You'd think MD would love F+, it had 2 MAC teams in the top 25 at the end of the year. Only other G5 teams were one AAC and one CUSA team. In fact the MAC had the second highest average F+ of the G5s, with the AAC leading the way.

But remember it's bad. MD said so.

(04-16-2016 09:45 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  You'd think MD would love F+, it had 2 MAC teams in the top 25 at the end of the year. Only other G5 teams were one AAC and one CUSA team. In fact the MAC had the second highest average F+ of the G5s, with the AAC leading the way.

But remember it's bad. MD said so.

It just has had a very very bad track record is all I am saying. Not just bad, very bad

(04-16-2016 03:12 PM)NIUpride Wrote:  ESPN has released its preseason FPI.
FPI rankings predict WMU with 9 wins and NIU with 7 wins.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...&year=2016
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...&year=2016

Per FPI WMU has 73% chance of winning the Sat, Oct 8 NIU game.
There is a good reason the games are actually played.

And think about how insane it is to try and project how a season of college football will go BEFORE anything happens. From a very very very limited set of information, it attempts to give you an idea of what probably should happen.

What's funny is that all but two of those games are in the green, so you could argue that the computers think NIU SHOULD win 10 games, but are guessing all won't go as it should.

(04-16-2016 10:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 09:45 PM)niusfactuary Wrote:  You'd think MD would love F+, it had 2 MAC teams in the top 25 at the end of the year. Only other G5 teams were one AAC and one CUSA team. In fact the MAC had the second highest average F+ of the G5s, with the AAC leading the way.

But remember it's bad. MD said so.

It just has had a very very bad track record is all I am saying. Not just bad, very bad

Nope, it hasn't.

Run all the stats you want, the human condition with screw everything up anyways lol.

(04-16-2016 10:44 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 10:36 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 09:36 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Can you imagine NIU with all that talent? Yes I know talent does not win ball games but it would sure help our coaching staff.

I don't believe talent helps NIUs coaching staff. NIU has more talent on offense than any team in the MAC yet our coaching staff doesn't know how or is afraid to use it

Yeah all those constant wins over WMU and Toledo just goes to show how much our staff sucks

DPN - which side are you on? I remember you went to the dark side after the Boise State debacle. Have you switched back to the pro-Carey camp after an off season of yoga and meditation?

(04-16-2016 07:06 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Id highly encourage anyway to stay away from F/+, there is not a poorer stat out there, it is completely meaningless and has never done a good job.

There is not a bigger endorsement of a rating system than you trashing it.

Much like KenPom, I'll continue to use advanced metrics when assessing teams, which means I'll continue to look at F +/-, FEI, etc. You are free to continue using metrics that led you to the conclusion that Jacksonville State was going to beat Michigan State a couple years ago.

I'd like to remind you: you are the same guy that claimed a) Michigan State was the most overrated Top 5 team in college football history last year (they then went 12-2) and b) you called North Carolina "really, really bad" in about Week 3 (they went 11-3). You'll have to excuse us if our idea of what constitutes an accurate assessment of teams differs from yours.

Don't forget about him hyping up Ohio State as one of the best teams ever entering last season and his prediction of Ole Miss dismantling Memphis.

(04-16-2016 09:36 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Can you imagine NIU with all that talent? Yes I know talent does not win ball games but it would sure help our coaching staff.

What are you talking about? NIU does have that much talent compared to WMU

(04-16-2016 07:28 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  yeah but Cubit's boat was taking on water and he didn't have any oars.

He didn't have any oars because he didn't realize he was on a boat, or that any rowing needed to be done. Totally unprepared.

Cubit was on a horse and I guess it's mother wasn't a mudder.