(06-17-2016 08:41 AM)Paul M Wrote:  "Who gives a flip if it's been debunked or not?"

I'd say the poster who rushed to say it has been debunked gave something of a flip.

The "Remain" camp is extremely desperate right now.

Condolences and prayers to the murdered man of course. May the Lord be with his family.

(06-17-2016 08:48 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 08:41 AM)Paul M Wrote:  "Who gives a flip if it's been debunked or not?"

I'd say the poster who rushed to say it has been debunked gave something of a flip.

The op was informed of the debunking then said HE didn't give a flip about the truth. Follow.

(06-17-2016 08:48 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 08:41 AM)Paul M Wrote:  "Who gives a flip if it's been debunked or not?"

I'd say the poster who rushed to say it has been debunked gave something of a flip.

Not exactly "a flip" just mentioning something I read. that the shop owner who was quoted in the stories said he did not hear "britain first".

(06-16-2016 05:28 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 05:21 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  You'd be wrong then. News.google.com is my home page and that was the first link it had when I posted the thread about the story. Sorry for using BBC as a source since they're not reputable at all.

And honestly, I'm not even sure what yelling Put Britain First would even mean in this context. I suppose it may have something to do about them leaving the European Union but I haven't followed that story too closely so I'm not sure.

There is a group named "Britain First" which sits on the right of the Birttish spectrum and backs Brexit. They might be an extreme right wing group, I honestly don't know.

From what i've gathered they would be considered extremely far right even by our standards.

(06-17-2016 07:17 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  News organization still reporting killer said 'put Britain first.'

Looks like they'd be reporting otherwise by now if it were the case. Been plenty of time.

There are quite a few conflicting stories going around.

The common threads are:

1 - He was mentally ill
2 - Not a very political guy

everything else will shake out but *if* he was a brexit supporter he really hurt his cause.

So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

(06-17-2016 10:14 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

You guys are both idiots. Britain First does not hold a single political office and is considered to be a fascist, nationalist, and militaristic group that deals in Christian fundamentalism and wants to start a religious war in the UK.

(06-17-2016 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:14 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

You guys are both idiots. Britain First does not hold a single political office and is considered to be a fascist, nationalist, and militaristic group that deals in Christian fundamentalism and wants to start a religious war in the UK.

It has been about 1 hour since made this post violation fix it.

(06-17-2016 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:14 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

You guys are both idiots. Britain First does not hold a single political office and is considered to be a fascist, nationalist, and militaristic group that deals in Christian fundamentalism and wants to start a religious war in the UK.

(06-17-2016 09:41 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  The "Remain" camp is extremely desperate right now.

Condolences and prayers to the murdered man of course. May the Lord be with his family.

The politician killed was a woman. Young mom of two kids. But the sentiment is still valid.

Jo Cox 'killer' DID shout 'Britain first' as he shot the MP, insists Clarke Rothwell | Daily Mail Online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...death.html Wrote:Eyewitness Clarke Rothwell, 42, who was working near to the murder scene, said the man - named locally as 52-year-old 'loner' and handyman Tommy Mair - shouted 'Britain first' as he launched the attack on the mother-of-two, which occurred at around 1pm. 
...
Another witness, Graeme Howard, 38, told the Guardian that he had also heard the attacker shout 'Britain first' before the shooting and during the arrest.

'I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,' said Mr Howard, who lives close to the scene. 'There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up.

'He was shouting "Britain first" when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.'

(06-17-2016 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:14 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

You guys are both idiots. Britain First does not hold a single political office and is considered to be a fascist, nationalist, and militaristic group that deals in Christian fundamentalism and wants to start a religious war in the UK.

You know I'm game.

(06-17-2016 01:14 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:14 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:12 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  So it's considered "extremely far right" for British people to want their politicians to put Britain first? I'm having a tough time keeping up with the left. As they spiral down the slippery slope to crazyville,

Like I said, the "Remain" campaign is desperate. They have absolutely no basis on which a "remain" vote has been, or will be, good for Great Britain.

A vote for "Leave" is one step away from the cuckoldry that has crept into that country.

You guys are both idiots. Britain First does not hold a single political office and is considered to be a fascist, nationalist, and militaristic group that deals in Christian fundamentalism and wants to start a religious war in the UK.

I love how you consider straight up facts to be stupid.

(06-16-2016 03:26 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:17 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36550304

I think this is a form of terror that we'll see more and more of throughout the world sadly. Supposedly the man who killed MP Jo Cox yelled at her 'Put Britain First' several times before shooting and stabbing her in a vicious attack.

That's been debunked... The person who has been cited as hearing that has said he heard no such thing.

debunked by who?

(06-18-2016 09:20 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:26 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:17 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36550304

I think this is a form of terror that we'll see more and more of throughout the world sadly. Supposedly the man who killed MP Jo Cox yelled at her 'Put Britain First' several times before shooting and stabbing her in a vicious attack.

That's been debunked... The person who has been cited as hearing that has said he heard no such thing.

debunked by who?

The original person quoted as saying it when asked said he never heard it. Since, others have claimed they heard it.

(06-18-2016 09:31 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-18-2016 09:20 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:26 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:17 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36550304

I think this is a form of terror that we'll see more and more of throughout the world sadly. Supposedly the man who killed MP Jo Cox yelled at her 'Put Britain First' several times before shooting and stabbing her in a vicious attack.

That's been debunked... The person who has been cited as hearing that has said he heard no such thing.

debunked by who?

The original person quoted as saying it when asked said he never heard it. Since, others have claimed they heard it.

Thanks for responding.

When he appeared in court today, the murderer said his name was 'Death to Traitors' when asked what his name was.

apparently, and quite sadly, nationalized healthcare can't keep the whackos off the streets after all.