Puritans?
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39559232

So with this, hypothetically we could get one of these six to sanction our use, the way other schools do with various tribes. I guess that might require changing the mascot to that actual tribe...

http://www.alexandrianews.org/2017/05/ka...l-passage/

Will this mean casinos in Va.?

The Indians/Feathers ship sailed long ago. They're not coming back and, frankly, so many years have past since the feathers many W&M classes have come and gone those grads have never heard of the feathers...they know only Tribe and like it.

(05-19-2017 10:53 AM)hktribefan Wrote:  So with this, hypothetically we could get one of these six to sanction our use, the way other schools do with various tribes. I guess that might require changing the mascot to that actual tribe...

http://www.alexandrianews.org/2017/05/ka...l-passage/

Regardless of how this impacts W&M getting its feathers back, I'm glad to see people working to get federal recognition for VA tribes. It's long overdue

So Newton's third law, right?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27565...=editorial

Cleveland Indians will nix their mascot in 2019.

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(01-29-2018 02:45 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Cleveland Indians will nix their mascot in 2019.

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Not totally, as they will continue to sell gear with that logo in the stadium. But yeah, no more chief caricature logo on any uniforms after one more season.

(01-29-2018 06:11 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 02:45 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Cleveland Indians will nix their mascot in 2019.

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Not totally, as they will continue to sell gear with that logo in the stadium. But yeah, no more chief caricature logo on any uniforms after one more season.

Okay. You're correct.

This is a club trying to sit on the fence and that can't last. The logo is "inappropriate to wear on the field" but okay to sell in stores?

**** or get off the pot.

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I have to laugh every time I go to a Tribe game and some youngster asked me where I got my shirt with a feather logo.

I have shirts I bought the year after I graduated that I can still wear, so I just say if you are old as dirt like me, all your gear has feathers.

(01-29-2018 06:17 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 06:11 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 02:45 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Cleveland Indians will nix their mascot in 2019.

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Not totally, as they will continue to sell gear with that logo in the stadium. But yeah, no more chief caricature logo on any uniforms after one more season.

Okay. You're correct.

This is a club trying to sit on the fence and that can't last. The logo is "inappropriate to wear on the field" but okay to sell in stores?

**** or get off the pot.

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There's a good article about that here: http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/01/29/the-...moral-one/

Basically, because of the way this is being done it indicates that this is all business. As you said, if they actually cared about whether it's a racist mascot then they'd stop selling it altogether. Rumors (denied by MLB) are that Cleveland had to do this in order to get the All-Star Game in 2019 or 2020, whenever it's scheduled to be there.

Gotta keep that trademark!

Yeah, if they don't sell some of those caps and shirts, to keep the Trademark, some terrible organization would grab the trademark rights for themselves and do awful things with it.

Right...

(05-19-2017 10:53 AM)hktribefan Wrote:  So with this, hypothetically we could get one of these six to sanction our use, the way other schools do with various tribes. I guess that might require changing the mascot to that actual tribe...

http://www.alexandrianews.org/2017/05/ka...l-passage/

Looks like Trump signed off on it

http://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2018/will...=hootsuite

(05-19-2017 10:53 AM)hktribefan Wrote:  So with this, hypothetically we could get one of these six to sanction our use, the way other schools do with various tribes. I guess that might require changing the mascot to that actual tribe...

http://www.alexandrianews.org/2017/05/ka...l-passage/

Yeah, but Tsenacommacah is a mouthful...

I wonder if federal recognition will make it easier for W&M to give scholarships to the local tribes. It would make a lot of sense given our history, especially with the Chickahominy and Nansemond as cited in the article.

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(01-30-2018 11:02 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  I wonder if federal recognition will make it easier for W&M to give scholarships to the local tribes. It would make a lot of sense given our history, especially with the Chickahominy and Nansemond as cited in the article.

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I believe FSU and Seminole Nation have an arrangement like that. Not sure if that arrangement is extended to other Floridian Tribes, too.

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(01-30-2018 09:44 AM)billymac Wrote:  Yeah, if they don't sell some of those caps and shirts, to keep the Trademark, some terrible organization would grab the trademark rights for themselves and do awful things with it.

Right...

North Dakota is doing something similar with the Fighting Sioux logo.

https://www.bkstr.com/northdakotastore/s...collection

It honestly does make sense to do from the school's/team's prespective

The William and Mary Fightin' Chickahominy's?!