(05-16-2016 07:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  list of 41 schools

OK. I'm stuck not doing anything right now. So I took the list, cut-and-pasted into google sheets, sorted alphabetically.

First of all, huge points off for not having St Thomas on the list of possible Division I schools. Yes, I know, St Thomas is Division III not Division II, but when you make a list of 40 Division 2 schools that might upgrade, and then throw in another one (Rogers STate), and you miss one of the 7 actual upgrades, that's not good.

Augustana University is also not on the list. I don't *think* the Summit is about to invite them, but they're definitely flirting.

I don't know that I have anything else to say about the rest of the list. It's just impressive to list 40 candidates for what turned out to be 7 (maybe 8) spots, and missed 1 (maybe 2) of the winning candidates.

(05-08-2020 06:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  list of 41 schools

OK. I'm stuck not doing anything right now. So I took the list, cut-and-pasted into google sheets, sorted alphabetically.

First of all, huge points off for not having St Thomas on the list of possible Division I schools. Yes, I know, St Thomas is Division III not Division II, but when you make a list of 40 Division 2 schools that might upgrade, and then throw in another one (Rogers STate), and you miss one of the 7 actual upgrades, that's not good.

Augustana University is also not on the list. I don't *think* the Summit is about to invite them, but they're definitely flirting.

I don't know that I have anything else to say about the rest of the list. It's just impressive to list 40 candidates for what turned out to be 7 (maybe 8) spots, and missed 1 (maybe 2) of the winning candidates.

A rumor has been that Augustana will buy U of Sioux Falls and build Medical School financed by Sanford. USF and AUgie are neighbors.

(05-08-2020 06:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  list of 41 schools

OK. I'm stuck not doing anything right now. So I took the list, cut-and-pasted into google sheets, sorted alphabetically.

First of all, huge points off for not having St Thomas on the list of possible Division I schools. Yes, I know, St Thomas is Division III not Division II, but when you make a list of 40 Division 2 schools that might upgrade, and then throw in another one (Rogers STate), and you miss one of the 7 actual upgrades, that's not good.

Augustana University is also not on the list. I don't *think* the Summit is about to invite them, but they're definitely flirting.

I don't know that I have anything else to say about the rest of the list. It's just impressive to list 40 candidates for what turned out to be 7 (maybe 8) spots, and missed 1 (maybe 2) of the winning candidates.

When I made this list, D3 schools can't make a jump to D1. That is why St. Thomas was excluded. If they get the okay to go to D1? Here are my list of the next D3 schools.

Rowan
Salisbury
Christopher-Newport
Mary Washington
Johns Hopkis

(05-08-2020 08:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 06:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  list of 41 schools

OK. I'm stuck not doing anything right now. So I took the list, cut-and-pasted into google sheets, sorted alphabetically.

First of all, huge points off for not having St Thomas on the list of possible Division I schools. Yes, I know, St Thomas is Division III not Division II, but when you make a list of 40 Division 2 schools that might upgrade, and then throw in another one (Rogers STate), and you miss one of the 7 actual upgrades, that's not good.

Augustana University is also not on the list. I don't *think* the Summit is about to invite them, but they're definitely flirting.

I don't know that I have anything else to say about the rest of the list. It's just impressive to list 40 candidates for what turned out to be 7 (maybe 8) spots, and missed 1 (maybe 2) of the winning candidates.

When I made this list, D3 schools can't make a jump to D1. That is why St. Thomas was excluded. If they get the okay to go to D1? Here are my list of the next D3 schools.

Rowan
Salisbury
Christopher-Newport
Mary Washington
Johns Hopkis

Can you please list the year you’re “predicting” them to start their D1 transition and the conference they will be joining?

Johns Hopkis is not transitioning, Johns Hopkins is...

(05-08-2020 11:08 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 08:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 06:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 07:33 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  list of 41 schools

OK. I'm stuck not doing anything right now. So I took the list, cut-and-pasted into google sheets, sorted alphabetically.

First of all, huge points off for not having St Thomas on the list of possible Division I schools. Yes, I know, St Thomas is Division III not Division II, but when you make a list of 40 Division 2 schools that might upgrade, and then throw in another one (Rogers STate), and you miss one of the 7 actual upgrades, that's not good.

Augustana University is also not on the list. I don't *think* the Summit is about to invite them, but they're definitely flirting.

I don't know that I have anything else to say about the rest of the list. It's just impressive to list 40 candidates for what turned out to be 7 (maybe 8) spots, and missed 1 (maybe 2) of the winning candidates.

When I made this list, D3 schools can't make a jump to D1. That is why St. Thomas was excluded. If they get the okay to go to D1? Here are my list of the next D3 schools.

Rowan
Salisbury
Christopher-Newport
Mary Washington
Johns Hopkis

Can you please list the year you’re “predicting” them to start their D1 transition and the conference they will be joining?

To be fair, in this thread he actually stuck to to the title and listed only D2 school. Yes, in other threads he has listed JUCOs and non-athletics schools for D1 while generally ignoring D3 schools.

He says he didn't include D3 schools because it was against the rules for them to jump to D1 but argues the NCAA COULD give a waiver for every other rule in the book that suits his narrative.

The popular reason he gives for schools to go D1 is so they will get more recognition. Some schools don't need to be D1 to get more recognition; Johns Hopkins and MIT are "lowly" D3 schools and yet are known world-wide.

The only reason he is now listing Christopher Newport, Mary Washington, and Salisbury is because they are the only schools left in their D3 conference.

(05-08-2020 11:15 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Johns Hopkis is not transitioning, Johns Hopkins is...

So would they transition to Janes Hopkins?

(05-24-2016 09:53 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Former D1 schools that could come back up.

...

New York Tech'

...

The school has suspended athletics for at least two years and withdrawn from the NCAA. So much for this "brilliant prediction". Will DavidSt concede he was wrong?

(10-13-2020 06:45 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:53 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Former D1 schools that could come back up.

...

New York Tech'

...

The school has suspended athletics for at least two years and withdrawn from the NCAA. So much for this "brilliant prediction". Will DavidSt concede he was wrong?

https://nyitbears.com/news/2020/8/20/gen...grams.aspx

(05-09-2020 01:07 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 11:15 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Johns Hopkis is not transitioning, Johns Hopkins is...

So would they transition to Janes Hopkins?

I identify as Bilbo Hopkinssis

My alma mater, Queens University of Charlotte, has been adding programs like crazy the last few years. It makes me think that they are at least exploring D1 athletics (non-football).

(11-14-2018 06:27 PM)3BNole Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 04:46 PM)KingSean Wrote:  I feel like we can list 3,000 reasons why they cant , wont or shouldn't but it's all up to the schools

Exactly, that’s my point. Our neithbor’s brother is the athletic director. I sat in his seats for the West Georgia game Saturday. They studied it internally not too long ago and it’s not happening.

i feel like they are more afraid to move up. its sad really because they would be pretty good. i feel like most schools who are successful at the d2 level needs to move up. the whole "they are in financial trouble" could be used for 98% of schools at any level.

With the news of realignment going, the trickle down effect will get more D2 schools to come up. I took out the ones who made the jump, and added new names. We can look at who else will make the jump.

(05-17-2016 04:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Francis Marion isn't looking to move up to DI

Their baseball and softball facilities are really nice basketball arena is pretty good. I could see it working if they were in Florence rather than the country side .

(09-18-2021 09:20 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(05-17-2016 04:37 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Francis Marion isn't looking to move up to DI

Their baseball and softball facilities are really nice basketball arena is pretty good. I could see it working if they were in Florence rather than the country side .

Keep in mind that post is from 65 months ago.

With the news that Texas A&M-Commerce going to get an invite to join the Southland? This is going be some major shake ups.

But, we also got this news out of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Lawmakers To Debate Creating An All Oklahoma Conference

It looks like schools from GAC. MIAA and Lone Star are going to be an a conference for all Oklahoma. That would be a big problem. NW Oklahoma State is much more closer to the RMAC schools than NE Oklahoma State. Northwest Oklahoma State could be much better bennifiting in the RMAC. Alva is more near the front range than the Ozarks.

But, I could see if this does happen? With the public and private Oklahoma schools plus any NAIA Oklahoma schools have a landing spot? I predict some defections to D1 big time. GAC will be down to 6. It will be hard to find good replacements.

These are the schools that I could see make the move to D1.
Central Oklahoma
NE Oklahoma State
Arkansas Tech
UAFS
Harding
SW Oklahoma State

NCAA D1 made exceptions for special cases.

UCO Southland
NE Oklahoma State Southland
Arkansas Tech Southland
UAFS Summit
Harding Southland
SW Oklahoma State Southland

Rogers State could go to the Summit as well.

(09-25-2021 06:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the news that Texas A&M-Commerce going to get an invite to join the Southland? This is going be some major shake ups.

But, we also got this news out of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Lawmakers To Debate Creating An All Oklahoma Conference

It looks like schools from GAC. MIAA and Lone Star are going to be an a conference for all Oklahoma. That would be a big problem. NW Oklahoma State is much more closer to the RMAC schools than NE Oklahoma State. Northwest Oklahoma State could be much better bennifiting in the RMAC. Alva is more near the front range than the Ozarks.

But, I could see if this does happen? With the public and private Oklahoma schools plus any NAIA Oklahoma schools have a landing spot? I predict some defections to D1 big time. GAC will be down to 6. It will be hard to find good replacements.

These are the schools that I could see make the move to D1.
Central Oklahoma
NE Oklahoma State
Arkansas Tech
UAFS
Harding
SW Oklahoma State

NCAA D1 made exceptions for special cases.

UCO Southland
NE Oklahoma State Southland
Arkansas Tech Southland
UAFS Summit
Harding Southland
SW Oklahoma State Southland

Rogers State could go to the Summit as well.

You list every directional Oklahoma school plus Arkansas Tech. Now that’s a horrible group of schools for the Slummit. Yes, even the Slummit.

(09-25-2021 08:24 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 06:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the news that Texas A&M-Commerce going to get an invite to join the Southland? This is going be some major shake ups.

But, we also got this news out of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Lawmakers To Debate Creating An All Oklahoma Conference

It looks like schools from GAC. MIAA and Lone Star are going to be an a conference for all Oklahoma. That would be a big problem. NW Oklahoma State is much more closer to the RMAC schools than NE Oklahoma State. Northwest Oklahoma State could be much better bennifiting in the RMAC. Alva is more near the front range than the Ozarks.

But, I could see if this does happen? With the public and private Oklahoma schools plus any NAIA Oklahoma schools have a landing spot? I predict some defections to D1 big time. GAC will be down to 6. It will be hard to find good replacements.

These are the schools that I could see make the move to D1.
Central Oklahoma
NE Oklahoma State
Arkansas Tech
UAFS
Harding
SW Oklahoma State

NCAA D1 made exceptions for special cases.

UCO Southland
NE Oklahoma State Southland
Arkansas Tech Southland
UAFS Summit
Harding Southland
SW Oklahoma State Southland

Rogers State could go to the Summit as well.

You list every directional Oklahoma school plus Arkansas Tech. Now that’s a horrible group of schools for the Slummit. Yes, even the Slummit.

Is there a certain point at which we stop saying even the summit?
Four flagship and land grants.
State university's in big cities. ( Omaha is kind of big)
Couple of fancy private schools in big cities. Denver and St Thomas.
And you have two relative embarrassments in oral Roberts and Western Illinois.
They may not be able to play sports worth a damn, but that's not a bad group of universities to be in

(09-25-2021 08:48 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 08:24 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 06:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the news that Texas A&M-Commerce going to get an invite to join the Southland? This is going be some major shake ups.

But, we also got this news out of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Lawmakers To Debate Creating An All Oklahoma Conference

It looks like schools from GAC. MIAA and Lone Star are going to be an a conference for all Oklahoma. That would be a big problem. NW Oklahoma State is much more closer to the RMAC schools than NE Oklahoma State. Northwest Oklahoma State could be much better bennifiting in the RMAC. Alva is more near the front range than the Ozarks.

But, I could see if this does happen? With the public and private Oklahoma schools plus any NAIA Oklahoma schools have a landing spot? I predict some defections to D1 big time. GAC will be down to 6. It will be hard to find good replacements.

These are the schools that I could see make the move to D1.
Central Oklahoma
NE Oklahoma State
Arkansas Tech
UAFS
Harding
SW Oklahoma State

NCAA D1 made exceptions for special cases.

UCO Southland
NE Oklahoma State Southland
Arkansas Tech Southland
UAFS Summit
Harding Southland
SW Oklahoma State Southland

Rogers State could go to the Summit as well.

You list every directional Oklahoma school plus Arkansas Tech. Now that’s a horrible group of schools for the Slummit. Yes, even the Slummit.

Is there a certain point at which we stop saying even the summit?
Four flagship and land grants.
State university's in big cities. ( Omaha is kind of big)
Couple of fancy private schools in big cities. Denver and St Thomas.
And you have two relative embarrassments in oral Roberts and Western Illinois.
They may not be able to play sports worth a damn, but that's not a bad group of universities to be in

He thought I said them all to the Summit. UAFS is a large city that could fit the Summit and is close to Oral Roberts. I said the others to Southland.

(09-25-2021 10:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 08:48 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 08:24 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-25-2021 06:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the news that Texas A&M-Commerce going to get an invite to join the Southland? This is going be some major shake ups.

But, we also got this news out of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma Lawmakers To Debate Creating An All Oklahoma Conference

It looks like schools from GAC. MIAA and Lone Star are going to be an a conference for all Oklahoma. That would be a big problem. NW Oklahoma State is much more closer to the RMAC schools than NE Oklahoma State. Northwest Oklahoma State could be much better bennifiting in the RMAC. Alva is more near the front range than the Ozarks.

But, I could see if this does happen? With the public and private Oklahoma schools plus any NAIA Oklahoma schools have a landing spot? I predict some defections to D1 big time. GAC will be down to 6. It will be hard to find good replacements.

These are the schools that I could see make the move to D1.
Central Oklahoma
NE Oklahoma State
Arkansas Tech
UAFS
Harding
SW Oklahoma State

NCAA D1 made exceptions for special cases.

UCO Southland
NE Oklahoma State Southland
Arkansas Tech Southland
UAFS Summit
Harding Southland
SW Oklahoma State Southland

Rogers State could go to the Summit as well.

You list every directional Oklahoma school plus Arkansas Tech. Now that’s a horrible group of schools for the Slummit. Yes, even the Slummit.

Is there a certain point at which we stop saying even the summit?
Four flagship and land grants.
State university's in big cities. ( Omaha is kind of big)
Couple of fancy private schools in big cities. Denver and St Thomas.
And you have two relative embarrassments in oral Roberts and Western Illinois.
They may not be able to play sports worth a damn, but that's not a bad group of universities to be in

He thought I said them all to the Summit. UAFS is a large city that could fit the Summit and is close to Oral Roberts. I said the others to Southland.

UA fort Smith? Does fort Smith strike you as a metropolis on the plane of Kansas City or Omaha?