(05-31-2016 09:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Couple of developments:

The police are reviewing the incident to see if charges should be filed against the parents.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/31/cin...lling.html

Dad has a long wrap sheet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...story.html

Dad has at least one other child by another woman who doesn't think highly of Dad.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/michelle-g...-petition/

infographic on the three barriers the 3 year old had to overcome to get to the gorillas.
http://www.fox19.com/clip/12476386/how-3...pe=generic

Despite every inclination I had not to do so I clicked on the daily mail and heavy links. Honestly I feel like I killed as many brain cells as if I had just huffed a case of spray paint.

(05-31-2016 01:29 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  We now live in a time when someone MUST be held at fault if something bad happens. The people at fault, as deemed by the masses, must be publicly shamed, threatened and often endangered.

it's become a different form of salem.....

it's mindnumbingly pathetic how the majority of the media play their games....and the masses just eat it up.....

(05-31-2016 10:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 09:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Couple of developments:

The police are reviewing the incident to see if charges should be filed against the parents.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/31/cin...lling.html

Dad has a long wrap sheet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...story.html

Dad has at least one other child by another woman who doesn't think highly of Dad.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/michelle-g...-petition/

infographic on the three barriers the 3 year old had to overcome to get to the gorillas.
http://www.fox19.com/clip/12476386/how-3...pe=generic

Despite every inclination I had not to do so I clicked on the daily mail and heavy links. Honestly I feel like I killed as many brain cells as if I had just huffed a case of spray paint.

there are some that see gold at the end of 'that' rainbow.....

(05-31-2016 11:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 10:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 09:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Couple of developments:

The police are reviewing the incident to see if charges should be filed against the parents.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/31/cin...lling.html

Dad has a long wrap sheet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...story.html

Dad has at least one other child by another woman who doesn't think highly of Dad.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/michelle-g...-petition/

infographic on the three barriers the 3 year old had to overcome to get to the gorillas.
http://www.fox19.com/clip/12476386/how-3...pe=generic

Despite every inclination I had not to do so I clicked on the daily mail and heavy links. Honestly I feel like I killed as many brain cells as if I had just huffed a case of spray paint.

there are some that see gold at the end of 'that' rainbow.....

I remember the first call we ran for a huffer. Dude was freaking out because he was dizzy and couldn't catch his breath. We asked him if he had inhaled something and he said "No! Why would you think that?" I said "You have gold and silver paint all over your mouth and nose." Almost as bad as the dude who wanted to know why we thought he was on drugs while laying there with a syringe still stuck in his arm.

Oh and while we are talking about idiots....back to the OP:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/...e-problem/

Quote:Do you feel strongly about Harambe, the hapless gorilla executed by Cincinnati zoo to protect the life of the four-year old child Isaiah whose stupid, irresponsible parents allowed him to crawl into the gorilla’s pen?

Well I do too. Especially when you realise – at least by some accounts – that the gorilla was actually trying to protect the child not kill it.

But I don’t think in the outrage stakes any of us can quite compete with the angry black people in social media forums who have been blaming the incident on entrenched white privilege.

Quote:There’s just one flaw in this GorillaLivesMatter thesis. Can you guess what it is?

Here's a picture of Isaiah's parents

Side Note: If you need any more proof people will cry "white privilege" fatuously and uncritically over anything...

http://www.vocativ.com/324150/harambe-go...-tensions/

(06-01-2016 08:01 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Side Note: If you need any more proof people will cry "white privilege" fatuously and uncritically over anything...

http://www.vocativ.com/324150/harambe-go...-tensions/

If the kid were black, his parents would have popped a cap in that Gorilla themselves.

#blacklivesmatter

Unsure what the Dad's rap sheet has to do with this.

The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

I'm guessing the kids momma was glued to facebook.

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

mostly correct....it's the dipshites that pay attention to media hounds that screw the pooch...

most responsible folks don't give a fk one way or the other....

what should really scare the masses are the faggs that can't understand how to get out of their own way....

such is the current state of dem faggdoms.....

edit and necessitated disclaimer: metaphors biatches!

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4 year old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

(06-01-2016 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually, you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4-year-old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

And zoos open their gates with a reasonable expectation that parents will watch their children. The only "in an instant" we have is the mother saying it happened in "an instant". To her, it might have felt like an instant but it could have been 30 seconds which is a big enough chunk of time for a 4yo to get into about anything.

The exhibit has not had a kid enter in the nearly 40 years since it was opened. I'd say that's a pretty good track record. If you have raised a 4yo you realize just how dastardly they can be.

I had a 3yo kid wake up, get out of a crib, get past a room full of adults by crawling out of site, get past a locked door and walk into lake Erie. Thank *GOD* that she did an about face to end up screaming at the front door. We could have lost her.

I'm not going to lay into the mother, the kid, or the zoo.

Mother: Sometimes you blink your eyes and a kid can up and vanish. Turn to take a picture of one of your kids and the others can run wild. I've taken three kids to a zoo by myself 2,6,7... It's nerve racking. Now that they are 4,9,11 trips to the zoo museum are far easier.

Kid: 4yo's are way more inginutive then we give them credit for. Kid proofing stuff is more or less a losing battle passed 3 years old.

Zoo: Nearly 40 years without incident and when the kid was in danger they did not hesitate to put down the Gorilla.

(06-01-2016 11:01 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually, you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4-year-old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

And zoos open their gates with a reasonable expectation that parents will watch their children. The only "in an instant" we have is the mother saying it happened in "an instant". To her, it might have felt like an instant but it could have been 30 seconds which is a big enough chunk of time for a 4yo to get into about anything.

The exhibit has not had a kid enter in the nearly 40 years since it was opened. I'd say that's a pretty good track record. If you have raised a 4yo you realize just how dastardly they can be.

I had a 3yo kid wake up, get out of a crib, get past a room full of adults by crawling out of site, get past a locked door and walk into lake Erie. Thank *GOD* that she did an about face to end up screaming at the front door. We could have lost her.

I'm not going to lay into the mother, the kid, or the zoo.

Mother: Sometimes you blink your eyes and a kid can up and vanish. Turn to take a picture of one of your kids and the others can run wild. I've taken three kids to a zoo by myself 2,6,7... It's nerve racking. Now that they are 4,9,11 trips to the zoo museum are far easier.

Kid: 4yo's are way more inginutive then we give them credit for. Kid proofing stuff is more or less a losing battle passed 3 years old.

Zoo: Nearly 40 years without incident and when the kid was in danger they did not hesitate to put down the Gorilla.

Unfortunately, these days rules/barriers need to be in place to basically protect the stupid from themselves. It's the same reason a ladder has like 40 warning messages, etc. Stupid is as stupid does. Often times it pays to be really stupid as I imagine we'll find out in this case.

(06-01-2016 09:35 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Unsure what the Dad's rap sheet has to do with this.

Nothing, last I read he has a job at an industrial supply company.

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Yeah they closed the exhibit and are redoing the barrier fence.

(06-01-2016 11:01 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually, you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4-year-old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

And zoos open their gates with a reasonable expectation that parents will watch their children. The only "in an instant" we have is the mother saying it happened in "an instant". To her, it might have felt like an instant but it could have been 30 seconds which is a big enough chunk of time for a 4yo to get into about anything.

The exhibit has not had a kid enter in the nearly 40 years since it was opened. I'd say that's a pretty good track record. If you have raised a 4yo you realize just how dastardly they can be.

I had a 3yo kid wake up, get out of a crib, get past a room full of adults by crawling out of site, get past a locked door and walk into lake Erie. Thank *GOD* that she did an about face to end up screaming at the front door. We could have lost her.

I'm not going to lay into the mother, the kid, or the zoo.

Mother: Sometimes you blink your eyes and a kid can up and vanish. Turn to take a picture of one of your kids and the others can run wild. I've taken three kids to a zoo by myself 2,6,7... It's nerve racking. Now that they are 4,9,11 trips to the zoo museum are far easier.

Kid: 4yo's are way more inginutive then we give them credit for. Kid proofing stuff is more or less a losing battle passed 3 years old.

Zoo: Nearly 40 years without incident and when the kid was in danger they did not hesitate to put down the Gorilla.

If your child wound up in Lake Erie, do you think you should have been charged for neglect?

The lesson is simple, schit happens. Luckily, this child here was unharmed as yours was. The only thing this is going to lead to is leash laws for kids.

(06-01-2016 11:01 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually, you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4-year-old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

And zoos open their gates with a reasonable expectation that parents will watch their children. The only "in an instant" we have is the mother saying it happened in "an instant". To her, it might have felt like an instant but it could have been 30 seconds which is a big enough chunk of time for a 4yo to get into about anything.

The exhibit has not had a kid enter in the nearly 40 years since it was opened. I'd say that's a pretty good track record. If you have raised a 4yo you realize just how dastardly they can be.

I had a 3yo kid wake up, get out of a crib, get past a room full of adults by crawling out of site, get past a locked door and walk into lake Erie. Thank *GOD* that she did an about face to end up screaming at the front door. We could have lost her.

I'm not going to lay into the mother, the kid, or the zoo.

Mother: Sometimes you blink your eyes and a kid can up and vanish. Turn to take a picture of one of your kids and the others can run wild. I've taken three kids to a zoo by myself 2,6,7... It's nerve racking. Now that they are 4,9,11 trips to the zoo museum are far easier.

Kid: 4yo's are way more inginutive then we give them credit for. Kid proofing stuff is more or less a losing battle passed 3 years old.

Zoo: Nearly 40 years without incident and when the kid was in danger they did not hesitate to put down the Gorilla.

1. I have a four year old daughter and she is a handful and yes, she can get into a lot of trouble in an instant.

2. I say it happened in an instant because the mother and another witness said it happened in an instant.

3. While I agree with you that all of the blame should not be placed on the zoo or the mother, I still see a reasonable amount of liability on the zoo.

(06-01-2016 11:39 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 11:01 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 09:45 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  The problem is, it's stupid people like the lady and her child that ruin everything for everyone else....

How does the Zoo move forward? more rules? redesigning animal cages? Will they get another gorilla?

you can only stupid-proof a zoo so much...eventually, you hope that the visitors will have enough common sense to not jump in cages with animals

Wrong. If a 3 or 4-year-old child can climb into a gorilla cage in an instant, then the zoo should be held responsible for not having secure facilities.

People go to the zoo with a reasonable expectation that their children will not fall into a cage.

And zoos open their gates with a reasonable expectation that parents will watch their children. The only "in an instant" we have is the mother saying it happened in "an instant". To her, it might have felt like an instant but it could have been 30 seconds which is a big enough chunk of time for a 4yo to get into about anything.

The exhibit has not had a kid enter in the nearly 40 years since it was opened. I'd say that's a pretty good track record. If you have raised a 4yo you realize just how dastardly they can be.

I had a 3yo kid wake up, get out of a crib, get past a room full of adults by crawling out of site, get past a locked door and walk into lake Erie. Thank *GOD* that she did an about face to end up screaming at the front door. We could have lost her.

I'm not going to lay into the mother, the kid, or the zoo.

Mother: Sometimes you blink your eyes and a kid can up and vanish. Turn to take a picture of one of your kids and the others can run wild. I've taken three kids to a zoo by myself 2,6,7... It's nerve racking. Now that they are 4,9,11 trips to the zoo museum are far easier.

Kid: 4yo's are way more inginutive then we give them credit for. Kid proofing stuff is more or less a losing battle passed 3 years old.

Zoo: Nearly 40 years without incident and when the kid was in danger they did not hesitate to put down the Gorilla.

1. I have a four year old daughter and she is a handful and yes, she can get into a lot of trouble in an instant.

2. I say it happened in an instant because the mother and another witness said it happened in an instant.

3. While I agree with you that all of the blame should not be placed on the zoo or the mother, I still see a reasonable amount of liability on the zoo.

Liability for what? The child wasn't harmed.

(06-01-2016 11:39 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  2. I say it happened in an instant because the mother and another witness said it happened in an instant.

Everything happens "in an instant" but there are a whole bunch of uninteresting "instants" which lead up to the one people remember.. This kid did not just appear on the other side. He looked around and found some kind of gap and then went through it. I guarantee you it took 10-20 seconds.

Quote:3. While I agree with you that all of the blame should not be placed on the zoo or the mother, I still see a reasonable amount of liability on the zoo.

why? 40 years no incidents until this kid. Why is it that regressives have so much trouble understanding sometimes shaq happens.