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I wouldn't put it past the MLB front offices to have heard rumblings and reports of such activity and casually ignore it. However, once this thing hit the internet and the public response... they knew they had to react.

No doubt it was already discussed in player circles. Obviously, guys like Fiers once they left the organization weren't going to want to be cheated AGAINST and his statements added extra validity to what was already quickly spreading publicly.

The whole thing stinks. Now I'm ready to know WHEN the commish and/or other top officials in MLB first heard about this. That's the next step.
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Bryant talks.......
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(01-30-2020 01:29 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  https://670thescore.radio.com/all-eyes-k...%201/30%20[Final%20Combo]

Bryant talks.......

First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
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(01-31-2020 09:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:29 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  https://670thescore.radio.com/all-eyes-k...%201/30%20[Final%20Combo]

Bryant talks.......

First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?
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(01-31-2020 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:29 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  https://670thescore.radio.com/all-eyes-k...%201/30%20[Final%20Combo]

Bryant talks.......

First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?

They have had a falling out and he's unhappy in Colorado. I'm not sure the details, and I'm sure there's a 99% chance he won't get traded to Chicago, but it sounds like he could get traded.

He's got 6 years left on his 8 year $255 million contract. I have heard that Chicago isn't willing to pay Bryant 31/year and I've heard that Bryant wants more than 31/year.
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(01-31-2020 10:48 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:29 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  https://670thescore.radio.com/all-eyes-k...%201/30%20[Final%20Combo]

Bryant talks.......

First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?

They have had a falling out and he's unhappy in Colorado. I'm not sure the details, and I'm sure there's a 99% chance he won't get traded to Chicago, but it sounds like he could get traded.

He's got 6 years left on his 8 year $255 million contract. I have heard that Chicago isn't willing to pay Bryant 31/year and I've heard that Bryant wants more than 31/year.
Nolan actually has 7 years left including 2020, he signed his extension last year. whoever got him would be on the hook for about 7-225ish
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That's a pretty rough bridge to mend between Bryant and the Cubs. It might be best for both parties to get a trade done by the summer.
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(01-31-2020 11:13 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 10:48 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:29 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  https://670thescore.radio.com/all-eyes-k...%201/30%20[Final%20Combo]

Bryant talks.......

First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?

They have had a falling out and he's unhappy in Colorado. I'm not sure the details, and I'm sure there's a 99% chance he won't get traded to Chicago, but it sounds like he could get traded.

He's got 6 years left on his 8 year $255 million contract. I have heard that Chicago isn't willing to pay Bryant 31/year and I've heard that Bryant wants more than 31/year.
Nolan actually has 7 years left including 2020, he signed his extension last year. whoever got him would be on the hook for about 7-225ish

You can guarantee that any team in a trade deal with the Rockies for Nolan are going to be getting the Rockies to pay a portion of his salary annually. That's already being discussed in any possible deal with the Cubs. In a deal that involves more players, obviously the Rockies would be paying less.

Regardless, he's voiced his desire to get out of Colorado and Colorado is in talks and knows they're essentially going to have to pay for him to play for someone else... how much is their big question.

I'm with Bricks on his opinion of KB. I would prefer him always be a Cub, but if he wants out Nolan is about as good of a replacement as we could get. All indications are that he'd be willing to play for the Cubs too.
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(01-31-2020 01:15 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 11:13 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 10:48 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 09:54 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  First and foremost, I would prefer KB retire as a Chicago Cub. If it is clear that he will not sign with Chicago, then I'm okay making a move to reset the window rather than starting over.

It has been reported that he wants to retire a Cub as well, but the two sides are not close on the numbers.

When the grievance was FINALLY settled, there was discussion of a 1-1 trade for Arenado (if he is willing to waive his opt-out). If we can't keep KB, that would be a dream scenario even if it isn't likely.
I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?

They have had a falling out and he's unhappy in Colorado. I'm not sure the details, and I'm sure there's a 99% chance he won't get traded to Chicago, but it sounds like he could get traded.

He's got 6 years left on his 8 year $255 million contract. I have heard that Chicago isn't willing to pay Bryant 31/year and I've heard that Bryant wants more than 31/year.
Nolan actually has 7 years left including 2020, he signed his extension last year. whoever got him would be on the hook for about 7-225ish

You can guarantee that any team in a trade deal with the Rockies for Nolan are going to be getting the Rockies to pay a portion of his salary annually. That's already being discussed in any possible deal with the Cubs. In a deal that involves more players, obviously the Rockies would be paying less.

Regardless, he's voiced his desire to get out of Colorado and Colorado is in talks and knows they're essentially going to have to pay for him to play for someone else... how much is their big question.

I'm with Bricks on his opinion of KB. I would prefer him always be a Cub, but if he wants out Nolan is about as good of a replacement as we could get. All indications are that he'd be willing to play for the Cubs too.
Not as good, Nolan is the better player, hands down.
I hear you on eating some of the money, but the Rockies are not the Yankees, or Dodgers, they can't afford to have a big chunk of "dead money". So while they will certainly include some, i can't imagine it will be much.
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(01-31-2020 01:18 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not as good, Nolan is the better player, hands down.

Just not true. I argue that KB is the better player, but concede there is an argument for Arenado. I'd let it go if not for the "hands down" comment.
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(01-31-2020 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I hear ya in regards to KB. I don't understand the Rookies shopping Nolan after just signing him to a monster deal. Buyers remorse?

To me it is more of a Stanton type situation. While Arenado is unhappy I think the intent of the deal was to pay the man and then trade him as soon as possible, like Miami did with Stanton. Also part of making it appear to a fan base that they are willing to spend money for their stars, even if they really aren't
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(01-31-2020 01:29 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:18 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not as good, Nolan is the better player, hands down.

Just not true. I argue that KB is the better player, but concede there is an argument for Arenado. I'd let it go if not for the "hands down" comment.

Since Arenado became a regular in 2015, his Low HR total is 37(39.8 Average)(, his low BA is .287(.300 Ave over those 5 years), 124.2 RBI per year, Defensive WAR 14.4
Bryant- For the sake of the discussion we can remove 2018 since he was hurt, his 4 healthy years, 31.25 HR per year, .286 average average, 87.75 Average RBI per year., D WAR 4.5

Those numbers don't lie, Bryant had one great year, and 3 ok ones. Nolan has had 5 straight great seasons. I know you guys Love KB, i would too, he's very good. But Nolan is the best 3rd baseman in baseball right now and it really isn't close. For the record, i'd obviously love either of them on my squad.
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(01-31-2020 01:52 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:29 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:18 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not as good, Nolan is the better player, hands down.

Just not true. I argue that KB is the better player, but concede there is an argument for Arenado. I'd let it go if not for the "hands down" comment.

Since Arenado became a regular in 2015, his Low HR total is 37(39.8 Average)(, his low BA is .287(.300 Ave over those 5 years), 124.2 RBI per year, Defensive WAR 14.4
Bryant- For the sake of the discussion we can remove 2018 since he was hurt, his 4 healthy years, 31.25 HR per year, .286 average average, 87.75 Average RBI per year., D WAR 4.5

Those numbers don't lie, Bryant had one great year, and 3 ok ones. Nolan has had 5 straight great seasons. I know you guys Love KB, i would too, he's very good. But Nolan is the best 3rd baseman in baseball right now and it really isn't close. For the record, i'd obviously love either of them on my squad.

Take a look a Arenado's home/road splits and the offensive numbers are much closer and favor KB. You can check me on that, I haven't done a deep dive recently. Bryant with a better OPS and maybe the best bast runner in baseball. Before KB's injury his WAR was higher than Arenado.

Defensively, at 3B, it isn't close, but KB brings versatility and willingness to play wherever needed. Still advantage, Arenado though.

Injury concerns are legit with Bryant, so although he's slightly younger, that may be turning in Arenado's favor. It's a fantasy to thank he'd up with Chicago, but when comparing them, we're splitting hairs.

ETA...obviously I'm bias 04-cheers
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I wish I had an opportunity to meet Joanne before her passing.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/l...e-obituary
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(01-31-2020 02:07 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:52 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:29 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 01:18 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not as good, Nolan is the better player, hands down.

Just not true. I argue that KB is the better player, but concede there is an argument for Arenado. I'd let it go if not for the "hands down" comment.

Since Arenado became a regular in 2015, his Low HR total is 37(39.8 Average)(, his low BA is .287(.300 Ave over those 5 years), 124.2 RBI per year, Defensive WAR 14.4
Bryant- For the sake of the discussion we can remove 2018 since he was hurt, his 4 healthy years, 31.25 HR per year, .286 average average, 87.75 Average RBI per year., D WAR 4.5

Those numbers don't lie, Bryant had one great year, and 3 ok ones. Nolan has had 5 straight great seasons. I know you guys Love KB, i would too, he's very good. But Nolan is the best 3rd baseman in baseball right now and it really isn't close. For the record, i'd obviously love either of them on my squad.

Take a look a Arenado's home/road splits and the offensive numbers are much closer and favor KB. You can check me on that, I haven't done a deep dive recently. Bryant with a better OPS and maybe the best bast runner in baseball. Before KB's injury his WAR was higher than Arenado.

Defensively, at 3B, it isn't close, but KB brings versatility and willingness to play wherever needed. Still advantage, Arenado though.

Injury concerns are legit with Bryant, so although he's slightly younger, that may be turning in Arenado's favor. It's a fantasy to thank he'd up with Chicago, but when comparing them, we're splitting hairs.

ETA...obviously I'm bias 04-cheers

Oddly his HR are not that much different outside of Coors, 129 to 98. Average is a big boost at home. Also Oddly, Bryant has about the same % more HR at home.

We are splitting hairs for sure because both are pretty damn good. I honestly didn't think Nolan's numbers were that much better until i looked.
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(01-31-2020 02:12 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I wish I had an opportunity to meet Joanne before her passing.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/l...e-obituary

That is Awesome, what a great parting shot! haha
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