(07-08-2016 12:15 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, a choke hold is not a clean takedown. You can kill someone very quickly like that.

He shouldn't have resisted arrest then. That's a real good way to not possibly die.

^ just don't be shocked when another Dallas happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse.

I'm sure the next time a cop is killed at a routine traffic stop you'll say "just don't be shocked when another New Orleans happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse."

HA! Thats a good one.

(07-08-2016 12:15 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, a choke hold is not a clean takedown. You can kill someone very quickly like that.

He shouldn't have resisted arrest then. That's a real good way to not possibly die.

^ just don't be shocked when another Dallas happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse.

I'm sure the next time a cop is killed at a routine traffic stop you'll say "just don't be shocked when another New Orleans happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse."

Dallas was not a routine traffic stop...

(07-08-2016 12:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:15 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, a choke hold is not a clean takedown. You can kill someone very quickly like that.

He shouldn't have resisted arrest then. That's a real good way to not possibly die.

^ just don't be shocked when another Dallas happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse.

I'm sure the next time a cop is killed at a routine traffic stop you'll say "just don't be shocked when another New Orleans happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse."

HA! Thats a good one.

pathetic, laughing at the idea of police death...

(07-08-2016 12:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 11:42 AM)muffinman Wrote:  Why are blacks the only ones protesting these deaths? Why do they act like it only happens to them?

Why are whites, latinos, asians, native americans, etc. not protesting? They get killed by cops too.

Why does everything single thing have to devolve into a racial us vs them mentality?

Clay Travis....internet troll.....actually wrote a decent article yesterday about how this issue is actually an American issue and not a racial one and the solution will come only when its not treated as a racial issue.

He got lambasted by, primarily, young white people for his "racist" article.

I'd disagree with him

It is a racial issue, in the shallow sense. At its core its a crisis of culture and socio-economic status.

White trash commit crime and victimize folks at a level that places them on roughly the same playing field. However, there is a cultural difference between white trash and hood rats. Those cultural differences are glaringly obvious.

It isn't a racial issue in the sense that black people and their biological makeup is the issue. It is a crisis of culture and status.

Poor people with a degrading culture are lashing out. They just so happen to be almost exclusively black but the race is damn near merely a coincidence.

(07-08-2016 11:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 11:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 10:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 10:57 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Obama's Legacy

just stubbed my toe...THANKS OBAMA!!!

y'all blame that man for everything.

Obama's behavior says much, from interfering in a local police matter
in Cambridge Ma., to going to Ferguson. Michael Brown attacked assaulted Wilson, tried to take his gun. Both Obama and Holder were on Brown's side.

Dallas is the push back from Ferguson, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, etc...it's sad it's coming to this.

Ferguson - The police officer acted appropriately.
Baltimore - The police officers shouldn't have even been charged, and acted appropriately.

So, how is there push back from those? Could it possibly be that Obama made inflammatory remarks siding with the victims in BOTH cases before the facts came out? Hmmmm....

(07-08-2016 12:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:15 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, a choke hold is not a clean takedown. You can kill someone very quickly like that.

He shouldn't have resisted arrest then. That's a real good way to not possibly die.

^ just don't be shocked when another Dallas happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse.

I'm sure the next time a cop is killed at a routine traffic stop you'll say "just don't be shocked when another New Orleans happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse."

Dallas was not a routine traffic stop...

(07-08-2016 11:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Dallas is the push back from Ferguson, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, etc...it's sad it's coming to this.

So by that argument, we should be out on the streets shooting and killing every Muslim? I mean Fort Hood, San Bernadino, Morganton, Chattanooga, Orlando, Moore Oklahoma, west orange NJ, Boston...

You realize how stupid that sounds UofM, especially consider two of the three you listed were found to be lies perpetrated by these type of groups and the alphabet soup media?

Again, the cop was (from everything we've seen) in the wrong in Minnesota.
The one in New York (it was NYC right?) with the choke out .. was in the wrong.

Baton Rouge? We don't know enough yet.

(07-08-2016 12:20 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 11:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Dallas is the push back from Ferguson, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, etc...it's sad it's coming to this.

So by that argument, we should be out on the streets shooting and killing every Muslim? I mean Fort Hood, San Bernadino, Morganton, Chattanooga, Orlando, Moore Oklahoma, west orange NJ, Boston...

You realize how stupid that sounds UofM??

It'll probably happen...some ignorant person with a gun or explosive will head to a mosque...wouldn't shock me with the xenophobic campaign Trump is running.

Despite the FACT that you have a less than one-hundredth of a percent chance of being shot when encountered by the police...
BTW, that number completely ignores the times in which it is justified.

What is the solution to the "problem"? Seriously, a real solution, not blame, not memes, not deflection... what is the proposed solution?

I want a real answer from some of the liberals here.

"probably"? So that's what is the basis of a 'revolution'... because you imagine someone doing something crazy?

Are there ignorant people out there who probably want to do that? I believe there are.. have they yet? Not that I'm aware of...

(07-08-2016 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:15 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 12:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  He shouldn't have resisted arrest then. That's a real good way to not possibly die.

^ just don't be shocked when another Dallas happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse.

I'm sure the next time a cop is killed at a routine traffic stop you'll say "just don't be shocked when another New Orleans happens...until there are solutions, the problem(s) will only get worse."

HA! Thats a good one.

pathetic, laughing at the idea of police death...

sure that's exactly what I'm doing.

HA! Thats a good one.
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Dude thats not even funny. We shouldnt be laughing at the thought of another person being gunned down. This is going to happen again. What Im asking everyone on this forum to do their part in making sure it isnt someone they know.

(07-08-2016 12:31 PM)Fitbud Wrote:   HA! Thats a good one.

Dude thats not even funny. We shouldnt be laughing at the thought of another person being gunned down. This is going to happen again. What Im asking everyone on this forum to do their part in making sure it isnt someone they know.
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That's exactly what I'm not doing.

(07-08-2016 12:31 PM)Fitbud Wrote:   HA! Thats a good one.

Dude thats not even funny. We shouldnt be laughing at the thought of another person being gunned down. This is going to happen again. What Im asking everyone on this forum to do their part in making sure it isnt someone they know.
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Really though, Why should folks get up in a rage when someone gets shot by a policeman a thousand miles away ? I agree that the Minnesota one was way off the charts and was tragic. Baton Rouge, Not so much. Guy should not have gotten in a fight with Them in the first place and was every bit as much to blame for his own death. But Those are local issues. We are Not like the Hell's Angels where if You take out 1 member, you will get the Entire organization after You.

That's exactly what I'm not doing.
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Im simply asking you to know the difference between expecting what might happen next and glorifying what happens next. Just because I believe that we will see more of this kind of behavior doesnt mean that I want for it to happen or that I would celebrate something like this happening.

You went off the handle last night when you went down that road. Dont go down that road again.

(07-08-2016 12:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's exactly what I'm not doing.

Im simply asking you to know the difference between expecting what might happen next and glorifying what happens next. Just because I believe that we will see more of this kind of behavior doesnt mean that I want for it to happen or that I would celebrate something like this happening.

You went off the handle last night when you went down that road. Dont go down that road again.
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I disagree. I saw nothing in my posts last night, save for comments directed towards dawg, that indicated I "flew off the handle".

The guy in Baton Rouge was a felon who had possession of a firearm. If that gun was manufactured in a different state, (almost always the case), that would be a federal offense, and he's looking at an automatic 10 years just for that. (Actually, it could be 15 due to his previous felony convictions.

There was a reason he was not going to comply and get arrested. He was going to federal pound him in the ass prison. For a long time.

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(07-08-2016 12:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's exactly what I'm not doing.

Im simply asking you to know the difference between expecting what might happen next and glorifying what happens next. Just because I believe that we will see more of this kind of behavior doesnt mean that I want for it to happen or that I would celebrate something like this happening.

You went off the handle last night when you went down that road. Dont go down that road again.

Fit this started when I had enough of UoM's "well what do you expect" which is a way of tacitly justifying what happened in Dallas. People look at the shooting which happened here and ask "how could that cop have killed him"

Well about 20 minutes from where the shooting happened a cop was shot and killed Patrick during a July 30, 2014, traffic stop.





My point was that this "what did you expect" crap coming from UoM is no different than saying "Well with cops getting shot at traffic stops what else do you expect"

If you embrace one you have to embrace both...

You went off the handle last night when you went down that road. Dont go down that road again.
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I disagree. I saw nothing in my posts last night, save for comments directed towards dawg, that indicated I "flew off the handle".
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Forgive me if I got you mixed up with someone else. Last night someone said that someone else must be glad that these cops were dead. It was a truly horrible post.

when I had enough of UoM's "well what do you expect"

I see the truth angers you...I had nothing to do with it, but the truth of the situation upsets you, and it should.

It's not right, and it's sad...but Dallas is the push back from Ferguson, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, South Carolina, etc.