(06-07-2016 09:15 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 09:12 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 09:10 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Even if we win Coastal comes back and beats NC St., and we win tonight, we will not be hosting a super.

http://www.d1baseball.com/news/d1basebal...s-central/

Yes, but given we're the 8:00pm EST start on Saturday, we don't have to travel until mid-day on Saturday.

I don't know if that was TIC, but if not, why wouldn't we go ahead and go out there to get acclimated to the weather and park?

I was talking about us, the fans; not the team and players. Of course, they'll be heading out on Friday, and no doubt get to practice on the field for 90 minutes to get acclimated.

(06-07-2016 09:19 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 09:15 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 09:12 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 09:10 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Even if we win Coastal comes back and beats NC St., and we win tonight, we will not be hosting a super.

http://www.d1baseball.com/news/d1basebal...s-central/

Yes, but given we're the 8:00pm EST start on Saturday, we don't have to travel until mid-day on Saturday.

I don't know if that was TIC, but if not, why wouldn't we go ahead and go out there to get acclimated to the weather and park?

I was talking about us, the fans; not the team and players. Of course, they'll be heading out on Friday, and no doubt get to practice on the field for 90 minutes to get acclimated.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks Walt.

(06-07-2016 08:13 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Another point gone largely unnoticed (or unreported) is the great job our pitchers have done throughout this regional holding baserunners on 1B...and the job Hunter has done throwing out attempted basestealers. SELA and LSU are two of the best running teams in the nation.

...as we were constantly reminded by the ESPN crew yesterday. According to them, LSU is the best overall (in the SEC) at nearly everything. That little phrase, "...best overall (in the SEC)..." annoyed me more than it should have.

(06-07-2016 09:28 AM)KBROwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 08:13 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Another point gone largely unnoticed (or unreported) is the great job our pitchers have done throughout this regional holding baserunners on 1B...and the job Hunter has done throwing out attempted basestealers. SELA and LSU are two of the best running teams in the nation.

...as we were constantly reminded by the ESPN crew yesterday. According to them, LSU is the best overall (in the SEC) at nearly everything. That little phrase, "...best overall (in the SEC)..." annoyed me more than it should have.

ESPN crew only because ESPN hired them instead of going out and getting freelance announcers like Saltzman or Yardley. These are the LSU announcers....gee you think if the Regional had been at Rice they would have hired JP? I don't think so. That is why there were all the comments about their work during the game thread. They were just doing their usual shtick.

(06-07-2016 09:28 AM)KBROwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 08:13 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Another point gone largely unnoticed (or unreported) is the great job our pitchers have done throughout this regional holding baserunners on 1B...and the job Hunter has done throwing out attempted basestealers. SELA and LSU are two of the best running teams in the nation.

...as we were constantly reminded by the ESPN crew yesterday. According to them, LSU is the best overall (in the SEC) at nearly everything. That little phrase, "...best overall (in the SEC)..." annoyed me more than it should have.

after today it will be
"best [in SEC] at losing to Rice"

In fairness to McDonald, he has said PLENTY of good things about our program over the last few days, and nothing particularly negative.

(06-07-2016 08:13 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Another point gone largely unnoticed (or unreported) is the great job our pitchers have done throughout this regional holding baserunners on 1B...and the job Hunter has done throwing out attempted basestealers. SELA and LSU are two of the best running teams in the nation.

Absolutely!

(06-07-2016 09:53 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  ESPN crew only because ESPN hired them instead of going out and getting freelance announcers like Saltzman or Yardley. These are the LSU announcers....gee you think if the Regional had been at Rice they would have hired JP? I don't think so. That is why there were all the comments about their work during the game thread. They were just doing their usual shtick.

Yes, I saw. It was pretty clear they were LSU announcers. They had all sorts of historical info and back stories about each of the LSU players, but the Rice side was limited to just info from this weekend, stat sheet info, and media guide tidbits.

It's not surprisingly really. The SEC has their own TV network which means all the SEC teams have more TV "talent" that is familiar with their teams. So when ESPN wants to hire some short term talent, the pool is a mix of generic talent and P5 talent. Why wouldn't ESPN want to hire a team very familiar with the #1 seed and likely favored by the largest percentage of the viewing audience? I assume the situation would be similar in the rest of the regionals too. If Rice were hosting we'd just get one of the generic crews. ...and we'd still be complaining about how terrible they were.

(06-07-2016 09:59 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  In fairness to McDonald, he has said PLENTY of good things about our program over the last few days, and nothing particularly negative.

I paid attention to that also. Even if only because Rice was clearly playing them well, ( and perhaps he doesn't want to denigrate a team that wins the game, thereby denigrating LSU), he was consistently complimentary

(06-07-2016 06:17 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 04:01 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:53 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 11:54 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Jason-- you can have my four tickets (at cost), if you like, as all of us have now departed Baton Rouge. If interested (or anyone else is interested), send me a PM or e-mail so I can make arrangements with the Rice ticket office.

Thanks. I already have 2 tickets under my name, but I'll keep that in mind if anyone else comes up with me.

(06-06-2016 11:59 PM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  You're right. It just takes a keyboard and anonymity!

Give Coach Graham the benefit of the doubt - you're starting to fall for Keith Law's schtick and that's not consistent with how Coach Graham has treated pitchers for years.

I've defended Coach Graham's use of starting pitchers over the last decade or so with Klaw. Some seasons I feel like he's been fine with relievers as well. My personal opinion, which is just that (and doesn't matter at all) is that he's leaned a little too heavily on Otto. I'm not trying to claim some special knowledge here.

(06-07-2016 12:12 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Yeah, it's not as if Mr Big was ever a college baseball player or anything

I appreciate the defense, but I consider myself to be the least significant player of the Wayne Graham era. So as to not mislead people, I make sure and tell them that I was on the baseball team at Rice, not that I played baseball at Rice!

(06-07-2016 12:17 AM)RiceDad Wrote:  So, for us ignorant sluts out here, who is Mr Big??

One of my favorite posts. Unfortunately, my baseballcube citation no longer works!

(06-07-2016 12:19 AM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  ...and it's not as if Coach Graham is in the College Baseball HOF or anything..

come on, son.

Bottom line is that I trust our medical team, Coach G and the player before I'll go spreading allegations of abuse.

Look I'm just happy we won - we've got nice momentum going into tomorrow, which is certainly a huge improvement vs. where we stood last night.

I never said or wrote anything about abuse. I used the word "dislike". What I really mean is concern. And because I think Wayne Graham is an amazing coach, it makes me uncomfortable when he uses pitchers in a way that opens himself to criticism regarding player health, which I believe is paramount to him. I wasn't trying to make this about me. I'm just a fan. I have no special knowledge. I'm allowed to criticize decisions to bunt or not pulling a pitcher, just like the rest of you!

I don't understand the constant need to rehash the subject just about every game. None of us are in on any of the decision making process , so why feel the need to keep repeating the argument, on either side of the equation. One poster said " it's on the coaches to recruit and develop " better pitchers. Well of course it is, buts is not like we don't recruit multiple pitchers every year, we do. I'm quite sure if they could sing more highly sought-after players , they would . There are little items such as academic standards, tuition , etc that just might be a factor . Oh, then, BTW, there is Texas A&M, UT, TT, and TCU all w P5 money, updated facilities, lower admission standards, cheaper tuition and larger alumni bases. Then lets throw in UH, DBU among others . I just don't understand why we don't get to the CWS every year,(sarcasm) .

Do I think OG is perfect, NO. Do I think I'm in position to criticize himon the particulars of the use of players, such as the batting order, or the pitching staff, clearly NOT.
I managed to catch quite a bit of the game in between patients, and was quite impressed with a well-coached, gritty team that would not cave in to pressure . Even if they don't win tomorrow, this win was BIG in re-establishing the program as one that can compete w ANYBODY, as opposed to going out w a whimper as we have seen too often in post season recently.

So can we PLEASE just enjoy watching some real student athletes play great ball?

I have to ask, what do you think is the point of a message board? Just curious

I have no opinion on the the the discussion above, but I do find questioning the existence of a discussion that seems to have some scope to discuss and debate to be odd.

Just my 2 cents.

Just about every game thread goes the same way. People don't have to pound their point home. We (mostly ) went to Rice .

(06-07-2016 10:47 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 06:17 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 04:01 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:53 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 11:54 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Jason-- you can have my four tickets (at cost), if you like, as all of us have now departed Baton Rouge. If interested (or anyone else is interested), send me a PM or e-mail so I can make arrangements with the Rice ticket office.

Thanks. I already have 2 tickets under my name, but I'll keep that in mind if anyone else comes up with me.

(06-06-2016 11:59 PM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  You're right. It just takes a keyboard and anonymity!

Give Coach Graham the benefit of the doubt - you're starting to fall for Keith Law's schtick and that's not consistent with how Coach Graham has treated pitchers for years.

I've defended Coach Graham's use of starting pitchers over the last decade or so with Klaw. Some seasons I feel like he's been fine with relievers as well. My personal opinion, which is just that (and doesn't matter at all) is that he's leaned a little too heavily on Otto. I'm not trying to claim some special knowledge here.

(06-07-2016 12:12 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Yeah, it's not as if Mr Big was ever a college baseball player or anything

I appreciate the defense, but I consider myself to be the least significant player of the Wayne Graham era. So as to not mislead people, I make sure and tell them that I was on the baseball team at Rice, not that I played baseball at Rice!

(06-07-2016 12:17 AM)RiceDad Wrote:  So, for us ignorant sluts out here, who is Mr Big??

One of my favorite posts. Unfortunately, my baseballcube citation no longer works!

(06-07-2016 12:19 AM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  ...and it's not as if Coach Graham is in the College Baseball HOF or anything..

come on, son.

Bottom line is that I trust our medical team, Coach G and the player before I'll go spreading allegations of abuse.

Look I'm just happy we won - we've got nice momentum going into tomorrow, which is certainly a huge improvement vs. where we stood last night.

I never said or wrote anything about abuse. I used the word "dislike". What I really mean is concern. And because I think Wayne Graham is an amazing coach, it makes me uncomfortable when he uses pitchers in a way that opens himself to criticism regarding player health, which I believe is paramount to him. I wasn't trying to make this about me. I'm just a fan. I have no special knowledge. I'm allowed to criticize decisions to bunt or not pulling a pitcher, just like the rest of you!

I don't understand the constant need to rehash the subject just about every game. None of us are in on any of the decision making process , so why feel the need to keep repeating the argument, on either side of the equation. One poster said " it's on the coaches to recruit and develop " better pitchers. Well of course it is, buts is not like we don't recruit multiple pitchers every year, we do. I'm quite sure if they could sing more highly sought-after players , they would . There are little items such as academic standards, tuition , etc that just might be a factor . Oh, then, BTW, there is Texas A&M, UT, TT, and TCU all w P5 money, updated facilities, lower admission standards, cheaper tuition and larger alumni bases. Then lets throw in UH, DBU among others . I just don't understand why we don't get to the CWS every year,(sarcasm) .

Do I think OG is perfect, NO. Do I think I'm in position to criticize himon the particulars of the use of players, such as the batting order, or the pitching staff, clearly NOT.
I managed to catch quite a bit of the game in between patients, and was quite impressed with a well-coached, gritty team that would not cave in to pressure . Even if they don't win tomorrow, this win was BIG in re-establishing the program as one that can compete w ANYBODY, as opposed to going out w a whimper as we have seen too often in post season recently.

So can we PLEASE just enjoy watching some real student athletes play great ball?

I have to ask, what do you think is the point of a message board? Just curious

I have no opinion on the the the discussion above, but I do find questioning the existence of a discussion that seems to have some scope to discuss and debate to be odd.

Just my 2 cents.

Just about every game thread goes the same way. People don't have to pound their point home. We (mostly ) went to Rice .

Some of us even crammed a four year program into five years. Without even planning to!

(me, in case you don't get the humor)

(06-07-2016 10:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 10:47 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 06:17 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 04:01 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:53 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Thanks. I already have 2 tickets under my name, but I'll keep that in mind if anyone else comes up with me.


I've defended Coach Graham's use of starting pitchers over the last decade or so with Klaw. Some seasons I feel like he's been fine with relievers as well. My personal opinion, which is just that (and doesn't matter at all) is that he's leaned a little too heavily on Otto. I'm not trying to claim some special knowledge here.


I appreciate the defense, but I consider myself to be the least significant player of the Wayne Graham era. So as to not mislead people, I make sure and tell them that I was on the baseball team at Rice, not that I played baseball at Rice!


One of my favorite posts. Unfortunately, my baseballcube citation no longer works!


I never said or wrote anything about abuse. I used the word "dislike". What I really mean is concern. And because I think Wayne Graham is an amazing coach, it makes me uncomfortable when he uses pitchers in a way that opens himself to criticism regarding player health, which I believe is paramount to him. I wasn't trying to make this about me. I'm just a fan. I have no special knowledge. I'm allowed to criticize decisions to bunt or not pulling a pitcher, just like the rest of you!

I don't understand the constant need to rehash the subject just about every game. None of us are in on any of the decision making process , so why feel the need to keep repeating the argument, on either side of the equation. One poster said " it's on the coaches to recruit and develop " better pitchers. Well of course it is, buts is not like we don't recruit multiple pitchers every year, we do. I'm quite sure if they could sing more highly sought-after players , they would . There are little items such as academic standards, tuition , etc that just might be a factor . Oh, then, BTW, there is Texas A&M, UT, TT, and TCU all w P5 money, updated facilities, lower admission standards, cheaper tuition and larger alumni bases. Then lets throw in UH, DBU among others . I just don't understand why we don't get to the CWS every year,(sarcasm) .

Do I think OG is perfect, NO. Do I think I'm in position to criticize himon the particulars of the use of players, such as the batting order, or the pitching staff, clearly NOT.
I managed to catch quite a bit of the game in between patients, and was quite impressed with a well-coached, gritty team that would not cave in to pressure . Even if they don't win tomorrow, this win was BIG in re-establishing the program as one that can compete w ANYBODY, as opposed to going out w a whimper as we have seen too often in post season recently.

So can we PLEASE just enjoy watching some real student athletes play great ball?

I have to ask, what do you think is the point of a message board? Just curious

I have no opinion on the the the discussion above, but I do find questioning the existence of a discussion that seems to have some scope to discuss and debate to be odd.

Just my 2 cents.

Just about every game thread goes the same way. People don't have to pound their point home. We (mostly ) went to Rice .

Some of us even crammed a four year program into five years. Without even planning to!

(me, in case you don't get the humor)

But one of your years was a redshirt.

(06-06-2016 11:59 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 11:51 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  Fox will have had 36 hours of rest by game time tomorrow. He starts and I think we'll see Dup for an inning and Otto for an inning. Need to get 3 innings out of Amador or Solecitto before going to Dup/Otto.

It'll be more like 75 hours of rest for Fox. I think the game got called around 1 P.M. on Saturday.

Doh! You are right -- I was trying to suggest that he would have 3 days of rest, however I butchered the math. I would note that typically when a pitcher has "3 days of rest", then they are pitching on the 4th day, however the Saturday game was in the morning which does give him another 10 or so hours of rest as compared to a typical 7pm start time. I do think we'll see Fox at some point tonight.

(06-07-2016 11:02 AM)Da.Owl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 10:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 10:47 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 06:17 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 04:01 AM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  I don't understand the constant need to rehash the subject just about every game. None of us are in on any of the decision making process , so why feel the need to keep repeating the argument, on either side of the equation. One poster said " it's on the coaches to recruit and develop " better pitchers. Well of course it is, buts is not like we don't recruit multiple pitchers every year, we do. I'm quite sure if they could sing more highly sought-after players , they would . There are little items such as academic standards, tuition , etc that just might be a factor . Oh, then, BTW, there is Texas A&M, UT, TT, and TCU all w P5 money, updated facilities, lower admission standards, cheaper tuition and larger alumni bases. Then lets throw in UH, DBU among others . I just don't understand why we don't get to the CWS every year,(sarcasm) .

Do I think OG is perfect, NO. Do I think I'm in position to criticize himon the particulars of the use of players, such as the batting order, or the pitching staff, clearly NOT.
I managed to catch quite a bit of the game in between patients, and was quite impressed with a well-coached, gritty team that would not cave in to pressure . Even if they don't win tomorrow, this win was BIG in re-establishing the program as one that can compete w ANYBODY, as opposed to going out w a whimper as we have seen too often in post season recently.

So can we PLEASE just enjoy watching some real student athletes play great ball?

I have to ask, what do you think is the point of a message board? Just curious

I have no opinion on the the the discussion above, but I do find questioning the existence of a discussion that seems to have some scope to discuss and debate to be odd.

Just my 2 cents.

Just about every game thread goes the same way. People don't have to pound their point home. We (mostly ) went to Rice .

Some of us even crammed a four year program into five years. Without even planning to!

(me, in case you don't get the humor)

But one of your years was a redshirt.

Some would say they all were...

I missed the first inning of last night's game but watched it on replay. Man, that could have easily turned into a big inning for LSU - a merciful strike call on 3-1, a really close play at second on the steal attempt, and a ball hit to the warning track in center, all sandwiched around two solid singles. Maybe it's cosmic payback for the "grand slam" the night before, but we could sure use a little of the same help today.