Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

If FGCU is reaching a tipping point, why is NJIT the last straw? If they wanted to leave, they were at peak marketability after their Sweet Sixteen run. They do have a lot to offer but it feels like they are at their lowest valuation right now. They had their chance to leave and chose to stay.

(06-24-2020 02:54 AM)MercerFan Wrote:  Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

Nobody expected NJIT to stay if given the opportunity to join ANY other conference more regional to them.... nobody, including FGCU is upset about it or didn't see it coming. And I dont believe for a minute that it took the commissioner by surprise either, his whole twitter argument was not saying NJIT was not leaving the ASUN, it was basically saying the Atlantic Sun is not the name of the conference anymore.... he was playing around with whomever because he cant spill the beans until NJIT and NEC does.

As for Bellarmine, it is my understanding that it was a unanimous vote to invite them. That means ALL schools voted yes including FGCU. Would we be a little more upset with them leaving? Sure.

BREAKING: Delaware St is rumored to be looking into leaving the struggling MEAC and join the NEC. The DSU board of trustees held a meeting on Thursday relating to leaving the MEAC. DSU will join a list of several MEAC schools looking into leaving the conference.

Bethune-Cookman just joined the SWAC.
Though they would have fit nicely with the other Florida schools their tiny enrollment and lack of funding won’t be missed. They weren’t on my short list for expansion. Success to them in the SWAC.

1. Howard . . . . . . . . 9,400 . . . $693M
2. West Florida . . . . 12,800 . . . $79M
3. North Georgia . . . 19,700 . . . $55M
4. Nova S’eastern . . 20,400 . . . $170M
5. UA-Huntsville . . . . 9,700 . . . $79M
6. NCCU . . . . . . . . 8,200 . . . .$54M

I say if we manage to get Howard, we should go after Norfolk State as well. NSU has baseball, Howard dont.

Then round it out with West Florida.
That gives the ASUN 5 football schools, if any other ASUN school decides to start football or Stetson adds scholarships you can look to the ASUN sponsoring football.

12 school ASUN

Howard
Norfolk State
Liberty
Bellarmine
Lipscomb
North Alabama
KSU
West Florida
North Florida
JU
Stetson
FGCU

I dont mind that....

Big South football

Monmouth
RMU
Howard
Norfolk State
Hampton
Campbell
NCA&T
Gardner Webb
Charleston Southern
KSU
UNA

At this point, the ASUN, Big South, and any northern conferences who might flirt with taking a Delmarva school should just sit and wait for the phone to ring.

The 8 MEAC schools ought to be all looking for exit strategies right now. If someone calls that the ASUN likes they should grab them. They could easily take 3 of the stronger, geographically friendly ones.

Norfolk St, NC Central, and SC St would prefer the Big South but at 12 members, there’s no chance that they take them.

Howard seems destined for a Northern conference.

(06-25-2020 07:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Howard seems destined for a Northern conference.

Destined is a very strong word.

They dont have great facilities. But that can change.

I dont see any northern conference invite, if they want them, why haven't they already been invited?

They can join the ASUN with Norfolk State, and play football in the Big South, keeping it with Hampton and NCA&T or whoever else the Big South may take.

The ASUN should then add West Florida to round out the conference. DC ain't out of the scope of the ASUN footprint.

Then the ASUN has schools in Atlanta, Louisville, Jacksonville, Shoals/Huntsville area, Nashville, Virginia, D.C., Mobile/Pensacola, Middle and South Florida markets... not bad.

(06-24-2020 06:50 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 02:54 AM)MercerFan Wrote:  Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

Nobody expected NJIT to stay if given the opportunity to join ANY other conference more regional to them.... nobody, including FGCU is upset about it or didn't see it coming. And I dont believe for a minute that it took the commissioner by surprise either, his whole twitter argument was not saying NJIT was not leaving the ASUN, it was basically saying the Atlantic Sun is not the name of the conference anymore.... he was playing around with whomever because he cant spill the beans until NJIT and NEC does.

As for Bellarmine, it is my understanding that it was a unanimous vote to invite them. That means ALL schools voted yes including FGCU. Would we be a little more upset with them leaving? Sure.

Student athlete at NJIT here. We actually found out we’d be going to America East a week before it was announced but coaches had told us this was likely happening back in May with Covid wreaking havoc on scheduling. There really wasn’t actually any plan to leave the ASUN before this as we all saw going to Florida as a differentiator from other northeast teams that would help in recruiting being able to escape the cold. Even among student athletes now, while we understand this decision is ultimately better for the school, are upset to be leaving the ASUN as we were starting to find our groove. When the new ASUN-UAC plan was presented, our AD was actually very excited about the prospect about being in a more competitive and well regarded conference. Of course, America East is a geographical home that makes sense but we certainly were hoping to make the ASUN our home for longer by getting another northern school in. As with scheduling for the fall, there have been whispers that NJIT will be playing a lot of ASUN schools OOC to help with scheduling because we are moving so late.

(06-26-2020 02:20 AM)dirtyjersey Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 06:50 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 02:54 AM)MercerFan Wrote:  Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

Nobody expected NJIT to stay if given the opportunity to join ANY other conference more regional to them.... nobody, including FGCU is upset about it or didn't see it coming. And I dont believe for a minute that it took the commissioner by surprise either, his whole twitter argument was not saying NJIT was not leaving the ASUN, it was basically saying the Atlantic Sun is not the name of the conference anymore.... he was playing around with whomever because he cant spill the beans until NJIT and NEC does.

As for Bellarmine, it is my understanding that it was a unanimous vote to invite them. That means ALL schools voted yes including FGCU. Would we be a little more upset with them leaving? Sure.

Student athlete at NJIT here. We actually found out we’d be going to America East a week before it was announced but coaches had told us this was likely happening back in May with Covid wreaking havoc on scheduling. There really wasn’t actually any plan to leave the ASUN before this as we all saw going to Florida as a differentiator from other northeast teams that would help in recruiting being able to escape the cold. Even among student athletes now, while we understand this decision is ultimately better for the school, are upset to be leaving the ASUN as we were starting to find our groove. When the new ASUN-UAC plan was presented, our AD was actually very excited about the prospect about being in a more competitive and well regarded conference. Of course, America East is a geographical home that makes sense but we certainly were hoping to make the ASUN our home for longer by getting another northern school in. As with scheduling for the fall, there have been whispers that NJIT will be playing a lot of ASUN schools OOC to help with scheduling because we are moving so late.

Good post.... what sport?

(06-26-2020 08:19 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 02:20 AM)dirtyjersey Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 06:50 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 02:54 AM)MercerFan Wrote:  Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

Nobody expected NJIT to stay if given the opportunity to join ANY other conference more regional to them.... nobody, including FGCU is upset about it or didn't see it coming. And I dont believe for a minute that it took the commissioner by surprise either, his whole twitter argument was not saying NJIT was not leaving the ASUN, it was basically saying the Atlantic Sun is not the name of the conference anymore.... he was playing around with whomever because he cant spill the beans until NJIT and NEC does.

As for Bellarmine, it is my understanding that it was a unanimous vote to invite them. That means ALL schools voted yes including FGCU. Would we be a little more upset with them leaving? Sure.

Student athlete at NJIT here. We actually found out we’d be going to America East a week before it was announced but coaches had told us this was likely happening back in May with Covid wreaking havoc on scheduling. There really wasn’t actually any plan to leave the ASUN before this as we all saw going to Florida as a differentiator from other northeast teams that would help in recruiting being able to escape the cold. Even among student athletes now, while we understand this decision is ultimately better for the school, are upset to be leaving the ASUN as we were starting to find our groove. When the new ASUN-UAC plan was presented, our AD was actually very excited about the prospect about being in a more competitive and well regarded conference. Of course, America East is a geographical home that makes sense but we certainly were hoping to make the ASUN our home for longer by getting another northern school in. As with scheduling for the fall, there have been whispers that NJIT will be playing a lot of ASUN schools OOC to help with scheduling because we are moving so late.

Good post.... what sport?

Thanks. Men’s soccer.

(06-26-2020 12:00 PM)dirtyjersey Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 08:19 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 02:20 AM)dirtyjersey Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 06:50 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 02:54 AM)MercerFan Wrote:  Here's the perfect article. It's about FGCU being pissed that NKU left the ASUN in the middle of the night with no notice: https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/.../27125945/

Read the quotes from FGCU in that article. So much of it applies today in terms to NJIT abruptly exiting. For example: Rumors were circulating over the last week or two. That was very disappointing as well. Something like this you would assume would start through our commissioner and the presidents' council. It's not like we're in competitive bidding. It would have allowed our institutions to talk to them and say, 'Maybe can you just wait a year?' Just like the likes of Mercer and ETSU did.

Now FGCU has got to be boiling over. Not only because of NJIT, but because they realize that Bellarmine is likely following the NKU script. You can feel FGCU's passion to make the ASUN great in those quotes. They're trying their best and they keep taking a beating as team after team leaves. People can only take so many hits before they say enough is enough. FGCU has a lot to offer, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're marketing themselves to the Big South and SoCon.

Nobody expected NJIT to stay if given the opportunity to join ANY other conference more regional to them.... nobody, including FGCU is upset about it or didn't see it coming. And I dont believe for a minute that it took the commissioner by surprise either, his whole twitter argument was not saying NJIT was not leaving the ASUN, it was basically saying the Atlantic Sun is not the name of the conference anymore.... he was playing around with whomever because he cant spill the beans until NJIT and NEC does.

As for Bellarmine, it is my understanding that it was a unanimous vote to invite them. That means ALL schools voted yes including FGCU. Would we be a little more upset with them leaving? Sure.

Student athlete at NJIT here. We actually found out we’d be going to America East a week before it was announced but coaches had told us this was likely happening back in May with Covid wreaking havoc on scheduling. There really wasn’t actually any plan to leave the ASUN before this as we all saw going to Florida as a differentiator from other northeast teams that would help in recruiting being able to escape the cold. Even among student athletes now, while we understand this decision is ultimately better for the school, are upset to be leaving the ASUN as we were starting to find our groove. When the new ASUN-UAC plan was presented, our AD was actually very excited about the prospect about being in a more competitive and well regarded conference. Of course, America East is a geographical home that makes sense but we certainly were hoping to make the ASUN our home for longer by getting another northern school in. As with scheduling for the fall, there have been whispers that NJIT will be playing a lot of ASUN schools OOC to help with scheduling because we are moving so late.

Good post.... what sport?

Thanks. Men’s soccer.

ASUN commissioner obviously was aware of NJIT’s exit then and the whole twitter show was just to say “NJIT leaving ATLANTIC SUN is false...because they’re actually leaving ASUN hahahaha”.

Btw, you might enjoy the realignment board if you haven’t seen it yet.
https://csnbbs.com/forum-637.html

If the ASUN is able to start football, I believe that the schools that the ASUN will approach will be within an 250 miles radius of Chattanooga Tennessee.

(06-30-2020 01:03 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  If the ASUN is able to start football, I believe that the schools that the ASUN will approach will be within an 250 miles radius of Chattanooga Tennessee.

Ding Ding Ding

This would be funny if I didn't know you guys are serious.

I think this is the best case scenaio.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

(07-03-2020 09:39 AM)army56mike Wrote:  I think this is the best case scenaio.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

I dont know what will happen...

But I do know the ASUN (at least the commissioner) wants football in the conference.

He sounded like he wanted to work with the MEAC in preserving and rebounding the MEAC. How they go about it is unclear.

We know the MEAC needs 2 more football schools so why not offer Monmouth and RMU football only affiliations? That would make the ASUN Big South football agreement more manageable for the ASUN side. It's clear the ASUN wants to add schools, he even gave boundaries this time instead of an all over the map approach. And being that he wants to help the MEAC, he would likely not invite a MEAC or HBCU school into the ASUN.

(07-03-2020 02:07 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(07-03-2020 09:39 AM)army56mike Wrote:  I think this is the best case scenaio.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

I dont know what will happen...

But I do know the ASUN (at least the commissioner) wants football in the conference.

He sounded like he wanted to work with the MEAC in preserving and rebounding the MEAC. How they go about it is unclear.

We know the MEAC needs 2 more football schools so why not offer Monmouth and RMU football only affiliations? That would make the ASUN Big South football agreement more manageable for the ASUN side. It's clear the ASUN wants to add schools, he even gave boundaries this time instead of an all over the map approach. And being that he wants to help the MEAC, he would likely not invite a MEAC or HBCU school into the ASUN.

Seems to me if he wanted to help the MEAC, he'd offer up UNA and KSU rather than Monmouth and RMU.

(07-03-2020 03:29 PM)The Cats Wrote:  

(07-03-2020 02:07 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(07-03-2020 09:39 AM)army56mike Wrote:  I think this is the best case scenaio.

ASUN . . . . . . . . . . . Big South (Football)
Howard . . . . . . . . . . Howard
Bellarmine . . . . . . . . Hampton
Lipscomb . . . . . . . . . N.C. A&T
Liberty . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Morris
Norfolk St. . . . . . . . . Norfolk St.
North Alabama . . . . . North Alabama
UA-Huntsville . . . . . . Monmouth
North Georgia . . . . . . Charleston So.
Kennesaw St. . . . . . . Kennesaw St
NCCU . . . . . . . . . . . . NCCU
West Florida . . . . . . . West Florida
North Florida . . . . . . . Campbell
Jacksonville . . . . . . . . Gardner Webb
Stetson
FGCU
Nova Southeastern

I dont know what will happen...

But I do know the ASUN (at least the commissioner) wants football in the conference.

He sounded like he wanted to work with the MEAC in preserving and rebounding the MEAC. How they go about it is unclear.

We know the MEAC needs 2 more football schools so why not offer Monmouth and RMU football only affiliations? That would make the ASUN Big South football agreement more manageable for the ASUN side. It's clear the ASUN wants to add schools, he even gave boundaries this time instead of an all over the map approach. And being that he wants to help the MEAC, he would likely not invite a MEAC or HBCU school into the ASUN.

Seems to me if he wanted to help the MEAC, he'd offer up UNA and KSU rather than Monmouth and RMU.

Maybe the MEAC should approach schools in the SoCon.

Why does the ASUN Commissioner want football schools?

To keep Kennesaw State and North Alabama satisfy. To keep North Alabama satisfy it would take Schools that are more closely together that will build rivals and cut down on the travel cost not only for football but all sports. Not add on an additional 300 or more miles.

For both Kennesaw State and North Alabama that would be schools within 250 miles radius of Chattanooga Tennessee.

Also with this virus that is going around a school can control who is on the team that travels by bus, but by going commercial air can’t control who is on that plane.

Most Mid- Major teams aren’t like Liberty and can afford to fly nationwide.