(03-26-2016 12:53 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  So let me get this straight. A "parent" (the Democratic machine of Detroit and Flint) knowingly and willingly allowed poison to be ingested by their children (the people of Flint), and you are blaming the 911 operator (the Governor) for not responding fast enough when the kids are unconscious from the poison and the emergency call comes in?

Are you related to Ray Nagin, by chance?

There's a republican governor, for the first time in a long time. Of course they will place as much of the blame as possible on him. They are despicable people, no doubt. And Tom defends them.

The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Thanks obummer!


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(03-26-2016 01:04 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 12:53 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  So let me get this straight. A "parent" (the Democratic machine of Detroit and Flint) knowingly and willingly allowed poison to be ingested by their children (the people of Flint), and you are blaming the 911 operator (the Governor) for not responding fast enough when the kids are unconscious from the poison and the emergency call comes in?

Are you related to Ray Nagin, by chance?

There's a republican governor, for the first time in a long time. Of course they will place as much of the blame as possible on him. They are despicable people, no doubt. And Tom defends them.

MI libs are a different breed of crazy....toss in the union factor and you get the perfect lib poison potion....I have two close friends from MI I refuse to discuss politics with.....their arguments are no different than the posits by the libs on this board....baseless and pointless....

....and Smitty....nice one with the Nagin ref....

Someone help me out here. Exactly what is it that the governor should have done differently? And what is the chain of causation from that to the problem?

While you are at it, same questions for any other parties to the process.

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

(03-24-2016 12:06 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I haven't paid much attention to the fall out over all of this but I still think it is incredible that the people of the city were essentially ignored while brown water came out of every faucet.

And people still drank that stuff?

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

Union

(03-26-2016 12:53 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  So let me get this straight. A "parent" (the Democratic machine of Detroit and Flint) knowingly and willingly allowed poison to be ingested by their children (the people of Flint), and you are blaming the 911 operator (the Governor) for not responding fast enough when the kids are unconscious from the poison and the emergency call comes in?

Are you related to Ray Nagin, by chance?

Yep, funny how Bush and Michael Brown got slapped with Katrina, and Nagen skated. Especially since;

1. Florida got hit by Katrina, but because Florida had a republican governor, they handled the problem as efficiently as possible.

2. Mississippi is actually the state that took the brunt of Katrina. But because they were run by a republican governor, they handled things as efficiently as possible.

3. New Orleans doesnt even take a direct hit by Katrina. But because they have ******** liberals running the city and state, their people die due to complete incompetence.

(03-26-2016 03:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 12:53 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  So let me get this straight. A "parent" (the Democratic machine of Detroit and Flint) knowingly and willingly allowed poison to be ingested by their children (the people of Flint), and you are blaming the 911 operator (the Governor) for not responding fast enough when the kids are unconscious from the poison and the emergency call comes in?

Are you related to Ray Nagin, by chance?

Yep, funny how Bush and Michael Brown got slapped with Katrina, and Nagen skated. Especially since;

1. Florida got hit by Katrina, but because Florida had a republican governor, they handled the problem as efficiently as possible.

2. Mississippi is actually the state that took the brunt of Katrina. But because they were run by a republican governor, they handled things as efficiently as possible.

3. New Orleans doesnt even take a direct hit by Katrina. But because they have ******** liberals running the city and state, their people die due to complete incompetence.

2. Mississippi is actually the state that took the brunt of Katrina. But because they were run by a republican governor, they handled things as efficiently as possible with very little federal government intervention.

3. New Orleans doesnt even take a direct hit by Katrina. But because they have ******** liberals running the city and state, their people die due to complete incompetence and required massive federal government intervention.

(03-26-2016 03:52 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 03:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 12:53 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  So let me get this straight. A "parent" (the Democratic machine of Detroit and Flint) knowingly and willingly allowed poison to be ingested by their children (the people of Flint), and you are blaming the 911 operator (the Governor) for not responding fast enough when the kids are unconscious from the poison and the emergency call comes in?

Are you related to Ray Nagin, by chance?

Yep, funny how Bush and Michael Brown got slapped with Katrina, and Nagen skated. Especially since;

1. Florida got hit by Katrina, but because Florida had a republican governor, they handled the problem as efficiently as possible.

2. Mississippi is actually the state that took the brunt of Katrina. But because they were run by a republican governor, they handled things as efficiently as possible.

3. New Orleans doesnt even take a direct hit by Katrina. But because they have ******** liberals running the city and state, their people die due to complete incompetence.

2. Mississippi is actually the state that took the brunt of Katrina. But because they were run by a republican governor, they handled things as efficiently as possible with very little federal government intervention.

3. New Orleans doesnt even take a direct hit by Katrina. But because they have ******** liberals running the city and state, their people die due to complete incompetence and required massive federal government intervention.

how 'bout that.....

it was really impressive how the 'sip handled that one....

the eye passed over the west side of the 'burg....we are 60 miles inland and it looked like a war zone after 10 hrs of hell....the evac plan was solid in the 'sip....

Stinky,

Will be in the "sip early next week for business. Greenville, to be exact.

(03-26-2016 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Stinky,

Will be in the "sip early next week for business. Greenville, to be exact.

ah....the delta....that place is old school....head up to clarksdale for shites and giggies if you can....that town is something else...

north of I-20 is another animal in the 'sip....

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

I guess you missed it when I said that I voted for Snyder.

(03-28-2016 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

I guess you missed it when I said that I voted for Snyder.

Yeah and my left nut has magical powers and I sh!t golden nuggets.

(03-28-2016 10:34 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

I guess you missed it when I said that I voted for Snyder.

Yeah and my left nut has magical powers and I sh!t golden nuggets.

You calling me a liar?

Not to mention the whole idiocy of this constant diatribe around here that us liberals are required to like republicans...vote for them...and support conservative causes and ideas, yet none of us liberals even give two ***** whether you vote for a democrat or support a liberal cause.

It's just so ridiculously stupid.

We have differences and there's not a damned thing wrong with that, so just kindly shut the **** up about it, mmmmkay?

(03-28-2016 12:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:34 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

I guess you missed it when I said that I voted for Snyder.

Yeah and my left nut has magical powers and I sh!t golden nuggets.

You calling me a liar?

Not to mention the whole idiocy of this constant diatribe around here that us liberals are required to like republicans...vote for them...and support conservative causes and ideas, yet none of us liberals even give two ***** whether you vote for a democrat or support a liberal cause.

It's just so ridiculously stupid.

We have differences and there's not a damned thing wrong with that, so just kindly shut the **** up about it, mmmmkay?

(03-24-2016 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-24-2016 01:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  When in doubt, blame the conservatives and the state before you blame the EPA

WTF does this have to do with conservatives????

And this wasn't an EPA issue because it had nothing really to do with the environment. Yes, they made some mistakes, but it's not where the bulk of the blame lies. That's what this panel, appointed by Snyder, found.

I guess you chose not to read the news reports about the EPA e-mail where the woman responsible said people in Flint weren't worth sticking their neck out for and ignored the bad readings?

(03-26-2016 06:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Someone help me out here. Exactly what is it that the governor should have done differently? And what is the chain of causation from that to the problem?

While you are at it, same questions for any other parties to the process.

1. Democrats bankrupted the city
2. State bailed them out.
3. Flint decided to switch water sources to save money, but Democrats in Detroit tried to charge them an arm and a leg in the interim to continue using Detroit water.
4. State appointed administrator took cheaper route for the interim using Flint River water, which had chemicals that corroded the old pipes in Flint.
5. Lead from the old pipes got in the drinking water.
6. State bureaucracy ignored problems.
7. Obama's EPA ignored problems.
8. Democrats blame it all on Republicans.

(03-28-2016 12:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:34 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 06:34 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 01:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  The "state" is fundamentally responsible for virtually every screw-up that occurs in America but it only matters when a Republican is in charge.

Yep, and that's exactly what TankerTom is trying to sell everyone here with this thread. He's never seen a Republican he's likes and unfailingly defends everything Democrat - but just ask him, he's an independent.............maybe independent water hauler.......

I guess you missed it when I said that I voted for Snyder.

Yeah and my left nut has magical powers and I sh!t golden nuggets.

You calling me a liar?

Not to mention the whole idiocy of this constant diatribe around here that us liberals are required to like republicans...vote for them...and support conservative causes and ideas, yet none of us liberals even give two ***** whether you vote for a democrat or support a liberal cause.

It's just so ridiculously stupid.

We have differences and there's not a damned thing wrong with that, so just kindly shut the **** up about it, mmmmkay?

Yes, yes I am calling you a liar. Anybody with basic analytical skills will come to the same conclusion after being exposed to a number of your posts. And I have certainly never said you or any of your folks ("us liberals" as you put it) should vote one way or the other, so I don't know where you're getting that nonsense. And I don't give a sh!t whether "you liberals" don't give two ***** who I vote for.

And why you do you constantly demand that i "shut the **** up" about anything? You really need to change that mentality of wanting to silence people who disagree with you or call you out.