(03-31-2016 12:14 PM)Dadgum Wrote:  I'll picket, anyone else? Enough is enough.

I would consider it...I think some people in Hburg would be surprised if they knew my identity.

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(03-31-2016 12:18 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 12:14 PM)Dadgum Wrote:  I'll picket, anyone else? Enough is enough.

I would consider it...I think some people in Hburg would be surprised if they knew my identity.

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Uncle Ron?

Haze is Uncle Ron!!!! Hahaha... Classic!

There's really not one good reason to keep Alger around any longer. It's not just athletics. The BOV is completely worthless if they renew this guy. Plain and simple.

(03-31-2016 12:18 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 12:14 PM)Dadgum Wrote:  I'll picket, anyone else? Enough is enough.

I would consider it...I think some people in Hburg would be surprised if they knew my identity.

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Joe the JMs Bouncer?

(03-31-2016 12:18 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 12:14 PM)Dadgum Wrote:  I'll picket, anyone else? Enough is enough.

I would consider it...I think some people in Hburg would be surprised if they knew my identity.

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Miss Kathy from DHall?

miss kathy from dhall posts some shaaaaaaadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy things on facebook

Was wondering when his contract up. Dug this up from a Breeze article: "Alger’s contract expires June 30, 2017. He’s eligible to renew his contract with approval from the BOV in June 2016." We have two months to make sure the BOV has no intention of renewing his contract.

I have been thinking about all the colossal screw ups our administration has given us since I arrived on campus as a Freshman in 2008 and I am getting really upset.

-JMU builds a 25k stadium costing $62 million, inciting rumors and hopes of a potential move to FBS.

-JMU releases plans to build New Convo costing $88 million.

-ODU starts a football program, quickly becomes our equal and tries to convince us to join CUSA with them but we aren't ready.
http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/ol...c0480.html

-JMU commissions Carr Sports to tell us what we already know (JMU is FBS ready) for $79k.

-JMU turns down Sun Belt because the conference isn't an academic fit (even though we already recruit against the Sun Belt in SC/NC/GA).

-JMU continues to schedule unattractive cupcakes for both Football and MBB that increase apathy among the fanbase (Seriously, we are going to play at Norfolk State).

-Coastal Carolina, another program that we used to look down on, takes initiative and secures a spot in the Sun Belt making them more relevant than JMU and a more attractive option for other conferences in the near future.

-EW bolts to Texas State, undoubtedly seeing the writing on the wall that JMU is going nowhere.

-Alger gets caught with his pants down regarding his stance on COA (he was the very first signature) where it becomes obvious that he hopes to align our great university with the likes of Hofstra, Vermont, Elon, and VMI. Administration then censors Facebook comments about the letter.

-JMU refuses to offer COA for Basketball essentially neutering the athletic program with the greatest potential to build our "national brand". We lose another good coach, now an alum, that can see he won't be able to compete under this administration.

-I have heard rumblings that Carr Sports may be presenting another report to the administration sometime this Spring regarding a possible move to CUSA.

Despite our clearly stated wishes to become a "National" University that is "engaged", we are anything but. We have continued to class ourselves with schools that do not match our current value and accomplishments as well as our potential. The administration does not engage alums/fans other than to ask for donations. "Be The Change" is just a phrase we stole from Ghandi. We don't change anything. We allow our environment to change and evolve while we happily plow our heads deeper into the sand. There is nothing wrong with being smart and doing due diligence on a decision with the magnitude of a possible conference move but the monitoring, listening, dialogue, strategic plans, and following of "thought leaders" has continued nauseatingly since I was a Freshman. We built a $62 million dollar stadium to host Central Connecticut State. We have plans to build a $88 million Convo so we can host Eastern Mennonite. We have a $44 million dollar budget that doesn't fit our current athletic status yet we refuse to shell out the ~$160k it will take to give our basketball programs a fighting chance. We are the Eagleton of college athletic programs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iZOL63vej8).

I attended JMU primarily due to my interest in the football program. If I was a High School Senior now it is very likely that my interest towards Coastal, ODU, or Towson would be greater. Athletics are the only way for JMU to establish itself as a Nationally recognized brand. Alger/Bourne/King/Whoever is responsible for this mess... Do not kill my Dukes.

(03-31-2016 01:10 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  miss kathy from dhall posts some shaaaaaaadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy things on facebook

Leave her be lol

(04-01-2016 11:02 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 01:10 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  miss kathy from dhall posts some shaaaaaaadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy things on facebook

Leave her be lol

Tell me she doesn't post some weird ass stuff

^^ epic

This thread could have 15,000 post in a few years after UMass, Liberty, Stony Brook, WKU, ODU, W&M, Towson and a university that does not yet exist all have made additional fbs conference moves.

circa 2026, the last post may be "damn, I am glad Jeff Bourne just retired after 27 years as JMU AD, maybe we can leave the CAA and rejoin Towson, W&M and Delaware again...oh ****, se can't, those schools pay the COA...we should keep an eye on this fluid situation."

(04-02-2016 10:06 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  This thread could have 15,000 post in a few years after UMass, Liberty, Stony Brook, WKU, ODU, W&M, Towson and a university that does not yet exist all have made additional fbs conference moves.

circa 2026, the last post may be "damn, I am glad Jeff Bourne just retired after 27 years as JMU AD, maybe we can leave the CAA and rejoin Towson, W&M and Delaware again...oh ****, se can't, those schools pay the COA...we should keep an eye on this fluid situation."

Do you honestly think it's Jeff Bourne that is keeping us out of FBS? Did that guy like kick your dog or something?

I totally understand the anger and frustration but shouldn't it be towards Alger and the BOV?

(04-02-2016 10:10 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:06 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  This thread could have 15,000 post in a few years after UMass, Liberty, Stony Brook, WKU, ODU, W&M, Towson and a university that does not yet exist all have made additional fbs conference moves.

circa 2026, the last post may be "damn, I am glad Jeff Bourne just retired after 27 years as JMU AD, maybe we can leave the CAA and rejoin Towson, W&M and Delaware again...oh ****, se can't, those schools pay the COA...we should keep an eye on this fluid situation."

Do you honestly think it's Jeff Bourne that is keeping us out of FBS? Did that guy like kick your dog or something?

I totally understand the anger and frustration but shouldn't it be towards Alger and the BOV?

I work in an environment where I am held accountable, I have no choice but the hold those that work under me accountable. I don't get to make excuses 8 days a week.

Bourne has lied and has been part of asset mismanagement and bad decision making, that can't be changed.

Maybe my anger towards Bourne comes from a misunderstanding of Bourne's job, advance JMU athletics. If that is a result expectation, Bourne has failed miserably. I will give Bourne a check in the box next to "cares."

If we put all the Care in the world in one hand and start s******* in the other hand, which hand fills up first?

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What is wrong with saying, "My hands are tied." Personally, I've never been held accountable for the actions of others superior to me, as long as I didn't out-and-out toss them under the bus. Big, very big decisions are made everyday in business which dwarf JMU's to FBS, and the company president get's his way which is in opposition of his subordinates. You don't come out and call your boss and ignorant SOB. You can easily state, "that JA is confident in his thinking and makes some good points while certainly looking through my window I see opportunity with a move to an FBS conference. JB really has little sack if in fact if it were up to him we'd already be FBS.

In addition, he says nothing when speaking, there is simply no "beef" behind his words. Certainly I know JA, and previously Rose, is the man behind not making the move, but how JB can be such a pansy is beyond me.

Furthermore, I learned more about his inept abilities when the Norfolk State deal was announced than anything else I have seen. There is no way to defend him and say that was JA's or CK's decision. We could have just as easily signed a home-and-home deal with Furman, Wofford, The Citadel, Lafayette, or even another Lehigh deal and it would have been better than placing us on equal ground with NS.

We want to preach that we need to be competing with academic peers (stated reason for not accepting the SB) then we do just the opposite with this one contract. It's double talk if ever I witnessed it. What I have learned is if either is speaking nothing is being said, yet their mouth still moves.

(04-03-2016 10:21 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  ...We want to preach that we need to be competing with academic peers (stated reason for not accepting the SB) ...

Stated by who? Did JMU ever say that? Serious question.

I know some Sunbelt people got all butt hurt when JMU declined to pursue a Sunbelt offer and said JMU thought it was too good for the Sunbelt academically, etc., but I don't recall anyone at JMU ever saying anything along those lines. It's also become like a mantra on this board that we (the administration) think we're too good academically for the Sunbelt, but has anyone ever heard JMU decision-maker say that that is a primary reason we didn't pursue the Sunbelt?

I know it's one of the criteria that is to be considered with any possible conference move, but there are a variety of other issues as well. To me, the biggest drawbacks to the Sunbelt (aside from the fact that it is generally viewed as the weakest FBS conference in the county, whether fairly or unfairly) are the poor geographic fit and the larger number (as compared to other realistic options) of sports that would become orphans with a Sunbelt move. I would be surprised if the JMU admin thought that otherwise.

No one at JMU actually says anything, that's the f&*(ing problem, it's all double talk and conjecture and read between the lines fluff.

Like I stated last week Jeff Bourne, if his hands are truly tied, has two options.

1. Resign (Highly Unlikely)

2. Be known as the AD that drove JMU Athletics into the ground. (Highly Likely)

Any other AD in the country... if the program suffers, it's their fault.
Our AD... if the program suffers, it has to be someone else's fault.
That's the problem. Hands tied or not, he has a job and he's not doing it well.
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(04-04-2016 08:39 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:21 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  ...We want to preach that we need to be competing with academic peers (stated reason for not accepting the SB) ...

Stated by who? Did JMU ever say that? Serious question.

I know some Sunbelt people got all butt hurt when JMU declined to pursue a Sunbelt offer and said JMU thought it was too good for the Sunbelt academically, etc., but I don't recall anyone at JMU ever saying anything along those lines. It's also become like a mantra on this board that we (the administration) think we're too good academically for the Sunbelt, but has anyone ever heard JMU decision-maker say that that is a primary reason we didn't pursue the Sunbelt?

I know it's one of the criteria that is to be considered with any possible conference move, but there are a variety of other issues as well. To me, the biggest drawbacks to the Sunbelt (aside from the fact that it is generally viewed as the weakest FBS conference in the county, whether fairly or unfairly) are the poor geographic fit and the larger number (as compared to other realistic options) of sports that would become orphans with a Sunbelt move. I would be surprised if the JMU admin thought that otherwise.

Did you attend any of the coaches tours? I did and had conversations with Bourne, EW, Sean O'Regan, and Mike Deane. I had EW's ear for a moment with Bourne standing right next to him listening to our conversation, the words told to me when I asked about the Sunbelt, "All you have to do is be able to blow smoke on a mirror and an athlete gets approved at the Sunbelt schools." He carried it further by explaining to me how difficult it is for him to get a kid approved at JMU.

If you are looking for an official comment, then no, I don't have anything to pull up for you, but in my opinion what is talked about in a private setting is much more valuable. By the way, when the four men moved to the front for a little question and answer session with microphones, I asked Bourne if I could turn on my recording app and he ask me not to do that. This event was attended by about 30 people which really gave us some personal time with each man and for about 15 minutes I had EW, SO, and MD all to myself at my table. I am not gun shy when it comes to asking direct questions, but I knew there was no point in asking JB why we will not consider the SB, as all I would have received back would have been words without substance at least EW laid it out there.