(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point.

Beyond protest? This is exactly how liberals encourage protest.

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

Something says that you wouldn't feel the same way if this was conservatives protesting a liberal establishment. Like, say, Planned Parenthood. Or global warming hysterics. Or Black Lives Matter.

(04-20-2016 04:05 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 09:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 07:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  1) his farm, his cow, he's welcome to feed it to his family if he wants.
2) protester has their rights, too, and should be allowed to protest to their hearts content.

that's my opinion...moving on.

Do you have the right to make someone else's life a living hell in an attempt to impose your beliefs on them?

ON


POINT

and the answer is yes...if you think calling or emailing a business is a living hell...that's 100% your right.

(04-20-2016 04:08 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point.

Beyond protest? This is exactly how liberals encourage protest.

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

Something says that you wouldn't feel the same way if this was conservatives protesting a liberal establishment. Like, say, Planned Parenthood. Or global warming hysterics. Or Black Lives Matter.

as always, you're wrong when you ASSume...try again.

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 09:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 07:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  1) his farm, his cow, he's welcome to feed it to his family if he wants.
2) protester has their rights, too, and should be allowed to protest to their hearts content.

that's my opinion...moving on.

Do you have the right to make someone else's life a living hell in an attempt to impose your beliefs on them?

when protesting off property equals that mess you typed out...let me know, lol

Read the article moron.

Quote:Benner said he is nearly overwhelmed with angry, sometimes obscene, phone calls, Facebook posts, bad reviews on his web page and threats on his family.

Quote:In a scenario now familiar to many farmers, Benner and his family are now being constantly harassed.

"We are getting nasty e-mails, warnings, and being threatened, " he said. For now, the peaceful and meaningful way of life they built together has been shattered. It is not clear when and if they can get it back.

Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point. Of course it typically does when you crybaby leftists don't get your way.

No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

So, you're cool with social media warriors ruining this guy, just because they can?

I don't see why this has to turn into some kind of rights argument. For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ******** because they are, in fact, pretentious ********.

Hmm, didn't really expect the entire swear to be blocked out.

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  I don't see why this has to turn into some kind of rights argument. For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ******** because they are, in fact, pretentious ********.

Hmm, didn't really expect the entire swear to be blocked out.

No, UofMemphis must be diametrically opposed to all that makes sense, no mater the subject.

(04-19-2016 04:59 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.bedlamfarm.com/2016/04/18/ano...e-farmers/

Quote:Benner and his family have learned how to do something that is increasingly difficult in modern times – live off of their 15-acre farm in affluent, crowded Long Island since 1977. "We learned, made, and had our own heat. We made our own food. We made our own clothing. We raised a garden," said Benner, who is 75.

In a rational world, this would be considered heroic, especially in our time, where such independence and self-sufficiency and respect for the environment is almost unheard of. We talk about sustainability all the time, the Benners are living it. We talk about keeping animals among us, and finding value in them. He is doing that.

Quote:Benner and his wife Jean have also figured out how to make his family farm an attraction to the urbanized community around him. With a family of six to feed, he kept refining his budget and began raising some of his farm animals as a source of food. His farm offers strawberry picking, birthday parties and class trips for schoolchildren.

Opening his farm up has threatened it in an ugly way. On April 2, Jean Benner was taking a birthday party group on an educational tour of the farm, answering questions about what it is like to live on a farm. They met Minnie the cow.

A housewife and mother named Kimberly Sherriton asked about the fate of Minnie and was told she would be used to feed the Benner family.

Sherriton was upset, she said she would find a sanctuary where Minnie could live out her life.

Jean Benner tried to explain the difference between an animal on a farm and a pet, explaining that the farm was a homestead where animals have been raised for meat since 1751. "We grow and produce food for our family on our property," said Benner. That is how the family is able to keep their farm going.

When she learned that the two-year-old cow will be going to slaughter to help feed the Benner family, Sherriton organized a series of protests outside of the Benner farm to demand that the cow be spared. She started a petition on change.org and collection more than 2,000 signatures and opened a Facebook Page to save the cow that has more than 700 supporters.

Benner said he is nearly overwhelmed with angry, sometimes obscene, phone calls, Facebook posts, bad reviews on his web page and threats on his family.

"There have been literally thousands of people who have supported us," said Benner, "and a majority of them live right here in the community," he said. "The people who are trying to impose their values on us do not live here. We're talking about a national group of people who have a direction – they're trying to tell us how to live."

Sherriton's comments to the media shocked me, even by the very low standards of animal rights rhetoric and lobbying.

"He doesn't need this cow to survive and feed his family," Sherriton told a reporter for FiOS1 news. "He puts a sob story on there. Please, tell him to go to Whole Foods and go get some antibiotic -free beef there."

Quote:Sherriton apparently does not know that the meat Whole Foods sells also comes from animals, just like Minnie. These animals may or may not be fed and raised differently, although grass-fed cows from small farms have far better lives than any cow on any factory or corporate farm.

Quote:As common as it is, there is still something shocking about the idea that a complete stranger can enter the life of a farmer or any citizen, tell him how to live his life and what to eat and where to buy it, and through the use of cheap and often mindless technology, threaten his family, livelihood, peace of mind and way of life. The attack on the carriage horses was also an attack on the idea of freedom, of living one's life freely and within the law and without persecution.

The animal rights movement was founded in the 1970's as an animal liberation movement, its primary focus was on the industrialized factory farms where nine billion animals live, many under horrific conditions. Those conditions have only worsened, the animal rights movement has not shut down a single one, even as they harass struggling farmers carrying out a way of life that has existed for centuries. The idea that farmers or anyone who choose to raise their animals humanely should be forced to shop at Whole Foods rather than eat the food they raise and grow is staggering.

No one who knows a single thing about farming would ever suggest that, it would not be possible for most farmers to even afford it.

Sadly for animals, the animal rights movement has, in so many ways, and so often, become a series of hate groups functioning well outside of reason and the law, or with any real knowledge of what animals need. They reject science in every form – behaviorists, trainers, biologists. They are strangers to truth or facts. Their assaults, like the one on Benner, are often purely emotional, based on nothing but anger and manufactured re-inventions about animal abuse.

Fell for this one too I see. LMFAO

#stopfarmershaming
#farmerslivesmatter

Oh wait, I forgot that farmers are #acceptabletargets

(04-19-2016 04:59 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.bedlamfarm.com/2016/04/18/ano...e-farmers/

Quote:"He doesn't need this cow to survive and feed his family," Sherriton told a reporter for FiOS1 news. "He puts a sob story on there. Please, tell him to go to Whole Foods and go get some antibiotic -free beef there."

Beef from Whole Foods doesn't come for a cow... DUH!!! It comes from the grocery store.

(04-20-2016 07:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  #stopfarmershaming
#farmerslivesmatter

Oh wait, I forgot that farmers are #acceptabletargets

For most modern liberals it’s just not cool to work with your hands unless you are making "art."

(04-21-2016 09:28 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 07:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  #stopfarmershaming
#farmerslivesmatter

Oh wait, I forgot that farmers are #acceptabletargets

For most modern liberals it’s just not cool to work with your hands unless you are making "art."

So you know 'most' modern liberals, do you.


I don't know. If this is real, this woman is misguided at best. And undoubtedly a yankee.

If it's horseshit, then the panties in perpetual wad crowd will have gotten them in a twist over nothing, again.

(04-20-2016 05:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 09:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Do you have the right to make someone else's life a living hell in an attempt to impose your beliefs on them?

when protesting off property equals that mess you typed out...let me know, lol

Read the article moron.

Quote:Benner said he is nearly overwhelmed with angry, sometimes obscene, phone calls, Facebook posts, bad reviews on his web page and threats on his family.

Quote:In a scenario now familiar to many farmers, Benner and his family are now being constantly harassed.

"We are getting nasty e-mails, warnings, and being threatened, " he said. For now, the peaceful and meaningful way of life they built together has been shattered. It is not clear when and if they can get it back.

Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point. Of course it typically does when you crybaby leftists don't get your way.

No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

So, you're cool with social media warriors ruining this guy, just because they can?

I'm cool with the public deciding whether or not they want to make use of his business (simple capitalism), and I support the right to peaceful protest.

posting on facebook, emails, and phone calls seem pretty peaceful to me...when they (protesters) show up with pitchforks and torches, let me know.

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ********

sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

(04-21-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ********

sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

Thanks for your insightful analysis, Mr. Barrister.

(04-21-2016 09:56 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ********

sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

Thanks for your insightful analysis, Mr. Barrister.

one of my favorite lines from The American President

Quote: "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

I agree with this...you want freedom of speech? OK, but that means the pretentious ******** gets it too...and we just have to deal with that.

(04-21-2016 10:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:56 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ********

sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

Thanks for your insightful analysis, Mr. Barrister.

one of my favorite lines from The American President

Quote: "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

I agree with this...you want freedom of speech? OK, but that means the pretentious ******** gets it too...and we just have to deal with that.

Yea, you totally reached the depths of the simple point I was trying to make. Well done. You even threw in a line from a movie. Good job. The cookie is on its way.

(04-21-2016 10:13 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 10:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:56 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  For the sake of Spin Room style ecumenical friendship, can't we all just admit these oxygen thief protestors are pretentious ********

sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

Thanks for your insightful analysis, Mr. Barrister.

one of my favorite lines from The American President

Quote: "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

I agree with this...you want freedom of speech? OK, but that means the pretentious ******** gets it too...and we just have to deal with that.

Yea, you totally reached the depths of the simple point I was trying to make. Well done. You even threw in a line from a movie. Good job. The cookie is on its way.

did you say...

(04-21-2016 10:15 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 10:13 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 10:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:56 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  sure, why not...but that isn't illegal.

Thanks for your insightful analysis, Mr. Barrister.

one of my favorite lines from The American President

Quote: "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

I agree with this...you want freedom of speech? OK, but that means the pretentious ******** gets it too...and we just have to deal with that.

Yea, you totally reached the depths of the simple point I was trying to make. Well done. You even threw in a line from a movie. Good job. The cookie is on its way.

did you say...

Fair enough

(04-21-2016 09:38 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  when protesting off property equals that mess you typed out...let me know, lol

Read the article moron.

Quote:Benner said he is nearly overwhelmed with angry, sometimes obscene, phone calls, Facebook posts, bad reviews on his web page and threats on his family.

Quote:In a scenario now familiar to many farmers, Benner and his family are now being constantly harassed.

"We are getting nasty e-mails, warnings, and being threatened, " he said. For now, the peaceful and meaningful way of life they built together has been shattered. It is not clear when and if they can get it back.

Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point. Of course it typically does when you crybaby leftists don't get your way.

No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

So, you're cool with social media warriors ruining this guy, just because they can?

I'm cool with the public deciding whether or not they want to make use of his business (simple capitalism), and I support the right to peaceful protest.

posting on facebook, emails, and phone calls seem pretty peaceful to me...when they (protesters) show up with pitchforks and torches, let me know.

So let me ask you this, if someone threatens another person in an email or facebook post, it's ok?

(04-21-2016 10:19 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 09:38 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 05:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Read the article moron.



Seems it has gone beyond protest at this point. Of course it typically does when you crybaby leftists don't get your way.

No one is required to open an email or have a phone line...businesses normally do to have contact with the public...that's what happens when you do things people don't like...they call/email their complaints or concerns...I shouldn't have to explain that.

So, you're cool with social media warriors ruining this guy, just because they can?

I'm cool with the public deciding whether or not they want to make use of his business (simple capitalism), and I support the right to peaceful protest.

posting on facebook, emails, and phone calls seem pretty peaceful to me...when they (protesters) show up with pitchforks and torches, let me know.

So let me ask you this, if someone threatens another person in an email or facebook post, it's ok?

I would think at that point a crime has been committed, and it should then become a matter for the police...I'll let them decide if a charge is warranted.