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I-880 has been blocked by protesters in Oakland. No matter how much rage you have about some things, no matter what the injustice is, there are better ways to gaiin attention for a cause than this. Why don't they block the path to city hall for the mayor and critical leaders of the city or slam their city hall with calls to the point they can't conduct business? There could be an ambulance with a critically ill patient that can't get through. I'm sure there are some people who don't have AC in their cars at this time of year, which is awful and only pisses them off more.

It's stupid, really stupid if you ask me, even as an African-American. Call me an Uncle Tom if you want too if you're black and reading ths.

I agree 100 percent. I see no reason to block a freeway.

I find it impossible to see how anyone can support BLM. there have been way too many cases of BLM groups having their meetings closed to whites. way too many cases where they only look to disrupt rather than be part of the solution. sure there are a number of legitimate issues that need to be addressed and solved but at this point I don't see how BLM has any credibility towards being a contributor to resolving those issues.

(07-08-2016 02:08 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I find it impossible to see how anyone can support BLM. there have been way too many cases of BLM groups having their meetings closed to whites. way too many cases where they only look to disrupt rather than be part of the solution. sure there are a number of legitimate issues that need to be addressed and solved but at this point I don't see how BLM has any credibility towards being a contributor to resolving those issues.

Its a sign of the times. Some will peacfully protest and some will demand change through violence.

I support the idea in general (I am AA after all) but not the tactics, certainly nothing like this.

(07-08-2016 02:13 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  I support the idea in general (I am AA after all) but not the tactics, certainly nothing like this.

I personally can only support peaceful protests.

Be weary of those who say they will fight fire with fire.

(07-08-2016 02:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 02:08 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I find it impossible to see how anyone can support BLM. there have been way too many cases of BLM groups having their meetings closed to whites. way too many cases where they only look to disrupt rather than be part of the solution. sure there are a number of legitimate issues that need to be addressed and solved but at this point I don't see how BLM has any credibility towards being a contributor to resolving those issues.

Its a sign of the times. Some will peacfully protest and some will demand change through violence.

it's the problem with social media movements in general. they have no real leadership. no one to curb the crazies, no one to lead the movement in a direction where action can be directed towards accomplishing a set of goals.

They were lighting fireworks on the freeway.

BLM matters more than where you were going.

You're an a-hole who is doing something counter-productive if you block the freeway. I'm an animal rights activist to a degree but you don't see me badgering and harrassing people about it. And as I said, there are other ways of getting your point across just as effective that don't block the road.

(07-08-2016 02:20 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 02:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 02:08 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I find it impossible to see how anyone can support BLM. there have been way too many cases of BLM groups having their meetings closed to whites. way too many cases where they only look to disrupt rather than be part of the solution. sure there are a number of legitimate issues that need to be addressed and solved but at this point I don't see how BLM has any credibility towards being a contributor to resolving those issues.

Its a sign of the times. Some will peacfully protest and some will demand change through violence.

it's the problem with social media movements in general. they have no real leadership. no one to curb the crazies, no one to lead the movement in a direction where action can be directed towards accomplishing a set of goals.

...and no accountability. I agree with you on all points.

(07-08-2016 04:54 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  BLM matters more than where you were going.

BLM matters about as much as that turd I sent down the toilet this morning.

(07-08-2016 08:45 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 04:54 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  BLM matters more than where you were going.

BLM matters about as much as that turd I sent down the toilet this morning.

I drained my arse for the 5th time and bidet'd after 'em all....

If a Tea Party or Pro-Life group ever blocked a freeway, the Minneapolis or Saint Paul police departments would rain down attack dogs and billy clubs like the Great Deluge.

(07-08-2016 02:08 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I find it impossible to see how anyone can support BLM. there have been way too many cases of BLM groups having their meetings closed to whites. way too many cases where they only look to disrupt rather than be part of the solution. sure there are a number of legitimate issues that need to be addressed and solved but at this point I don't see how BLM has any credibility towards being a contributor to resolving those issues.

+3

(07-08-2016 02:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  http://sfist.com/2016/07/07/interstate_8...cked_b.php

I-880 has been blocked by protesters in Oakland. No matter how much rage you have about some things, no matter what the injustice is, there are better ways to gaiin attention for a cause than this. Why don't they block the path to city hall for the mayor and critical leaders of the city or slam their city hall with calls to the point they can't conduct business? There could be an ambulance with a critically ill patient that can't get through. I'm sure there are some people who don't have AC in their cars at this time of year, which is awful and only pisses them off more.

It's stupid, really stupid if you ask me, even as an African-American. Call me an Uncle Tom if you want too if you're black and reading ths.

Yea, I'm a bit put off by their antics. Protesting Bernie? Blocking a LGBT parade? In friggin' Canada? WTF is that supposed to accomplish?

Another problem with BLM is that they aren't super focused on violence against persons of color. Many of their demands have little to do with violence, such as demanding board slots or funding from some organizations. Adding other demands, regardless of merit, dilutes the anti-violence message.

I feel fairly confident in saying that most of you know NOTHING about BLM outside of the name. BLM is NOT an organization its a movement comprised of many different organizations.

(07-08-2016 10:48 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  I feel fairly confident in saying that most of you know NOTHING about BLM outside of the name. BLM is NOT an organization its a movement comprised of many different organizations.

That's fine. Then it is a racist and terrorist MOVEMENT.

It’s funny how cowardly the left is. It is willing to stand up to anyone who is too moral and good to actually abuse them (e.g. Christian bakers, conservative campus speakers etc), yet cowers in the face of real, actual BLM terrorism and Islamic terrorism, both of whom want to actually destroy liberalism.

(07-08-2016 10:48 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  I feel fairly confident in saying that most of you know NOTHING about BLM outside of the name. BLM is NOT an organization its a movement comprised of many different organizations.

Which is a good way to ensure that everyone gets their voices heard. But usually a suboptimal way to force change.

It also can cause the movements to split apart and spend more time fighting each other than the stated goals. In my history of dealing with movements, it usually disintegrates into circular attacks eventually. Usually one faction, and usually the most radical (as they tend to be the most organized), makes demands far outside the mainstream and then accuses those within that movement that don't want to highlight that issue as being sellouts. Then people just get upset and walk away. Maybe BLM will be different.

One can fight marginalization and the extraproportional/asymmetric justice enforcement at the same time. But its hard to do so in practice. I wish them every success.