(06-17-2016 04:24 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 02:28 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 12:53 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  KU would not be a good cultural fit for the SEC. Aside from geographic and historic differences, we'd probably spend too much time arguing how our BBQ is better than Tennessee, North Carolina, and Texas BBQ (although those arguments may in the end become bonding moments) and wondering why all the SEC schools are so interested in playing that sport with the funny-shaped ball.

I'm not particularly discriminatory when it comes to BBQ. It's all pretty good. Although being from Alabama, I do have an affinity for smoked chicken and white BBQ sauce.

I think the old quote about pizza and sex ("Even when it's bad, it's still pretty good") applies to most BBQ.

Fair enough with two exceptions: if the meat is too dry, or if the sauce is too sweet.

(06-17-2016 05:12 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 04:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:19 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 11:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-15-2016 11:10 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  Based on my analysis 1) FSU and Texas 2) FSU/Ok or Texas/OK 3) FSU/OK/Texas and NC State 4) Virginia and one of the above 5) Virginia Tech/north Carolina school and one of above.

But you clearly value culture and I'm not sure there is a good way to objectively measure that. Clemson is definitely more SEC like than any other school but how do you prove that other than the categories I evaluated? Even common opponents in history doesn't work because then you get Georgia Tech and Tulane type schools.

Well, both Georgia Tech and Tulane were members of the SEC for a long time until they both departed in the mid 60's. Boy did they screw up!

So what is a good way to measure "cultural fit?" is it just southern, football first schools in relatively rural locations (excepting Vandy) with rabid fan bases? What makes Missouri an odd fit versus say Vanderbilt? What is it that ties the SEC together? Why do we say schools like FSU/Clemson/Oklahoma/VTech are all "SEC-like" while schools like Kansas/ISU are an outlier?

Well you might not be Southern if:

sweet tea is not available at local restaurants

if you mistake grits for cream of wheat

if you say pop instead of coke

if fried chicken is considered ethnic

if you pretend that you have no racism in your history and profess it has never been a problem for you (see Boston & Pontiac & Los Angeles)

if you have no concept of certain contractions like "wim'me" "will'ya" & "moma'n'em"

if you have no personal vignettes relating to Bear, Shug, Vince, Charlie Mac, Dougy D., Johnny V, Bobby D, Poppa B, the Great Pumpkin, the 'Ole Ball Coach, or the General

if your band wears feathers atop their band caps and you don't have majorettes that make you drool

if you don't have barbecue, low country boils, seafood etouffee, fried chicken, fried catfish, or fried okra at your tailgate

if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC

if you've never hunted, gone deep sea fishing, listened to football at dove shoots, or consumed moonshine at a wedding reception

if you don't understand that church culture has nothing to do with God

if you have 3 more major cities than you have state capitols

or if father's day is confusing

and finally you are definitely regionally conflicted if basketball comes first

"if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC"..........

This is exactly why Carolina will never join the SEC!

Exactly!!!

(06-17-2016 05:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 05:12 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 04:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:19 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 11:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, both Georgia Tech and Tulane were members of the SEC for a long time until they both departed in the mid 60's. Boy did they screw up!

So what is a good way to measure "cultural fit?" is it just southern, football first schools in relatively rural locations (excepting Vandy) with rabid fan bases? What makes Missouri an odd fit versus say Vanderbilt? What is it that ties the SEC together? Why do we say schools like FSU/Clemson/Oklahoma/VTech are all "SEC-like" while schools like Kansas/ISU are an outlier?

Well you might not be Southern if:

sweet tea is not available at local restaurants

if you mistake grits for cream of wheat

if you say pop instead of coke

if fried chicken is considered ethnic

if you pretend that you have no racism in your history and profess it has never been a problem for you (see Boston & Pontiac & Los Angeles)

if you have no concept of certain contractions like "wim'me" "will'ya" & "moma'n'em"

if you have no personal vignettes relating to Bear, Shug, Vince, Charlie Mac, Dougy D., Johnny V, Bobby D, Poppa B, the Great Pumpkin, the 'Ole Ball Coach, or the General

if your band wears feathers atop their band caps and you don't have majorettes that make you drool

if you don't have barbecue, low country boils, seafood etouffee, fried chicken, fried catfish, or fried okra at your tailgate

if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC

if you've never hunted, gone deep sea fishing, listened to football at dove shoots, or consumed moonshine at a wedding reception

if you don't understand that church culture has nothing to do with God

if you have 3 more major cities than you have state capitols

or if father's day is confusing

and finally you are definitely regionally conflicted if basketball comes first

"if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC"..........

This is exactly why Carolina will never join the SEC!

Exactly!!!

Whew!, I'm glad we've gotten that settled.
Your people probably held SEC SEC SEC chant practice during orientation for A&M and Missouri.

(06-18-2016 06:37 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 05:17 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 05:12 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 04:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-16-2016 03:19 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  So what is a good way to measure "cultural fit?" is it just southern, football first schools in relatively rural locations (excepting Vandy) with rabid fan bases? What makes Missouri an odd fit versus say Vanderbilt? What is it that ties the SEC together? Why do we say schools like FSU/Clemson/Oklahoma/VTech are all "SEC-like" while schools like Kansas/ISU are an outlier?

Well you might not be Southern if:

sweet tea is not available at local restaurants

if you mistake grits for cream of wheat

if you say pop instead of coke

if fried chicken is considered ethnic

if you pretend that you have no racism in your history and profess it has never been a problem for you (see Boston & Pontiac & Los Angeles)

if you have no concept of certain contractions like "wim'me" "will'ya" & "moma'n'em"

if you have no personal vignettes relating to Bear, Shug, Vince, Charlie Mac, Dougy D., Johnny V, Bobby D, Poppa B, the Great Pumpkin, the 'Ole Ball Coach, or the General

if your band wears feathers atop their band caps and you don't have majorettes that make you drool

if you don't have barbecue, low country boils, seafood etouffee, fried chicken, fried catfish, or fried okra at your tailgate

if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC

if you've never hunted, gone deep sea fishing, listened to football at dove shoots, or consumed moonshine at a wedding reception

if you don't understand that church culture has nothing to do with God

if you have 3 more major cities than you have state capitols

or if father's day is confusing

and finally you are definitely regionally conflicted if basketball comes first

"if you don't understand the desire to kick someone's ass as you're yelling SEC, SEC, SEC"..........

This is exactly why Carolina will never join the SEC!

Exactly!!!

Whew!, I'm glad we've gotten that settled.
Your people probably held SEC SEC SEC chant practice during orientation for A&M and Missouri.

A&M needed no practice. It's in their blood. Missouri only had latent tendencies.