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RE: Future FB Schedule (currently 2020-2025)
(11-24-2019 05:35 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
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(11-21-2019 12:17 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  Who the heck is Merrimack College?



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Not doing too much for me. Don’t know what I expected though.

Are you joking? That’s a great schedule! Delaware and Chattanooga at home, UNC, Albany is a playoff team this year. Honestly I think it’s one of the best schedules JMU has had in a long time.

Looking back at it you're right. UNC is a great, regional, FBS matchup that is winnable. Chattanooga at home shouldn't be a tough game but is also not a cupcake and should put some butts in the seat. Merrimack is what it is but I do like having it at the end of the season before playoffs rather than a tune-up. Delaware could be a little scary an opener with a new QB, but certainly a matchup with some history that is good to get on years when we don't have them in conference play.

In a perfect world where we could choose any schedule we wanted, I wouldn't mind replacing the Chattanooga game with a low level G5 (Akron/Marshall/Coastal Carolina/Charlotte) and do double FBS games like some of the Big Sky teams . It would be a little tough spacing them out, and losing a home game, but I think it could work and get another paycheck. If FBS losses don't count against you in playoff seeding, I feel like the only penalty is possibly losing a home game. Beating an FBS team on the road can also be a good recruiting tool. Obviously this is hypothetical since getting teams to agree these games is a lot more difficult when you're doing well.
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RE: Future FB Schedule (currently 2020-2025)
(11-24-2019 09:32 PM)Anders Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 05:35 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 12:42 PM)Anders Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 12:17 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  Who the heck is Merrimack College?



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Not doing too much for me. Don’t know what I expected though.

Are you joking? That’s a great schedule! Delaware and Chattanooga at home, UNC, Albany is a playoff team this year. Honestly I think it’s one of the best schedules JMU has had in a long time.

Looking back at it you're right. UNC is a great, regional, FBS matchup that is winnable. Chattanooga at home shouldn't be a tough game but is also not a cupcake and should put some butts in the seat. Merrimack is what it is but I do like having it at the end of the season before playoffs rather than a tune-up. Delaware could be a little scary an opener with a new QB, but certainly a matchup with some history that is good to get on years when we don't have them in conference play.

In a perfect world where we could choose any schedule we wanted, I wouldn't mind replacing the Chattanooga game with a low level G5 (Akron/Marshall/Coastal Carolina/Charlotte) and do double FBS games like some of the Big Sky teams . It would be a little tough spacing them out, and losing a home game, but I think it could work and get another paycheck. If FBS losses don't count against you in playoff seeding, I feel like the only penalty is possibly losing a home game. Beating an FBS team on the road can also be a good recruiting tool. Obviously this is hypothetical since getting teams to agree these games is a lot more difficult when you're doing well.

No FCS program that is serious about making the playoffs (and as long as JMU is FCS that’s the goal during the regular season) is going to play two FBS games in a 11 game season. Also, to get a seed and play at home (assuming JMU loses both FBS games playing on the road) JMU would have to win a minimum of 8 out of the remaining 9 FCS games on the schedule. Given the strength of the CAA winning 8 of 9 is not something you can depend on.

Just my observation, but I think the recent run of success of 6 consecutive playoff appearances has some JMU FB fans thinking this is the norm. It is not. Hopefully this “golden age” of JMU FB continues unabated, and lasts until something bigger comes along (like a FBS invite). Until then it strikes me that scheduling 1 FBS game and 1 creampuff opponent in a 11 game season is the right formula for continued success.
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RE: Future FB Schedule (currently 2020-2025)
(11-24-2019 11:26 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:32 PM)Anders Wrote:  [quote='Longhorn' pid='16485908' dateline='1574634903']
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Looking back at it you're right. UNC is a great, regional, FBS matchup that is winnable. Chattanooga at home shouldn't be a tough game but is also not a cupcake and should put some butts in the seat. Merrimack is what it is but I do like having it at the end of the season before playoffs rather than a tune-up. Delaware could be a little scary an opener with a new QB, but certainly a matchup with some history that is good to get on years when we don't have them in conference play.

In a perfect world where we could choose any schedule we wanted, I wouldn't mind replacing the Chattanooga game with a low level G5 (Akron/Marshall/Coastal Carolina/Charlotte) and do double FBS games like some of the Big Sky teams . It would be a little tough spacing them out, and losing a home game, but I think it could work and get another paycheck. If FBS losses don't count against you in playoff seeding, I feel like the only penalty is possibly losing a home game. Beating an FBS team on the road can also be a good recruiting tool. Obviously this is hypothetical since getting teams to agree these games is a lot more difficult when you're doing well.

No FCS program that is serious about making the playoffs (and as long as JMU is FCS that’s the goal during the regular season) is going to play two FBS games in a 11 game season. Also, to get a seed and play at home (assuming JMU loses both FBS games playing on the road) JMU would have to win a minimum of 8 out of the remaining 9 FCS games on the schedule. Given the strength of the CAA winning 8 of 9 is not something you can depend on.

Just my observation, but I think the recent run of success of 6 consecutive playoff appearances has some JMU FB fans thinking this is the norm. It is not. Hopefully this “golden age” of JMU FB continues unabated, and lasts until something bigger comes along (like a FBS invite). Until then it strikes me that scheduling 1 FBS game and 1 creampuff opponent in a 11 game season is the right formula for continued success.

That's funny because 3 of the top 8 seeds used this formula. I'm not going to argue about it because in the end it's just my opinion, but you can't say that it doesn't work and couldn't work for JMU. You are correct that the current formula is proven as effective for getting into the playoffs and a top seed. I just think it is worth considering in terms of fan interest and recruiting.
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RE: Future FB Schedule (currently 2020-2025)
(11-25-2019 01:12 PM)Anders Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 11:26 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:32 PM)Anders Wrote:  [quote='Longhorn' pid='16485908' dateline='1574634903']
[quote='Anders' pid='16475000' dateline='1574358134']
[quote='JmuDukes4Life' pid='16474936' dateline='1574356674']

Looking back at it you're right. UNC is a great, regional, FBS matchup that is winnable. Chattanooga at home shouldn't be a tough game but is also not a cupcake and should put some butts in the seat. Merrimack is what it is but I do like having it at the end of the season before playoffs rather than a tune-up. Delaware could be a little scary an opener with a new QB, but certainly a matchup with some history that is good to get on years when we don't have them in conference play.

In a perfect world where we could choose any schedule we wanted, I wouldn't mind replacing the Chattanooga game with a low level G5 (Akron/Marshall/Coastal Carolina/Charlotte) and do double FBS games like some of the Big Sky teams . It would be a little tough spacing them out, and losing a home game, but I think it could work and get another paycheck. If FBS losses don't count against you in playoff seeding, I feel like the only penalty is possibly losing a home game. Beating an FBS team on the road can also be a good recruiting tool. Obviously this is hypothetical since getting teams to agree these games is a lot more difficult when you're doing well.

No FCS program that is serious about making the playoffs (and as long as JMU is FCS that’s the goal during the regular season) is going to play two FBS games in a 11 game season. Also, to get a seed and play at home (assuming JMU loses both FBS games playing on the road) JMU would have to win a minimum of 8 out of the remaining 9 FCS games on the schedule. Given the strength of the CAA winning 8 of 9 is not something you can depend on.

Just my observation, but I think the recent run of success of 6 consecutive playoff appearances has some JMU FB fans thinking this is the norm. It is not. Hopefully this “golden age” of JMU FB continues unabated, and lasts until something bigger comes along (like a FBS invite). Until then it strikes me that scheduling 1 FBS game and 1 creampuff opponent in a 11 game season is the right formula for continued success.

That's funny because 3 of the top 8 seeds used this formula. I'm not going to argue about it because in the end it's just my opinion, but you can't say that it doesn't work and couldn't work for JMU. You are correct that the current formula is proven as effective for getting into the playoffs and a top seed. I just think it is worth considering in terms of fan interest and recruiting.

Neither the #1 or #2 seeds used that formula, nor has NDSU ever played 2 FBS games in a 11 game season. There must be a reason for that, right?
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Cupcake at end of season makes sense; rest up and heal up for the playoffs.
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(11-26-2019 09:06 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Cupcake at end of season makes sense; rest up and heal up for the playoffs.

It has become the SEC model, why not replicate the top conference in college football?
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Great 2020 schedule. Love that we have all the 'classic' CAA South teams, which unfortunately doesn't happen every year with the pod format the CAA moved to.
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Home and home with Monmouth 2024 and 2025.
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That could end up being a tough game. Monmouth seems to be an up and coming program.
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Monmouth is in West Long Branch, NJ. They play in a 4,200 seat stadium. I'm surprised we're playing at a school with such a small facility. I remember we lost our collective **** when we supposedly scheduled a home and home with St. Francis and their 3,450 seat facility. It's not much bigger.

It appears their facility, Kessler Stadium, only has seats on one side of the field. No visitor stands or end zone stands.
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(12-01-2019 01:48 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Monmouth is in West Long Branch, NJ. They play in a 4,200 seat stadium. I'm surprised we're playing at a school with such a small facility. I remember we lost our collective **** when we supposedly scheduled a home and home with St. Francis and their 3,450 seat facility. It's not much bigger.

It appears their facility, Kessler Stadium, only has seats on one side of the field. No visitor stands or end zone stands.

Yea but its by the beach and a really nice campus during the best time of year to be at the shore. Should be able to fill half the stands in purple.
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(12-01-2019 01:48 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Monmouth is in West Long Branch, NJ. They play in a 4,200 seat stadium. I'm surprised we're playing at a school with such a small facility. I remember we lost our collective **** when we supposedly scheduled a home and home with St. Francis and their 3,450 seat facility. It's not much bigger.

It appears their facility, Kessler Stadium, only has seats on one side of the field. No visitor stands or end zone stands.
They only have about 6,200 on campus students, so I would expect any private school that size to have a stadium under 10k, but that is small. Yeah, no endzone or away side seating, but I'm sure they could easily more than double that capacity with temp seats if need be in the coming years (as UNH used to do every season with only 6.5k permanent before they opened their newly expanded/renovated 11k stadium).

The fact that in 2014 Monmouth moved from the 45 scholly NEC to be a geographical misfit in the full scholly Big South, and in 2017 renovated their stadium, shows that at least they have made a commitment to football.
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I would have preferred to see a 2 for 1, but 2024 and 2025 are 12 game seasons, so if JMU hasn't moved up, or made a move up announcement, the 2025 with @ Monmouth and @ VT, should still be 6 home games. But the 2025 game may very well not be played @ Monmouth if JMU has moved up...

At least they had a decent showing for a Thanksgiving weekend playoff game.
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(12-01-2019 01:48 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Monmouth is in West Long Branch, NJ. They play in a 4,200 seat stadium. I'm surprised we're playing at a school with such a small facility. I remember we lost our collective **** when we supposedly scheduled a home and home with St. Francis and their 3,450 seat facility. It's not much bigger.

It appears their facility, Kessler Stadium, only has seats on one side of the field. No visitor stands or end zone stands.

Why are you surprised by this?
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We also get a lot of football players and non-athlete students from that area, so it is a great chance for prospective students to see the Dukes and get a feel for the JMU family.
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(12-02-2019 09:06 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  We also get a lot of football players and non-athlete students from that area, so it is a great chance for prospective students to see the Dukes and get a feel for the JMU family.

Will be a limited number or prospects seeing as how their stadium has a seating capacity of 4200
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I don't hate it, because I think they are a quality program on the rise. Still, it doesn't seem like we're leveraging like we could. Would have thought at minimum we'd accept a 2 for 1.

Perhaps the coaches want to get into these recruiting areas, similar to the Norfolk St. deal?
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What’s the smallest venue in the CAA?
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Yep that’s a pretty tiny venue for a home/home. Nowhere near as big as NSU!
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(12-02-2019 10:22 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yep that’s a pretty tiny venue for a home/home. Nowhere near as big as NSU!

I don't disagree, but percentage wise it's not a lot of difference between some of the home-and-home deals NC State has done. Even UVA did one with either MTSU or WKU (can't remember which).
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