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(10-30-2018 07:19 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
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(10-24-2018 02:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I've come to the unfortunate reality that it's probably happening, and it SUCKS! How Salty are Boston fans that they have to Chant "Yankees Suck"? thier team has been best all year, likely about to win WS and all they can think about is their daddy?

You're probably too young to know this, but before the UNC-Duke rivalry in basketball, it was UNC-State. One of the two would be on TV playing someone else. And UNC or State fans would be cheering and holding up signs saying go to hell State or UNC. I'm sure some of the old guys my age on here can verify what I'm telling you. The rivalry back then was that serious.
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I get it having grown up on the NY/Mass line, half my buddies were Sox, half were Yankees. I'd root for the taliban if they were playing the Sox. And, IMO(and I'm a pats &Celtics fan although admittedly, not much of an NBA fan now) Boston fans are some of the worst in sports. There are times i'm embarrassed to be a Pats fan. I'd honestly only put Philly as worse than them.

Just "times"???

I'm not a fan of any Boston sports. None of them. Zilch. Nooooooope.

Also, to bring this thread back to topic:

I called Boston in 5. Just saying. 07-coffee3
LOL. The timing of your comment is suspect, happens to be merely a few hours after the Pats once again went to Buffalo and took care of business.

Dave Roberts is still on the Boston payroll. Game 4 was about as porrly managed as you will ever see. I won't even bring up the fact he sat 130 HR on the bench in games 1 and 2. Boston was clearly the better team, that said, Roberts did everything in his power to make sure his team had no chance.

Bricks- You guys can have Harper, please keep him far away from NY( Machado too!!!)
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Machado has NYY written all over him.
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(10-30-2018 10:13 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Machado has NYY written all over him.

The troll power level here is overwhelming. I can feel Hoops' nerves rattling from over here.
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(10-30-2018 10:30 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 10:13 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Machado has NYY written all over him.

The troll power level here is overwhelming. I can feel Hoops' nerves rattling from over here.

LOL, not trying to troll hoops. I see NYY overpaying for a FA this off-season and I think he’s a likely candidate. I think the Cubs overpay for someone too; can see it being Harper and I’m in favor, but have reservation.
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(10-30-2018 10:30 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 10:13 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Machado has NYY written all over him.

The troll power level here is overwhelming. I can feel Hoops' nerves rattling from over here.

LOL, not trying to troll hoops. I see NYY overpaying for a FA this off-season and I think he’s a likely candidate. I think the Cubs overpay for someone too; can see it being Harper and I’m in favor, but have reservation.

Agree on all. I'm in favor of Harper as well with only slight concerns on what we have to give up on/move on from to gain there. But the swagger levels in Chicago would be essentially off the charts. Additionally... what burden would that put on the Brizzo relationship.
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I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.
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(10-30-2018 12:19 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.

You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!
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(10-31-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 12:19 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.

You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!

Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
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(10-31-2018 08:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 12:19 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.

You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!

Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.
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For Chicago, Machado doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Baez plays a better SS than Machado, so he'd be moved to third which would move Bryant to LF(?). Harper improves Chicago, hands down, but at a huge cost and it requires that they move Schwarber and Happ (I'm assuming both). I think Chicago would be better off with a contact bat, that can lead off and play second or CF, and the pen has to be rebuilt. We've already fired Chili Davis, so hopefully a new approach helps some of the bats that didn't perform in 2018 (Bryant...also health related, Contreras and Happ) and they have starting pitching depth. I think Chicago is the best NL team with tweaks rather than overspending, but I don't sense that is the direction the FO will go.
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(10-31-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 12:19 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.

You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!

Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.

Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
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(10-31-2018 11:25 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 12:19 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I would want no part of Harper on the open market. Too much money for a guy who has mostly been on the decline for a while, and doesn't have the best personality/attitude.

Even in what, at first glance, appears to have been a productive contract year here in '18, his WAR was 1.3.

Not great.

You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!

Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.

Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
He's played in 6 postseason series, almost 100 ABs and hit .213, yes, he's a postseason choker, That's a far big enough sample size to place judgement.(maybe you should have looked before assuming it was just this year) When you play for teams that are in the PS often, getting big hits in the PS is a big factor, especially for the type of contract he's going to likely get. No thanks. One of many red flags with this guy and it has nothing to do at all with MY expectations. Thanks though.
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(10-31-2018 11:36 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 11:25 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 07:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  You guys are funny, trolling and all 05-stirthepot

All seriousness, i don't want any part of Harper(he's trended down last 2 years), Machado is a scumbag and if Kershaw opts out i want no part of him either.

I'm hoping the Yanks add, Morton, Kuechel, or Corbin, a contact bat, and some ballz, yes, those non clutch hitting bastards need some damn kahunas!

Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.

Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
He's played in 6 postseason series, almost 100 ABs and hit .213, yes, he's a postseason choker, That's a far big enough sample size to place judgement.(maybe you should have looked before assuming it was just this year) When you play for teams that are in the PS often, getting big hits in the PS is a big factor, especially for the type of contract he's going to likely get. No thanks. One of many red flags with this guy and it has nothing to do at all with MY expectations. Thanks though.

Six whole postseason series? C'mon man. LOL.

I still think you're being ridiculous. Who said I thought it was just this year? Take a look at the other team he played on. Who else in that lineup is dangerous around him? That's the difference between teams he's played with in the postseason. On top of that he was traded to LA at the deadline this year meaning there's not a lot of gel time, so there's an expectation of struggle.

Hey. You do you though. I still think there's a strong upside for Machado.
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(11-01-2018 08:54 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 11:36 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 11:25 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Not trolling, promise! Just saying if I'm a GM of any team, I don't want any part of Harper.

Machado is a different story. As much of a dirty player he is, he's damn good and only 25. He'd definitely have to play 3B for me though. At SS he's a bit of a liability (-1.2 dWAR last season at SS).
Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.

Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
He's played in 6 postseason series, almost 100 ABs and hit .213, yes, he's a postseason choker, That's a far big enough sample size to place judgement.(maybe you should have looked before assuming it was just this year) When you play for teams that are in the PS often, getting big hits in the PS is a big factor, especially for the type of contract he's going to likely get. No thanks. One of many red flags with this guy and it has nothing to do at all with MY expectations. Thanks though.

Six whole postseason series? C'mon man. LOL.

I still think you're being ridiculous. Who said I thought it was just this year? Take a look at the other team he played on. Who else in that lineup is dangerous around him? That's the difference between teams he's played with in the postseason. On top of that he was traded to LA at the deadline this year meaning there's not a lot of gel time, so there's an expectation of struggle.

Hey. You do you though. I still think there's a strong upside for Machado.

I listened to MLB radio all day yesterday, and this was a hot topic of discussion. Most of the analysts agree that he seriously affected his value with both his bush league antics, lack of hustle and his inability to hit in the PS.
There is no argument he's a talented dude, but if you are going to get paid what he's likely to get paid, you have to tick all the boxes, and he simply doesn't.
And 100 PS AB's is a large sample size, there is a very good % of players that will never see that in their careers.
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(11-01-2018 09:16 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 08:54 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 11:36 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 11:25 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-31-2018 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Agree with you on Harper, but in terms of Machado, not only is he a scumbag, he's a postseason choker too. I do agree though, in terms of him playing 3B, which is entirely the reason i want no part of him in NY, we have last years ROY there. No reason to rock that boat.

Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
He's played in 6 postseason series, almost 100 ABs and hit .213, yes, he's a postseason choker, That's a far big enough sample size to place judgement.(maybe you should have looked before assuming it was just this year) When you play for teams that are in the PS often, getting big hits in the PS is a big factor, especially for the type of contract he's going to likely get. No thanks. One of many red flags with this guy and it has nothing to do at all with MY expectations. Thanks though.

Six whole postseason series? C'mon man. LOL.

I still think you're being ridiculous. Who said I thought it was just this year? Take a look at the other team he played on. Who else in that lineup is dangerous around him? That's the difference between teams he's played with in the postseason. On top of that he was traded to LA at the deadline this year meaning there's not a lot of gel time, so there's an expectation of struggle.

Hey. You do you though. I still think there's a strong upside for Machado.

I listened to MLB radio all day yesterday, and this was a hot topic of discussion. Most of the analysts agree that he seriously affected his value with both his bush league antics, lack of hustle and his inability to hit in the PS.
There is no argument he's a talented dude, but if you are going to get paid what he's likely to get paid, you have to tick all the boxes, and he simply doesn't.
And 100 PS AB's is a large sample size, there is a very good % of players that will never see that in their careers.

Oh, I 1,000% agree on the antics and lack of hustle. I think his ability is where they're wrong. Can the rest of that affect his ability? Sure. You can also find a coach that will fix that kind of thing. It wasn't long ago they were saying the same things about Yasiel Puig -- who was even demoted to the minors for his antics, lack of hustle, and lack of production. Then what do ya know... he's back to smashing HRs in the postseason.

I just think you're living in the moment a little much here, just my opinion though. Grain of salt.
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(11-01-2018 10:07 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 09:16 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 08:54 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
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(10-31-2018 11:25 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Machado is a postseason choker???

Geez man, what's your sample size here? Tell me again how many times he's been to the postseason? I feel like you're a typical Yanks fan here. What I mean by that is not EVERY big star needs to be Reggie Jackson or Derek Jeter. The dude is only 25. Realistic expectations always seems to be a bit of a system shocker for you.
He's played in 6 postseason series, almost 100 ABs and hit .213, yes, he's a postseason choker, That's a far big enough sample size to place judgement.(maybe you should have looked before assuming it was just this year) When you play for teams that are in the PS often, getting big hits in the PS is a big factor, especially for the type of contract he's going to likely get. No thanks. One of many red flags with this guy and it has nothing to do at all with MY expectations. Thanks though.

Six whole postseason series? C'mon man. LOL.

I still think you're being ridiculous. Who said I thought it was just this year? Take a look at the other team he played on. Who else in that lineup is dangerous around him? That's the difference between teams he's played with in the postseason. On top of that he was traded to LA at the deadline this year meaning there's not a lot of gel time, so there's an expectation of struggle.

Hey. You do you though. I still think there's a strong upside for Machado.

I listened to MLB radio all day yesterday, and this was a hot topic of discussion. Most of the analysts agree that he seriously affected his value with both his bush league antics, lack of hustle and his inability to hit in the PS.
There is no argument he's a talented dude, but if you are going to get paid what he's likely to get paid, you have to tick all the boxes, and he simply doesn't.
And 100 PS AB's is a large sample size, there is a very good % of players that will never see that in their careers.

Oh, I 1,000% agree on the antics and lack of hustle. I think his ability is where they're wrong. Can the rest of that affect his ability? Sure. You can also find a coach that will fix that kind of thing. It wasn't long ago they were saying the same things about Yasiel Puig -- who was even demoted to the minors for his antics, lack of hustle, and lack of production. Then what do ya know... he's back to smashing HRs in the postseason.

I just think you're living in the moment a little much here, just my opinion though. Grain of salt.
Puig is definitely a headcase, but he's had success from day 1 in the PS. his first PS series he batted .471. I have my reasons for not wanting Machado, no spot, and hitting in the PS are two of them. I can only hope the Yankees stay away. Already not a fan of the anti clutch Stanton, don't need another choker.
For the record, i don't think anyone questions his raw skill, ability, talent

In the meantime, the Yankees opened up the offseason with more of the same, blah! They resigned last years waterboy, opps i mean Gardner
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Here's a good article on Harper's performance, arc and assumed value:

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/1...W2_JcIehPQ

I'm not sure what I'd do. The team he signs with will be improved, but at a huge cost and someone is going to take the risk that he's a generational talent.
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