Quote:P.S. I didn't live through it, lol, but I read of the decline of the Roman Empire.

I lived through it. It wasn't that bad. You still got to watch Big Ten football on ESPN. But back then, there were only ten teams, and no ESPN2.

details of the new CUSA deal are trickling out and it doesn't look good.

Here's the official release with no revenue mentioned- http://www.conferenceusa.com/genrel/052516aad.html

Here's speculation of the revenue by a Herd beat reporter- https://twitter.com/dougsmock/status/735480817061793792


If I'm reading that right he's saying the new deal is worth $3.5M/yr for 2 yrs. That comes out to $250K/yr per school. Ouch.

The MAC and AAC each have TV deals that over their duration are worth $125 million.

CUSA ends up with a deal worth 7 million over its duration. That is Sun Belt money. As it should be since its SBC teams.

From what I understand though is Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP are getting paid from the departing AAC schools because the terms are that if the next CUSA TV deal was to go down in value, the left behind schools would be paid the difference from the escrow accounts of Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, East Carolina, Houston and SMU. A 750k a year payment to Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP to make up for the loss in TV revenue.

And the current deal sets the maximum buyout to leave the CUSA by current members, which seems like it is going way down.

CUSA today is just above the old Sunbelt. The money is likely right for the schools left. The Mac is sitting pretty for the next few years.. I think the AAC will extend its $$$ advantage in the next go round.

The new world order:
AAC
MWC
Mac
Cusa
Belt

(05-25-2016 11:33 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The MAC and AAC each have TV deals that over their duration are worth $125 million.

CUSA ends up with a deal worth 7 million over its duration. That is Sun Belt money. As it should be since its SBC teams.

The duration is what 2 years for the CUSA deal?

Quote:From what I understand though is Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP are getting paid from the departing AAC schools because the terms are that if the next CUSA TV deal was to go down in value, the left behind schools would be paid the difference from the escrow accounts of Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, East Carolina, Houston and SMU. A 750k a year payment to Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP to make up for the loss in TV revenue.

I had heard, perhaps incorrectly, that the former members (at least Memphis) wiggled out of this..

(05-27-2016 08:26 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  CUSA today is just above the old Sunbelt. The money is likely right for the schools left. The Mac is sitting pretty for the next few years.. I think the AAC will extend its $$$ advantage in the next go round.

The new world order:
AAC
MWC
Mac
Cusa
Belt

Hooray, we are the third tallest little person in the room filled with giants.

(05-25-2016 11:33 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  .

From what I understand though is Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP are getting paid from the departing AAC schools because the terms are that if the next CUSA TV deal was to go down in value, the left behind schools would be paid the difference from the escrow accounts of Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, East Carolina, Houston and SMU. A 750k a year payment to Marshall, SoMiss, UAB, Rice and UTEP to make up for the loss in TV revenue.

If memory is correct we are stuck for 5 years. For the first wave schools like UCF, 3 are in rear view, and 2 left to go. So The $$$ they get is very much temporary.

CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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(06-08-2016 07:38 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

(06-09-2016 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 07:38 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

I'm sure it's on their mind now!

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(06-09-2016 11:27 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 07:38 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

I'm sure it's on their mind now!

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It is! I was on their board yesterday and a couple of Marshall Fans was doing just that...

(06-09-2016 11:39 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:27 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 07:38 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

I'm sure it's on their mind now!

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It is! I was on their board yesterday and a couple of Marshall Fans was doing just that...

I saw that "the AAC where Marshall belongs" and literally LOL'ed at work. It was pretty bad

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Just curious...

But is this site the most active forum for MAC sports enthusiasts? It's been awfully quiet on here since basketball ended.

(06-09-2016 12:23 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious...

But is this site the most active forum for MAC sports enthusiasts? It's been awfully quiet on here since basketball ended.

I've certainly scaled back my time on this forum since basketball season has come to an end. I occasionally stop by to lurk and see what's happening, but there really hasn't been much newsworthy IMO to discuss.

(06-09-2016 12:23 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious...

But is this site the most active forum for MAC sports enthusiasts? It's been awfully quiet on here since basketball ended.

That's when the interesting sports end.

That's right. Most people don't follow sports if ESPN doesn't feed it to them. Hard to get their attention. That's also why the MAC is in the second tier position it is in. The mass market sports of CFB and D1 basketball dominate and the MAC (and the rest of of the non- power conferences) are more or less relegated to Washington Generals status.

I'm pleased with the volume of discussions I see relating to the Ohio Bobcats online, even with it being the offseason.

(06-09-2016 11:41 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:39 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:27 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 07:38 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  CUSA board is a dark, dark place right now...

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Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

I'm sure it's on their mind now!

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It is! I was on their board yesterday and a couple of Marshall Fans was doing just that...

I saw that "the AAC where Marshall belongs" and literally LOL'ed at work. It was pretty bad

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When Marshall was in CUSA with the teams that are now in AAC, they could not compete , Now in current CUSA they are one of CUSA power schools, they are now in the right place.

(06-14-2016 07:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:41 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:39 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 11:27 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 10:10 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Have the CUSA fans joined you in pimping their schools on the AAC board?

I'm sure it's on their mind now!

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It is! I was on their board yesterday and a couple of Marshall Fans was doing just that...

I saw that "the AAC where Marshall belongs" and literally LOL'ed at work. It was pretty bad

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When Marshall was in CUSA with the teams that are now in AAC, they could not compete , Now in current CUSA they are one of CUSA power schools, they are now in the right place.

That is not a fair assessment. The power level of a school often goes up and down. Case in point:
When UCF was in the MAC, they could not compete. When they moved to CUSA, they immediately turned into one of the top teams. Then when they moved to the Big East they were even better, but when the Big East dissolved into the AAC, UCF no longer could compete.

So does UCF need to go to the Sun Belt so that they can be on top again? No. They just need to rebuild like what Marshall had to do in the late 2000's.