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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
DB coaching against the Owls in Sept. Wouldn't that be interesting.

Not going to happen, but it would be interesting.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 08:56 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  DB coaching against the Owls in Sept. Wouldn't that be interesting.

Not gong to happen, but it would be interesting.


Especially if Briles was on our sideline.

It would be an interesting experiment into how much difference the HC on the sidelines actually makes.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 08:33 AM)owl40 Wrote:  DB getting multiple mentions for HC job on Baylor Board..

http://baylor.247sports.com/Board/59417/...h-45534358

It's interesting to look at that board and the comments at this moment in time.
From what we have seen posted on this board about the shenanigans in Waco, it would seem that their football program is, indeed, staring into the abyss. One step away from re-visiting the old SWC doormat status. And a step and a half from death penalty a la SMU and PSU. In essence, they've traded their status as the oldest University in the state and a standard bearer for morality for a four or five year run at FOOTBALL success. And, seemingly, have turned a blind eye to morality in the process.
However, maybe it's us and the media that's mistaken. Reading the Baylor board comments makes me think that the average sports fan in Waco views the incident as purely a small bump in the road toward further on-field success. It's not that big of a deal.
Having said that, if the emphasis should be on a return to a program above reproach, David Bailiff is the kind of guy they might look to. With Big XII resources, he could surround himself with excellent assistants. Run a clean program. Regain respect. 'Don't see this happening. But interesting to see him in the conversation.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 08:33 AM)owl40 Wrote:  DB getting multiple mentions for HC job on Baylor Board..

http://baylor.247sports.com/Board/59417/...h-45534358

Did you read the responses?

"Not if we're serious about football."

"Would be a[n] epic fail"
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 09:20 AM)WIowl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 08:33 AM)owl40 Wrote:  DB getting multiple mentions for HC job on Baylor Board..

http://baylor.247sports.com/Board/59417/...h-45534358

Did you read the responses?

"Not if we're serious about football."

"Would be a[n] epic fail"


I read the responses.

Some for, some against.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 09:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 09:20 AM)WIowl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 08:33 AM)owl40 Wrote:  DB getting multiple mentions for HC job on Baylor Board..

http://baylor.247sports.com/Board/59417/...h-45534358

Did you read the responses?

"Not if we're serious about football."

"Would be a[n] epic fail"


I read the responses.

Some for, some against.


True. WIowl must have missed the other responses. Here are the other ones in regards to Bailiff:

- David Baliff (Certainly would fit the bill of good coach with no blemishes. ****, if he can recruit to Rice well, imagine with our resources)

and

- I know he is old (58) but why not David Bailif? He has a reputation for being a good man who runs a clean program. I believe he well exemplifies what Baylor represents and what we want to show the country what we are about.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 09:12 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  In essence, they've traded their status as the oldest University in the state and a standard bearer for morality for a four or five year run at FOOTBALL success.
Have people really thought of Baylor as an exceptionally moral institution? I don't think I've every heard anyone in any decade sayin any context (academic or athletic) "You know, Baylor is really one of the best when it comes to having high standards and doing things right." To be clear, outside athletics people probably have not thought of Baylor as exceptionally lacking in integrity, but I suspect they also have not thought of them as exceptionally having it. Moralistic certainly, but moral?
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
(05-29-2016 09:47 AM)ArmChairOwl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 09:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 09:20 AM)WIowl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 08:33 AM)owl40 Wrote:  DB getting multiple mentions for HC job on Baylor Board..

http://baylor.247sports.com/Board/59417/...h-45534358

Did you read the responses?

"Not if we're serious about football."

"Would be a[n] epic fail"


I read the responses.

Some for, some against.


True. WIowl must have missed the other responses. Here are the other ones in regards to Bailiff:

- David Baliff (Certainly would fit the bill of good coach with no blemishes. ****, if he can recruit to Rice well, imagine with our resources)

and

- I know he is old (58) but why not David Bailif? He has a reputation for being a good man who runs a clean program. I believe he well exemplifies what Baylor represents and what we want to show the country what we are about.
Please take him. I am really looking forward to a thread to fire his successor
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
Most Baylor people would not allow some of their athletes in their living rooms. Would you want them walking Rice campus? Seems folks who want to keep the so called Rice integrity talk out of both sides of their mouth.
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Chauncey Gardener/David Bailiff = charmed life

Quote: President "Bobby": Mr. Gardner, do you agree with Ben, or do you think that we can stimulate growth through temporary incentives?
[Long pause]
Chance the Gardener: As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.
President "Bobby": In the garden.
Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.
President "Bobby": Spring and summer.
Chance the Gardener: Yes.
President "Bobby": Then fall and winter.
Chance the Gardener: Yes.
Benjamin Rand: I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we're upset by the seasons of our economy.
Chance the Gardener: Yes! There will be growth in the spring!
Benjamin Rand: Hmm!
Chance the Gardener: Hmm!
President "Bobby": Hm. Well, Mr. Gardner, I must admit that is one of the most refreshing and optimistic statements I've heard in a very, very long time.
[Benjamin Rand applauds]
President "Bobby": I admire your good, solid sense. That's precisely what we lack on Capitol Hill.



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(05-29-2016 12:13 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Chauncey Gardener/David Bailiff = charmed life

Quote: President "Bobby": Mr. Gardner, do you agree with Ben, or do you think that we can stimulate growth through temporary incentives?
[Long pause]
Chance the Gardener: As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.
President "Bobby": In the garden.
Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.
President "Bobby": Spring and summer.
Chance the Gardener: Yes.
President "Bobby": Then fall and winter.
Chance the Gardener: Yes.
Benjamin Rand: I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we're upset by the seasons of our economy.
Chance the Gardener: Yes! There will be growth in the spring!
Benjamin Rand: Hmm!
Chance the Gardener: Hmm!
President "Bobby": Hm. Well, Mr. Gardner, I must admit that is one of the most refreshing and optimistic statements I've heard in a very, very long time.
[Benjamin Rand applauds]
President "Bobby": I admire your good, solid sense. That's precisely what we lack on Capitol Hill.




Say what?

Maybe I should have taken some more English classes, because I am having a hard time figuring out what that is supposed to mean.
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(05-29-2016 12:48 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Say what?

Maybe I should have taken some more English classes, because I am having a hard time figuring out what that is supposed to mean.

It won't make sense if you are not familiar with the film, and it won't make sense if are familiar with the film...which is the point.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
Former Wake HC Jim Grobe named new interim HC at Baylor.
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(05-30-2016 02:32 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Former Wake HC Jim Grobe named new interim HC at Baylor.

What a weird situation. By all accounts, Grobe and all of the assistants are out after this year. How do they stay motivated?

I'm not all that familiar with the nuances of the recruiting calendar, but how do they recruit for the next 7 months when recruits have no idea who the staff will be?
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I have seen the film. Chance is talking about gardening, which others think he is talking about the economy. Chance is a simpleton but the others mistake him for a wise leader.

(05-29-2016 12:56 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 12:48 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Say what?

Maybe I should have taken some more English classes, because I am having a hard time figuring out what that is supposed to mean.

It won't make sense if you are not familiar with the film, and it won't make sense if are familiar with the film...which is the point.
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RE: Report: Art Briles out at Baylor
They might have been better off keeping Bennett who was familar with the players and staff and had HC experience at SMU.

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Former Wake HC Jim Grobe named new interim HC at Baylor.
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From what I understand Bennett is still DC, Kendall Briles is still OC and the staff stays in place. Grobe will face the press, which will more than earn whatever he Is getting paid. I wouldn't want that part of the job.
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(05-30-2016 03:05 PM)Converted Rice Wrote:  From what I understand Bennett is still DC, Kendall Briles is still OC and the staff stays in place. Grobe will face the press, which will more than earn whatever he Is getting paid. I wouldn't want that part of the job.

Why is Kendall Briles sticking around if they just fired his dad? To hell with that!
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Maybe his dad is man enough to realize he screwed up even if his intentions were good, and doesn't want his son or his protégés to fall on their swords for something they were not really involved in. Or it could be the $650,000+ he will get for coaching. As to him being implicated - his name evidentially was not in the report.
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(05-30-2016 05:12 PM)Converted Rice Wrote:  Maybe hid dad is man enough to realize he screwed up even if hid intentions were good, Nd doesn't want his son or his protégés to fall on their swords for something they were not really involved in. Or it could be the $650,000+ he will get for coaching. As to him being implicated - his name evidentially was not in the report.

Right or wrong, I'm not sticking with an institution that just fired my own dad. That money means more to him than pride? If he's such a great coach, he should be able to land on his feet somewhere. I'd resign in a show of support to my father, but maybe that's just me.
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