Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

(06-12-2016 10:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 08:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This is straightwashing. They cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge us when we get murdered by the truckload.

And the SJW's cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge that the same ideology which pitches homosexuals off roofs in the middle east did this in Florida.

I'm very sorry, Tom, that someone singled out a gay club and murdered 50 people. As I told my kids today even if we disagree with how someone lives we are all sinners and they deserve all the safety we deserve.

Oh, it was radical RELIGION that was the gasoline. In this case radical Islam. But Islam has no monopoly on hatred of LGBT persons. In other cases, radical Christians did the killing.

And a system that makes it easier to get a license to own an assault rife than a driver's license was the match.

And again, you are SO full of schit, as usual.

I heard probably a dozen + interviews with guys (and maybe a gal or two, very confusing sometimes) and what did they ALL say?

Universally? Across all media, local, radio, sports, Fauxnews, mslsd, clintoon news network and wherever else?

We prayed. I prayed. I prayed I'd get me and my best friend out of there. I took my partner to the hospital and have been praying ever since. I got out of there through a hole in a fence, but know many did not, I've been praying for them since, but know many died, may God bless them. Many, many others.

Do you deny that? "On Latino night" or whatever it was billed as? Why would a "Christian" radical attack this place? You got an example? Cause you can't really point to anything near this, unless you claim VaTech was a christian gone mad. Errrr, no.

You can deny the obvious, that's fine. But the sooner you all realize that the Christian community would probably be your best resource for fixing/solving a whole HOST of the issues that afflict ya'll, do I need to provide a list(?), instead of making them your enemy, the better off many would be.

Very, very few Christians hate the alphabet soup community. Other religions?!? Guess roll the dice.

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Uh, the killer didn't shoot up a movie theater (although someone else used an AR-15 to do that) a school (AR-15 again) or a shopping mall. He drove past all of those. Drove two hours. So he could specifically target the LGBT community. He cared a lot apparently about the fact that people were Gay.

Same with Eric Rudolph.

You don't seem capable of showing reverence. Or empathy. Or giving a damn about anything that impacts our community. Feel free to continue to straightwash this event.

(06-12-2016 11:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 11:30 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  I'll take it one step further. Pure evil like this islamic jihadist have been given a much easier palate on which to paint, in no small part due to the liberals' political vendetta of protecting someone's FEELINGS, vice correctly protecting someone's RIGHTS.

There is a difference. And submission to the politically-correct, vice focus on the constitutionally-mandated, in no small part leads to the ability for such evil to strike at will. "Gun-control" has nothing to so with it. Allowing police and the feds to do their jobs without fear of politics does.

And for the record, I hope they stick a pig's dick up his arse and fries his corpse in bacon grease.

No. We know that many Muslims loathe us. We are fighting to get automatic asylum for our LGBT brothers and sisters living under hideous regimes in much (but not all) of the Muslim world to safety. I donate to several of those charities. But not all Muslims hate us. When this shooter was named, I legitimately questioned whether this guy was simply a patron who was kicked out. Because there are plenty of people with Muslim names that patronize our facilties. Because they are Gay too.

We know that our biggest protections are the concepts of equality under the law and that the rule of law protects everyone, including unpopular minorities. For us to abrogate those protections weakens those protections when we need them. And we frequently do.

There's no need to defile the killers body. What would that accomplish?

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The killers own father said his son had 'feelings' of disgust directed towards Gay men. We're going with that right now. It may turn out that there's some concrete link between the killer and radical Islam. Other than a phone call after he's decided to shoot up a Gay bar.

And what would those "protections" have provided last night?

nada.

We can either deal with the cancer, or let it continue to spread. Not sure why you would prefer the latter...

(06-13-2016 12:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 08:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  F'U Obama.

http://nypost.com/

Your community wasn't attacked last night.

Yes it was. Unlike your bigoted ass I accept every American citizen as MY community. This was an attack by radical Islam against American citizens. A REPUBLICAN President said years ago we were at war against radical Islam and the President that YOU support has for 7+ years refused to acknowledge that fact.

Gays included in your community? Please, spare me. Do you support my community on anything? Sorry if that sound harsh. But its been a harsh day.

Trying to fight radical Islamists who want to establish Sharia law and who dislike the Gay community and its goals by empowering radical Christians who want to establish moral law and who dislike the Gay community isn't much. No thanks on that 'deal'.

The killer didn't shoot up a mall. He didn't shoot up a school. He drove two friggin' hours so he could target a place that was almost exclusively LGBT.

And thanks for calling me a bigot.

Geezus. Sorry for clogging up the post count here, but are you serious?!?

You think a fire department rolls on up to a burning joint and asks for either the gay or straight card?!? So OF COURSE he supports your community, whichever neighborhood you may reside in, same as any other. Equality, right?

Do you run around openly supporting "straight" communities?

If not, why not? If not, why do you expect positive work from them, while denigrating the "straights" every chance you get?

This was a horrible islamic attack, but going after the good folks that lined up by the THOUSANDS to donate blood and volunteer is again, being a blind bigot. And woefully short-sided.

I would understand and respect Tom's position more (because he isn't all hat and no cattle) if in the past, he hadn't said that conservative gays are basically betraying the cause for exercising their political right to choose. That people like Milo aren't part of the family. I might disagree with liberal Christians but I will never their faith or consider them not part of God's family.

(06-12-2016 08:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  F'U Obama.

http://nypost.com/

Your community wasn't attacked last night. Ours was. We support Obama.

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One of the most sickening things about this whole tragedy is when politicians like Florida Governor Rick Scott (R-Bigot-Hater) refuses to even acknowledge that it was an attack on the LGBT community or even mention the word Gay. To him, its about diminishing our loss for his hateful purposes.

And then there's Donald Trump. He also refused to acknowledge that it was an attack on our community, refused to mention us by name, and then, CONGRATULATED himself for 50 deaths! Its all about him. And certainly nothing about us.

This is straightwashing. They cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge us when we get murdered by the truckload.

Did You forget something ? We are All Americans. We all were Attacked. The LGBT Community are Every bit a part of America and We All stand with Them in this moment of a very disturbing Act against Our People.

(06-13-2016 01:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 12:48 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Yes, some Christians are disgusted by homosexuality. I am to a degree.

BUT, what Christians are NOT doing:

Going into buildings and mass killing gays with a rifle
Throwing gays off buildings
Stoning gays to death
Strapping bombs to themselves and killing as many people as possible

This is the crux of the insane liberal mindset.....they actually believe that "intolerant" feelings are as destructive as mass killings.

You confuse ISIS with all Muslims. Its no different than equating Fred Phelps and Eric Rudolph with all Christians.

Wrong wrong wrong. This is where you are completely off. You confuse ISIS (a violent, murderous, genocidal, crazed Muslim organization that has killed thousands) with Fred Phelps (professional feel-hurter)

Fred Phelps kill count is ZERO. NONE. His casualty count is ZERO. NONE. He is just a total dickhead. The Westboro Baptist Church historical kill count is ZERO. NONE.

The thing is....it isn't like this event is sporadic or unforeseen.....Muslims do this type of thing EVERY DAY ALL OVER THE WORLD. They shoot up gay clubs, they burn schools with children inside, they behead masses of Christians, burn people alive, stone women to death.....

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Except when the same politicians giving empty prayers are the same ones who continually vote on issues against gays. Marco Rubio is a great example

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

I'd be willing to bet not all the victims were even gay.

(06-13-2016 07:15 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

I'd be willing to bet not all the victims were even gay.

And what about the fact many were Latino. Another group Radical Muslims dislike.

(06-13-2016 06:18 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Except when the same politicians giving empty prayers are the same ones who continually vote on issues against gays. Marco Rubio is a great example

So because, say, Marco Rubio opposes gay marriage that means any empathy and/or outrage he shows with regards to this slaughter is empty or fake? Who the hell are you to say that Rubio didn't pray for the victims and the community? What you are saying basically is that if you oppose gay marriage or gay pride you must support mass murder of gays? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The LGBs and the leftists that carry their water ought to be using this to bring people together, not to further tear them apart.

(06-13-2016 07:24 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:18 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Except when the same politicians giving empty prayers are the same ones who continually vote on issues against gays. Marco Rubio is a great example

So because, say, Marco Rubio opposes gay marriage that means any empathy and/or outrage he shows with regards to this slaughter is empty or fake? Who the hell are you to say that Rubio didn't pray for the victims and the community? What you are saying basically is that if you oppose gay marriage or gay pride you must support mass murder of gays? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The LGBs and the leftists that carry their water ought to be using this to bring people together, not to further tear them apart.

fsquid = pwned

He knew what he said would come out really stupid and sure enough, it did.

(06-13-2016 01:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Uh, the killer didn't shoot up a movie theater (although someone else used an AR-15 to do that) a school (AR-15 again) or a shopping mall. He drove past all of those. Drove two hours. So he could specifically target the LGBT community. He cared a lot apparently about the fact that people were Gay.

Same with Eric Rudolph.

You don't seem capable of showing reverence. Or empathy. Or giving a damn about anything that impacts our community. Feel free to continue to straightwash this event.

You're beyond help. Past and future, you are deserving of every **** you thrown your way.

(06-13-2016 06:18 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Except when the same politicians giving empty prayers are the same ones who continually vote on issues against gays. Marco Rubio is a great example

That's some special derangement right there.

(06-12-2016 11:15 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 08:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This is straightwashing. They cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge us when we get murdered by the truckload.

And the SJW's cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge that the same ideology which pitches homosexuals off roofs in the middle east did this in Florida.

I'm very sorry, Tom, that someone singled out a gay club and murdered 50 people. As I told my kids today even if we disagree with how someone lives we are all sinners and they deserve all the safety we deserve.

Oh, it was radical RELIGION that was the gasoline. In this case radical Islam. But Islam has no monopoly on hatred of LGBT persons. In other cases, radical Christians did the killing.

Stalin, who was no friend of religion, criminalised homosexual activity with punishments of up to five years' hard labor. So please let's drop that stupid card.

Quote:And a system that makes it easier to get a license to own an assault rife than a driver's license was the match.

Please define... what rifles are assault rifles and what rifles are not?

BTW how easy is it to get "assault" rifles in France? and did that stop a group of Muslims from killing 150 people and injuring 400 more?

You want to keep your precious SJW intersectional victim pyramid in place but to do so while one group onthat pyramid is killing "your community" is pathalogical.

Yes, a homicidal man who ruled Russia between 90 and 60 years ago, at a time when just about everyone criminalized homosexuality, made being Gay illegal in Russia. What athiest community TODAY is anti-Gay.

I'm not attacking religion in general, or any particular religion here. What I am attacking is any religion that sanctions mistreatment (and discrimination and demeaning counts) against those that don't share their beliefs. Radical religions do that. But Radical Islam doesn't have a monopoly on that. Not all Muslims are radical Islamists. Not all Christians are radical Christians.

I don't know how easy it is to get an assault rifle in France. Apparently, its too easy. But in the USA, its ridiculously easy to do so.

Communist China is anti-gay. While it may have been decriminalized in 1997, it's still not acceptable to the gov't and citizens of that country. This is why using the "atheist" qualifier is ridiculous. Being against homosexuality and even wanting to kill gay people cuts across multiple cultural backgrounds. When something is practiced that goes against what is considered natural, it's going to be looked at in a negative light by people.

https://www.outrightinternational.org/co...%E2%80%99s

I have no issues with gay marriage, protecting gay people's rights to commerce and allowing gay families to have full inheritance rights, hospital visiting rights, etc. But it still doesn't mitigate the fact that I find it disgusting personally. Because of that, there will always be someone or some group that will want to see it stamped out, suppressed or the practitioners killed. I don't see any way to prevent people from feeling that way and even acting on those impulses - because some people are insane or have some delusions of grandeur. We know that radical islamists use the "rich rewards in heaven" schtick to get people to kill themselves while the leaders of these movements rarely seem to put themselves into harms way...but I digress.

Tom makes a valid point that not all Muslims are "evil" wrt to the homosexual community. I found this link where there are 5 Muslim nations that legalized homosexuality: http://islamandhomosexuality.com/5-musli...gay-legal/. What I haven't understood is where Tom was saying that the LGBT community wasn't mentioned in the reports. I heard it mentioned everywhere. Not sure that the point was unless it was trying to point out that some people weren't acknowledging the LGBT as being targets.

ETA: What are the odds to get an assault rifle LEGALLY in any European country as a private citizen? ZERO. Think about that.

Yes. Most secular governments in history have not been friendly to the gays.

And people....please stop comparing the US to Europe. I live here. This continent has some major, major issues right now. This "why can't we be more like Europe?" stuff is very short-sighted.

Step one to making Europe great again is if the Brits decide to leave the EU, as they should. #brexit

(06-13-2016 07:35 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 07:24 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 06:18 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 01:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, an Islamic terrorist killed 50 people. Focus. Stop going on and on about Christianity. Shows you for the ass you really are.

And stop with all the gay crap. They were humans. All had friends and family. You aren't the special snowflake you believe you are with some claim to these victims and the rest of us need to show you some reverence. They were people. No one it seems gives a damn if they were gay or not but you.

Except when the same politicians giving empty prayers are the same ones who continually vote on issues against gays. Marco Rubio is a great example

So because, say, Marco Rubio opposes gay marriage that means any empathy and/or outrage he shows with regards to this slaughter is empty or fake? Who the hell are you to say that Rubio didn't pray for the victims and the community? What you are saying basically is that if you oppose gay marriage or gay pride you must support mass murder of gays? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The LGBs and the leftists that carry their water ought to be using this to bring people together, not to further tear them apart.

fsquid = pwned

He knew what he said would come out really stupid and sure enough, it did.

It was. I may be against gay marriage, but I would have no problem taking a bullet for a gay person to protect them from islamic terrorists.

(06-13-2016 09:12 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Yes. Most secular governments in history have not been friendly to the gays.

And people....please stop comparing the US to Europe. I live here. This continent has some major, major issues right now. This "why can't we be more like Europe?" stuff is very short-sighted.

Step one to making Europe great again is if the Brits decide to leave the EU, as they should. #brexit

Why would the UK's departure from the EU be a step toward making Europe great again? Struggling a bit on that assertion.