This is the sort of statement that used to come out of our AD's office. We got rid of that. It would be nice if our conference got rid of that too and hires someone who actually relays information.
(04-11-2016 03:28 PM)rknj8993 Wrote: My gut would tell me the vote went this way:
Yes to satellite camps: App, Georgia State, Arkansas State, Idaho
No to satellite camps: Georgia Southern, South Alabama, Troy, ULL, Texas State, ULM, maybe NMSU
Those who are in more talent rich areas (southern Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas) don't want other schools stealing players from their backyards. Those who need to recruit elsewhere (most of North Carolina, Arkansas, northern Georgia) likely voted yes as they need these satellite camps to be able to find recruits from these fertile grounds. Also, any school that is on the outskirts of their conference (looking at App and Arkansas State) have more to lose here, as they will have to travel more to see recruits in these fertile areas or tell them to pay for the trip on their own. Not a good decision on behalf of the Sun Belt, though, as the Alabamas and Clemsons of the south will now gain a little more footing since prospects won't be traveling quite as much.
I doubt Louisiana voted no to satellite camps, Hud has been doing them for years. We had um in Shreveport, NOLA and I think Texas.
We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2016 11:58 AM by The4thOption.)
From what I can gather App was never asked what our stance was on the issue. I believe someone else had something similar to say about their school as well. It sounds like this was a decision that came from the League Office and/or the Conference rep. without input from all schools. Nearly every school in the conference had some sort of satellite camp so clearly they aren't against them.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
How does being restricted to campus help UL,ULM, Troy, TXST, Coastal?
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
How does being restricted to campus help UL,ULM, Troy, TXST, Coastal?
TXST apparently thinks they'll get the Texans that Nebraska will no longer be able to get.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
How does being restricted to campus help UL,ULM, Troy, TXST, Coastal?
TXST apparently thinks they'll get the Texans that Nebraska will no longer be able to get.
Are you bored and just pulling statements out of a hat now?
TXST doesn't hold out of state camps but we do hold them in cities where the have nots can get to one. I don't recall anyone saying we are grabbing anyone from any school but we do find talent. There have been many guys we offered 1st (because of camps) then the big boys would look into them and offer. We'll get some, one day. Probably a long way off but you have to start somewhere in establishing how well you can spot talent and recruit players, then get to the level of them sticking with your program.
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(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
How does being restricted to campus help UL,ULM, Troy, TXST, Coastal?
TXST apparently thinks they'll get the Texans that Nebraska will no longer be able to get.
Are you bored and just pulling statements out of a hat now?
TXST doesn't hold out of state camps but we do hold them in cities where the have nots can get to one. I don't recall anyone saying we are grabbing anyone from any school but we do find talent. There have been many guys we offered 1st (because of camps) then the big boys would look into them and offer. We'll get some, one day. Probably a long way off but you have to start somewhere in establishing how well you can spot talent and recruit players, then get to the level of them sticking with your program.
I just made up a reason why your guy would vote for stupid. I didn't expect anyone to take it seriously.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
So...why aren't there good football players in BFE North Carolina?
Maybe Georgia Southern can do like UGA and get a law written to address this problem.
"In order to ensure that as many taxpayer funded scholarships as possible are made available to the residents of Georgia, institutions must hold satellite camps within the state that can reasonably reach all citizens".
The NCAA can't force us to be in violation of a law. Come on Tyson Summers, let's see if you can pull a Kirby.
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2016 06:59 AM by GSU Eagles.)
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
1. So you are making the point that satellite camps are not needed and you will do just fine without them. So why the belly ache? oh yea, its about the kids.
2. I thought the FL recruiting was fairly new. Wasn't it because of one of your newer coaches having connection in FL that allowed you to tap into that area?
3. Basically you are saying you got squat in NC and have to rely heavily on recruits from other states. Stay outta my yard you dang hillbilly!
GS mostly recruits instate, but have recently (like last year year and this year) been hitting SC hard for prospects. We usually get some FL and AL too just due to the short distance. I'm not really against satellite campls, but I think it was getting a little out of hand. The B1G (especially UM, I mean PSU really got this board talking when GSU hosted them) pushed it too far and the ACC and SEC pushed back hard. I think the ruling sounds like a parent when the kids start whining about something, the response is "Enough! Now no one gets any candy and stay in your rooms!" This rule seems to be just a temp and will get amended after people calm down.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
1. So you are making the point that satellite camps are not needed and you will do just fine without them. So why the belly ache? oh yea, its about the kids.
2. I thought the FL recruiting was fairly new. Wasn't it because of one of your newer coaches having connection in FL that allowed you to tap into that area?
3. Basically you are saying you got squat in NC and have to rely heavily on recruits from other states. Stay outta my yard you dang hillbilly!
GS mostly recruits instate, but have recently (like last year year and this year) been hitting SC hard for prospects. We usually get some FL and AL too just due to the short distance. I'm not really against satellite campls, but I think it was getting a little out of hand. The B1G (especially UM, I mean PSU really got this board talking when GSU hosted them) pushed it too far and the ACC and SEC pushed back hard. I think the ruling sounds like a parent when the kids start whining about something, the response is "Enough! Now no one gets any candy and stay in your rooms!" This rule seems to be just a temp and will get amended after people calm down.
We're simply doing our best to help the state of Georgia by offering those young men the opportunity to get a quality education.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
1. So you are making the point that satellite camps are not needed and you will do just fine without them. So why the belly ache? oh yea, its about the kids.
2. I thought the FL recruiting was fairly new. Wasn't it because of one of your newer coaches having connection in FL that allowed you to tap into that area?
3. Basically you are saying you got squat in NC and have to rely heavily on recruits from other states. Stay outta my yard you dang hillbilly!
GS mostly recruits instate, but have recently (like last year year and this year) been hitting SC hard for prospects. We usually get some FL and AL too just due to the short distance. I'm not really against satellite campls, but I think it was getting a little out of hand. The B1G (especially UM, I mean PSU really got this board talking when GSU hosted them) pushed it too far and the ACC and SEC pushed back hard. I think the ruling sounds like a parent when the kids start whining about something, the response is "Enough! Now no one gets any candy and stay in your rooms!" This rule seems to be just a temp and will get amended after people calm down.
No belly aching from this App ! Just made the point that we have ALWAYS had some success recruiting in Georgia and Florida.
App Recruits by state:
2014 -
GA (13), FL (6), NC (5), SC (2), TN (3)
2015
GA (5), FL (5), SC (4), NC (4), AL (2), TN (1), IA (1), CA (1)
2016
GA (2), FL (10), NC (6), TN (2), AL (2), SC (1)
Trending a little away from GA over last 3 years. Finding gems everywhere.
(04-13-2016 11:57 AM)The4thOption Wrote: We have enough trouble with our local SEC (App excluded of course), that it might even be overall best for the SBC to not have out of state powers and. G5s with camps in our midst. And it might help lower scholarship spending if we are able to sign more in state talent that may have otherwise gone else where.
The only two programs that I see this not helping ,post nmst/Idaho, are App and Ark State. I know that is significant, and they are both major conference powers, but I'm not crying for the mountaineers or their Valdosta state camp alliance. I don't belive we sent any camps to NC, and I don't want them here
Anybody got a list of players from GA on Apps Team? I'm to lazy to look it up. But one is to many CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it
App currently has 23 Georgia players on their roster. Additionally, they have around 18-20 from Florida. App has been recruiting both Georgia and Florida well way before having any satellite camps in place.
1. So you are making the point that satellite camps are not needed and you will do just fine without them. So why the belly ache? oh yea, its about the kids.
2. I thought the FL recruiting was fairly new. Wasn't it because of one of your newer coaches having connection in FL that allowed you to tap into that area?
3. Basically you are saying you got squat in NC and have to rely heavily on recruits from other states. Stay outta my yard you dang hillbilly!
GS mostly recruits instate, but have recently (like last year year and this year) been hitting SC hard for prospects. We usually get some FL and AL too just due to the short distance. I'm not really against satellite campls, but I think it was getting a little out of hand. The B1G (especially UM, I mean PSU really got this board talking when GSU hosted them) pushed it too far and the ACC and SEC pushed back hard. I think the ruling sounds like a parent when the kids start whining about something, the response is "Enough! Now no one gets any candy and stay in your rooms!" This rule seems to be just a temp and will get amended after people calm down.
No belly aching from this App ! Just made the point that we have ALWAYS had some success recruiting in Georgia and Florida.
App Recruits by state:
2014 -
GA (13), FL (6), NC (5), SC (2), TN (3)
2015
GA (5), FL (5), SC (4), NC (4), AL (2), TN (1), IA (1), CA (1)
2016
GA (2), FL (10), NC (6), TN (2), AL (2), SC (1)
Trending a little away from GA over last 3 years. Finding gems everywhere.
The FL number went way up in 2016. I do believe you've recruited heavy in GA for a long time, but I still think the FL thing is more recent. Just going off memory (that's a mistake) of what an App fan said about a newer coach on staff with connections down there. Surprised y'all don't do more in VA and SC.
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Why Did the SBC Vote Against Satellite Camps?
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CLOSE THE BORDERS! Hey Trump, can we change the location of that wall that you are going to make Mexico build. Never mind, we'll make NC pay for it 
and will get amended after people calm down.
