I believe he did the convincing in the case of Curry and Nation. Curry was pretty highly touted so unsure when he was found. He found Nation as he was a florida guy. I am not certain on Cooke, Barkers can probably speak to lou's role in his receuitment. Its a good question jmu2004.

http://m.dnronline.com/article/rowe_to_jmu

(03-31-2016 10:35 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  I believe he did the convincing in the case of Curry and Nation. Curry was pretty highly touted so unsure when he was found. He found Nation as he was a florida guy. I am not certain on Cooke, Barkers can probably speak to lou's role in his receuitment. Its a good question jmu2004.

Curry said as much. That's a positive. That said, assistant coaches get to be a little more buddy/buddy in the recruiting process. It's much different as a HC when guys start getting upset over playing time and such. We'll see how it works out.

“I liked everything about Coach Rowe,” Curry said. “Nothing [taken] away from Coach Brady or the coaching staff, Coach Rowe was kind of the reason I came here, to be completely honest. He just so happened to leave. He’s the reason I came here. I built a great relationship with Coach Rowe.”

Awesome dunker..let's get behind it...this should leave funds for coa

If you don't like the hire go cheer for Longwood.

Couple of ways to look at this one...

First, I'll assume that we're all going to support him. It's possible to be underwhelmed by the hire but root like hell that you're wrong. I haven't seen anybody say they're not supporting Lou.

Second, if somebody had told all of us that our next head coach is an assistant whose best coaching gig might have been under the coach we just fired, we'd all have an isht fit if we didn't know it was Lou Rowe.

Third, it is Lou Rowe. We all just hand a public wringing of hands over the departure of a former assistant/alum that turned a program into something awesome...maybe we get that again. Or maybe we get Sherman Dillard...

(03-31-2016 11:20 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Awesome dunker..let's get behind it...this should leave funds for coa

Problem is, COA is not really that much money. It's "philosophical" for John f'ing Alger. I really, really can't wait until that guy leaves. He hasn't done one damn good thing for the university that wouldn't have been done with no president at all. 4 years of FAIL.

(03-31-2016 11:36 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 11:20 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Awesome dunker..let's get behind it...this should leave funds for coa

Problem is, COA is not really that much money. It's "philosophical" for John f'ing Alger. I really, really can't wait until that guy leaves. He hasn't done one damn good thing for the university that wouldn't have been done with no president at all. 4 years of FAIL.

Not disagreeing at all..am sure he is a good man, but not the man for the job (cough...Obama....)

(03-31-2016 07:11 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 06:59 PM)lexduke398 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 06:58 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 05:06 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  Is this a good hire?

No

Yes it is. Don't be a jack donkey.

FIU, Rider, Bowling Green...give me a break. BGSU is coming off of a stellar 16-18 year. I think he helped lead FIU to about a 500 record. I hope I am wrong and he is a world beater. But honestly, taking everything in condsideration with the direction of our athletics this sucks. No one is surprised though

In fairness his role at each school was probably a little different but as an assistant I believe he was focused on recruiting. He was at Bowling Green for 1 season so it's really hard to judge Coach Rowe by this years record (even though the team got better as the season went on and made a little run in the conference tournament) . He was likely involved with bringing a few new guys into the program- a couple of freshman who were big contributors and a couple of transfers. He was involved with a couple of other recruits for 2016- both 2.5 stars.

I don't have any doubts that at the places Lou Rowe has coached that he has made an impact on culture and recruiting. We've seen that first hand at JMU. In game coaching, being the leader of the program, those are areas where we will have to see how he does and develops but I think he's up to the task. There would have been the same questions about Sanchez.

(03-31-2016 10:35 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  I believe he did the convincing in the case of Curry and Nation. Curry was pretty highly touted so unsure when he was found. He found Nation as he was a florida guy. I am not certain on Cooke, Barkers can probably speak to lou's role in his receuitment. Its a good question jmu2004.

Curry played at Matt Brady's alma mater- I think in Curry's case Brady knew of Curry but Rowe helped bring him on board/feel comfortable. Nation is a family friend of Rowe's I think in Andre's case Rowe brought him to the attention of the staff and then brought him on board. Not sure about Cooke.

We've had threads before about the transfer epidemic and about recruiting. Coaching and program success is increasingly becoming about bringing in good players and keeping them. No program seems immune to it- major, mid major, low major. Look in conference (Towson just lost another player, Delaware, Drexel, Charleston with a good young coach even) and there is a lot of attrition. Look outside of conference (someone mentioned O'Toole at Robert Morris as a JMU coaching candidate- his program has been ravaged by transfers out the last couple of years) there is a lot of attrition.

It's been suggested that had Rowe stayed maybe Cooke wouldn't have left. It has been suggested that Rowe could have had a positive influence on Nation. Think about how much better JMU would have been with a wing player or two who could defend at a high level, rebound, and get his own shot. Those are players in leagues like the CAA that help you dominate and get through. In fairness to Brady he hasn't had that type of talent the last couple of years and I think it's shown in Baltimore. The reality is that Brady wasn't able to recruit or retain that type of talent. I think Rowe can and will and that will make the difference.

Quote:Sources said Rowe and Sanchez interviewed in Harrisonburg on Tuesday. Bourne said Rowe left for Houston to attend the Final Four after his interview and was not in Harrisonburg on Thursday.

It is unclear why JMU was unable to come to terms with Sanchez.

This season at U.Va., Sanchez made a base salary of $225,000 with an additional supplemental compensation bonus of $45,000. He also earned NCAA Tournament bonuses of $46,875. That amounted to $316,875.

Brady, who went 139-127 with one NCAA berth at JMU, earned a base salary last season of $302,000. Rowe, meanwhile, was paid $95,000 in his first year at Bowling Green.

A source said Wednesday that Rowe was given a courtesy interview and had no expectation of getting the JMU job. Bourne denied that Winthrop coach Pat Kelsey, who a source said interviewed in Harrisonburg on Wednesday, was offered the job.

JMU not very good at either:
A) selling JMU
B) willing to spend enough money to attract appropriate coaches.

Why we will never go to 1A under this administration's watch.

We fire a coach to bring back two of his assistants to take over.

This reminds me of:
Dillard (coach who loved JMU and cried at press conference)
Keener (search firm found ex JMU assistant who was a great recruiter)
Jim Zorn (interviewed as assistant coach and hired as head coach - had no head coaching experience)

As we all say repeatedly - I love Lou as a person, but he's never been a head coach. You could argue the best coach he's coached for was Brady. The longest time he spent as an assistant was under Brady.

And Bourne putting Deane under Lou, reminds me of Bourne putting Bradley under Dillard. How did that AD micro management work? Of course JMU said it was all Lou's decision.

Would Deane as head coach, and Lou as assistant head coach of made more sense?

Start digging that new arena today!

Ok, I m all on board....BEST OF LUCK COACH ROWE......LETS START RECRUITING.

Cautiously optimistic; Curry's comment ("He's the reason I came here") is meaningful. Give the guy COA and we'll be good to go.

Love Rowe as a person and maybe it is his time in the coaching world. Here is the problem....we are replacing a coach who just won 20+ games...we are trying to fund a new 88 million dollar arena and the private fundraising has stalled... Publicly Rowe was not the lead candidate...the other candidates know we need COA and they also know our administration lies, they probably wanted it in writing so they could compete on a level playing field and our admin said no....so we take advantage of an alum to be our new coach setting him up to fail....not what you should do to one of our own...I hope Rowe can prove them all wrong as he will have one arm tied behind his back as our admin's have just doubled down on suck...not the coach, but the atmosphere and support for MBB success. So sad what these **sho**s have done to our university...you know we just accepted 72% of our applications? It is not just athletics where we have problems...yet these admin guys pat themselves on the back like they are great while getting ***tty results

(04-01-2016 05:59 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

Quote:Sources said Rowe and Sanchez interviewed in Harrisonburg on Tuesday. Bourne said Rowe left for Houston to attend the Final Four after his interview and was not in Harrisonburg on Thursday.

It is unclear why JMU was unable to come to terms with Sanchez.

This season at U.Va., Sanchez made a base salary of $225,000 with an additional supplemental compensation bonus of $45,000. He also earned NCAA Tournament bonuses of $46,875. That amounted to $316,875.

Brady, who went 139-127 with one NCAA berth at JMU, earned a base salary last season of $302,000. Rowe, meanwhile, was paid $95,000 in his first year at Bowling Green.

A source said Wednesday that Rowe was given a courtesy interview and had no expectation of getting the JMU job. Bourne denied that Winthrop coach Pat Kelsey, who a source said interviewed in Harrisonburg on Wednesday, was offered the job.

JMU not very good at either:
A) selling JMU
B) willing to spend enough money to attract appropriate coaches.

Why we will never go to 1A under this administration's watch.

We fire a coach to bring back two of his assistants to take over.

This reminds me of:
Dillard (coach who loved JMU and cried at press conference)
Keener (search firm found ex JMU assistant who was a great recruiter)
Jim Zorn (interviewed as assistant coach and hired as head coach - had no head coaching experience)

As we all say repeatedly - I love Lou as a person, but he's never been a head coach. You could argue the best coach he's coached for was Brady. The longest time he spent as an assistant was under Brady.

And Bourne putting Deane under Lou, reminds me of Bourne putting Bradley under Dillard. How did that AD micro management work? Of course JMU said it was all Lou's decision.

Would Deane as head coach, and Lou as assistant head coach of made more sense?

Start digging that new arena today!

We need a new Athletic Director. He has been here too long and we need "fresh air."
Would a petition help?

JMU was at 65% in 2015 https://www.jmu.edu/admissions/fastfacts.shtml
and tech runs at 70%, sooooo i'm not quite sure your point. I think JMU is a tweener school for a lot of people, a reach for most and a safety school for truly elite students. We attract a pretty high caliber student body, and I think if you've ever talked to or worked with a new grad youd likely see that.

Also, we retain 92% of our freshman (a really good sign), and graduate 82% of our students after 6 years, which is top 10 in the country.

JMU is no crumbling at its base, but it sure seems like it on these boards...

I also do not care for Mr. Alger and would like to see him shot out of a novelty cannon in the direction of a small liberal arts college somewhere in the northeast

(03-31-2016 10:30 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 09:38 PM)Bourneidentity Wrote:  He was plan E. Underwhelming hire even if he is an alum.

I don't think there was any plan at all. Best of luck to Rowe - I'll be rootin' for him - but on the surface this is very underwhelming. If we don't give him COA, it's gon' be ugly. I'm assuming he's coming at a discount so I really don't give a **** about Alger's "philosophical" BS, pay the damn COA.

Exactly and agree 100%. I don't philosophically agree/like COA either, but I realize it is a must and a fact of life in 2016+ to remain competitive in recruiting. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.......look at JMU's athletic budget and student fees to support athletics as well as money spent of facilities/infrastructure....to do all of that and then balk on COA which is a drop in the bucket by comparison starting with mbb and wbb. Geez the NCAA is even kicking in I think $55k for COA if a school offers it.

And you believe the fast facts page that is skewed? Go to the institutional research page statistical summary and do the math for first time freshman applications... and while there, look at the sat scores. Facts page includes transfer applications now. It did not in the past, but now that the combined data can help cover up the statistical slide, "they" use it.
then look at the yield rate. Under Alger JMU has seen a dramatic decline and we cannot afford to keep going this direction at this rate...and yes when George freaking Mason has higher stats than us, then the base is crumbling whether these stats are reported on the boards or not. Less worse /similar than Tech is not an excuse either. The intellectual dishonesty by this admin is amazing.

Good luck to Coach Rowe. Hope he does well and I am on board cheering for him and the Dukes. What concerns me is his record. Looks like he has been an assistant for 9 years. His overall conference record is 65-95. 32-38 is his 4 years not at JMU. I know he is not responsible for the record but it is concerning. I know tons of people wanted change but I am not sure this is the change I can believe in. I hope the strong faith folks have in him as a person translates into being a good head coach.

Our new baseball coach did a good job at VMI when you look at their record before he arrived.

Our excellent softball Coach Dean had a great record as Head coach at Radford

Coach Houston has an excellent track record as a proven Coach. Even Coach Withers came from a winning program and had some head coaching experience.

I am all in with Lou moving forward.