(03-31-2016 02:44 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We talked about the lack of scoring options off the bench last year and an overall lack of depth past 7 players. I'm hoping that we get better players than the ones that are transferring and hopefully with more eligibility left. I've looked at the junior college point guards uncommitted and those are left don't look impressive on paper. There are many more prep school post graduate point guard available. We know we made offers to Brown and Towns and Turner out of those Michigan high school players that haven't committed. I have no idea of what Murphy and staff are recruiting beyond that.

are those old, stale offers?

I haven't seen anything new to indicate that we are hot on the trail of those MI h.s. guards...

As I previously posted, with EA and Stone gone, I would be very surprised if the backup point guard is a true frosh.

We have gone through about 5 PGs in that last what 4 years, Ross, Talley, Toney, EA, Stone... (don't know if I've forgotten any).

The ones who panned out were D-I or JUCO transfers...

Since we will be losing our whole backcourt after next season, I wouldn't mind seeing a couple 4-year guards recruited this year, then a JUCO or two next year for depth. Having a couple freshmen for this coming season would allow us to get their feet wet without the pressure of playing a huge role right away. I think we can survive next season with Bond running point any time Toney isn't on the floor. Lee can handle the ball as well.

(03-31-2016 05:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 02:44 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We talked about the lack of scoring options off the bench last year and an overall lack of depth past 7 players. I'm hoping that we get better players than the ones that are transferring and hopefully with more eligibility left. I've looked at the junior college point guards uncommitted and those are left don't look impressive on paper. There are many more prep school post graduate point guard available. We know we made offers to Brown and Towns and Turner out of those Michigan high school players that haven't committed. I have no idea of what Murphy and staff are recruiting beyond that.

are those old, stale offers?

I haven't seen anything new to indicate that we are hot on the trail of those MI h.s. guards...

As I previously posted, with EA and Stone gone, I would be very surprised if the backup point guard is a true frosh.

We have gone through about 5 PGs in that last what 4 years, Ross, Talley, Toney, EA, Stone... (don't know if I've forgotten any).

The ones who panned out were D-I or JUCO transfers...

Lets see the News wrote up their top 20 in December 2015 and they mentioned Brown and Towns being offered by EMU. Apparently one of the EMU coaches recently began following Dwayne Burton on twitter.

(03-31-2016 07:46 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 05:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 02:44 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We talked about the lack of scoring options off the bench last year and an overall lack of depth past 7 players. I'm hoping that we get better players than the ones that are transferring and hopefully with more eligibility left. I've looked at the junior college point guards uncommitted and those are left don't look impressive on paper. There are many more prep school post graduate point guard available. We know we made offers to Brown and Towns and Turner out of those Michigan high school players that haven't committed. I have no idea of what Murphy and staff are recruiting beyond that.

are those old, stale offers?

I haven't seen anything new to indicate that we are hot on the trail of those MI h.s. guards...

As I previously posted, with EA and Stone gone, I would be very surprised if the backup point guard is a true frosh.

We have gone through about 5 PGs in that last what 4 years, Ross, Talley, Toney, EA, Stone... (don't know if I've forgotten any).

The ones who panned out were D-I or JUCO transfers...

Lets see the News wrote up their top 20 in December 2015 and they mentioned Brown and Towns being offered by EMU. Apparently one of the EMU coaches recently began following Dwayne Burton on twitter.

An unaccepted offer means nothing. Those offers could have come from Summer and were not accepted (or else they would have signed in November).

I consider an offer from last summer which did not result in a November LOI to be 'stale.'

I want to know who the staff is offering now...

They go to these JUCO tourneys in March and then the real fun begins. That's where we found what THREE late recruits last year.

These kids are seen in March, visit in late March or April and sign usually within the 2nd half of April.

(03-31-2016 09:06 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 07:46 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 05:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 02:44 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We talked about the lack of scoring options off the bench last year and an overall lack of depth past 7 players. I'm hoping that we get better players than the ones that are transferring and hopefully with more eligibility left. I've looked at the junior college point guards uncommitted and those are left don't look impressive on paper. There are many more prep school post graduate point guard available. We know we made offers to Brown and Towns and Turner out of those Michigan high school players that haven't committed. I have no idea of what Murphy and staff are recruiting beyond that.

are those old, stale offers?

I haven't seen anything new to indicate that we are hot on the trail of those MI h.s. guards...

As I previously posted, with EA and Stone gone, I would be very surprised if the backup point guard is a true frosh.

We have gone through about 5 PGs in that last what 4 years, Ross, Talley, Toney, EA, Stone... (don't know if I've forgotten any).

The ones who panned out were D-I or JUCO transfers...

Lets see the News wrote up their top 20 in December 2015 and they mentioned Brown and Towns being offered by EMU. Apparently one of the EMU coaches recently began following Dwayne Burton on twitter.

An unaccepted offer means nothing. Those offers could have come from Summer and were not accepted (or else they would have signed in November).

I consider an offer from last summer which did not result in a November LOI to be 'stale.'

I want to know who the staff is offering now...

They go to these JUCO tourneys in March and then the real fun begins. That's where we found what THREE late recruits last year.

These kids are seen in March, visit in late March or April and sign usually within the 2nd half of April.

A classic Mr Know It Post from Steve. We never sign anyone in the fall so you don't know when the offer was made so you really don't know if its stale or not do you? Maybe the offer was made after the fall signing date. And we haven't announced a spring signing class on time usually we don't find out until football season is ready to begin. We don't announce a fall class and an early signing because apparently the staff can't get a kid to sign on the dotted line or JUCO either. Are we recruiting JUCO kids? Whose really knows? We just lost out to Toledo a team we beat 3 times for one of those JUCO PGs that fills one spot on your shopping list. You're the one with the purported inside dope Steve with Murphy and Lyke so maybe you drop a hint instead of bashing the rest of us over the head?

I said that EMU offered Stone and you were one of those who said we didn't for about two months. I said Bond would play small forward rather than guard (it ended up we were both 50% right). I'm assuming the Detroit News got the information that EMU offered them from either the high school coaches or the players. I guess I will have to wait and see since I don't have a pipeline to either Murphy or Lyke like Mr. Insider.

(03-31-2016 09:56 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 09:06 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 07:46 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 05:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 02:44 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We talked about the lack of scoring options off the bench last year and an overall lack of depth past 7 players. I'm hoping that we get better players than the ones that are transferring and hopefully with more eligibility left. I've looked at the junior college point guards uncommitted and those are left don't look impressive on paper. There are many more prep school post graduate point guard available. We know we made offers to Brown and Towns and Turner out of those Michigan high school players that haven't committed. I have no idea of what Murphy and staff are recruiting beyond that.

are those old, stale offers?

I haven't seen anything new to indicate that we are hot on the trail of those MI h.s. guards...

As I previously posted, with EA and Stone gone, I would be very surprised if the backup point guard is a true frosh.

We have gone through about 5 PGs in that last what 4 years, Ross, Talley, Toney, EA, Stone... (don't know if I've forgotten any).

The ones who panned out were D-I or JUCO transfers...

Lets see the News wrote up their top 20 in December 2015 and they mentioned Brown and Towns being offered by EMU. Apparently one of the EMU coaches recently began following Dwayne Burton on twitter.

An unaccepted offer means nothing. Those offers could have come from Summer and were not accepted (or else they would have signed in November).

I consider an offer from last summer which did not result in a November LOI to be 'stale.'

I want to know who the staff is offering now...

They go to these JUCO tourneys in March and then the real fun begins. That's where we found what THREE late recruits last year.

These kids are seen in March, visit in late March or April and sign usually within the 2nd half of April.

A classic Mr Know It Post from Steve. We never sign anyone in the fall so you don't know when the offer was made so you really don't know if its stale or not do you? Maybe the offer was made after the fall signing date. And we haven't announced a spring signing class on time usually we don't find out until football season is ready to begin. We don't announce a fall class and an early signing because apparently the staff can't get a kid to sign on the dotted line or JUCO either. Are we recruiting JUCO kids? Whose really knows? We just lost out to Toledo a team we beat 3 times for one of those JUCO PGs that fills one spot on your shopping list. You're the one with the purported inside dope Steve with Murphy and Lyke so maybe you drop a hint instead of bashing the rest of us over the head?

I said that EMU offered Stone and you were one of those who said we didn't for about two months. I said Bond would play small forward rather than guard (it ended up we were both 50% right). I'm assuming the Detroit News got the information that EMU offered them from either the high school coaches or the players. I guess I will have to wait and see since I don't have a pipeline to either Murphy or Lyke like Mr. Insider.

I have been following Murphy's MO (modus operandi) for years.

Spring is usually devoted to players recruited late in the cycle, e.g., JUCOs, transfers, graduate eligibles, or players discovered in high school tourneys. Players like Bond, JT4, etc. became available late in the process. I believe Bond decommited from Jacksonville after a coaching change.

As far as Stone, I know LaMonta, the father, and have for more than a dozen years. I was aware of LaMonta's recruitment based on Twitter PMs from his father. I knew of when father and son attended an EMU home game as part of the recruitment 'process.'

I elected to keep that information privileged and off public boards, Twitter, etc. To me, PMs are not for public forums. I did not respond to your posts or replied in an absolutely generic way.

I let the recruit or family or recruit's coach make the announcement that he is seriously considering or has committed to EMU. I comment after I can find the information on the Internet. (yes, sometimes it is going out to the Internet to confirm what one already knows is public).

As far as this recruiting cycle we are in, it has a lot of moving parts, so to speak.

At the time of the early signing period, we had ONE scholarship to give. Naz was our only senior. We got a commit from Steele out in Iowa.

Next, Stone was off the team. I did not post anything, but I noticed AT Kent that he wasn't with the team (I was at the game and saw who was and wasn't with the team). Again out of deference to father and son I did not post anything. I did not want to start speculation as to whether he was or was not on the team.

So at that point: We have TWO scholarships to give (Steele took one) and we were down a PG.

Next, EA leaves and we have THREE scholarships to give and down TWO PGs.

Based on that, I ASSUME we have to have a JUCO or graduate eligible PG. We are dangerously thin at PG for 2016/17.

Now with Price gone... Since Jan 1, 2016 we have lost TWO PGs and one SF and picked up 3 LOIs to give.

I have been consistent that if it were ME, I'd go Steele (up front), a JUCO PG, but the SG could be anything, e.g., h.s., transfer, JUCO, etc. because we have both Mangum and Lee there. a H.S. SG could even redshirt. A transfer sitout would also work.

And now we need a SF and that could be anything, I'd guess. I would give a frosh SF 10+ minutes a game. I'd be scared of doing the same at PG.

Just my 2 cents (and, yes, I miss the cents sign on keyboards)...

(03-30-2016 11:01 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Since he redshirted for his transfer year, he likely graduated (or plans to graduate this spring), making him eligible immediately.

I'm guessing it has to do with playing time, which is understandable. It's a shame it didn't work out with Price...he had great size and athleticism for his position, but just could not shoot it consistently at all. That first CMU game, where he caught fire, gave me some hope. But he reverted back to his inconsistencies immediately after. I wish him the best, but I'll gladly take my chances on recruiting a different shooter on the wing.

This is a tough loss for EMU. He was not a great scorer, but still managed 30% shooting from the 3. But his defense was top notch. Note the NIU game that seemed lost before Price was inserted. The defense completely shut down NIU at that point. I think he should have been maintained as the eighth man in the rotation later in the year when Mutphy dropped it down to 7.

I think these transfers go to show how solid next years team is. Solid three guard rotation led by Lee, a potential star in Bomd at SF, and the exceptionally deep/versatile front court led by Thompson.

A little O/T, but I've watched the CIT, Vegas16, NIT, and now CBI final games.

Folks here aren't too impressed by these 'minor' tourneys (except NIT) but the CIT and CBI final games have been full of excitement. The Vegas16 tourney had bad attendance throughout. NIT had a nice crowd and energy level.

I think the Columbia fans think they won the NIT or something. They filled their small gym.

The arena at Nevada appears full and it isn't small. It is bigger than our Convo. The intensity level is very high. The CBI trophy appears bigger than the NCAA trophy. Lol.

This tourney is a lot better than what folks here give credit for.

O/T, kind of:

Felder declares for NBA, but could return to OU.

As long as he is wearing an OU jersey he'll be a pain for EMU and other college teams.

Interesting what he'll decide. I doubt his stock rises next year. His game is about as refined as it will get.

The only thing which could help him is being taller and unless they put something strange in the water at OU, it ain't happening.

He isn't like those frosh who turn pro and are 'green as grass.' Lot of them should stay and mature as players and persons.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colleg.../82648850/

Projected second round pick, which is surprising to me considering how he compares to Isaiah Thomas (on Boston). Similar "do it all" skillset with crazy athleticism. I see Felder being very successful at the NBA level.

However, if I was only projected as a 2nd rounder, I'd go back for my senior season and try to make some noise in the Big Dance. They have a loaded team coming back...why not try for one last hurrah.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/.../82677112/

Sounds like he will roll the dice and come out.

Seems his last game was in the Vegas16. Next year we'll face Brailen Neeley, his heir apparent.

(04-06-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote:  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/.../82677112/

Sounds like he will roll the dice and come out.

Seems his last game was in the Vegas16. Next year we'll face Brailen Neeley, his heir apparent.

Is Brailen Neeley related to Lorenzo Neeley?

O/T partially for EMU, but not completely:

Chris Jenkins is transferring from Detroit-Mercy.

He was very tough last December against us. Scored and rebounded very well.

He might have been out of h.s. four years now. Graduate eligible transfer????

EDIT: Now see where the player's h.s. coach is denying that Jenkins is transferring...

ESPN's Jeff Goodman had the story and verbalcommits.com picked it up.

UD-Jesuit coach says that rumor is false. Jeff Goodman might have got some bad info.

If it's true, I'd love to have that kid. Very good basketball player, and an even better young man.

(04-07-2016 10:52 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  UD-Jesuit coach says that rumor is false. Jeff Goodman might have got some bad info.

If it's true, I'd love to have that kid. Very good basketball player, and an even better young man.

FWIW, if he's staying.

According to verbalcommits.com we recruited him out of h.s..

Would be great with Bond.

Apparently Goodman has removed Jenkins from the list.

junior college point here for visit this weekend details in recruiting thread

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colleg.../82805598/

Felder hires agent. Officially done at OU.

NOT EMU related (directly) but things could be changing in the ASSISTANT coaching ranks around us.

Could affect say UofM, Oakland, UDM, etc.

http://www.umhoops.com/2016/04/12/assist...hot-board/

A key is whether or not Bacari Alexander gets the UDM job.

With two openings what does UofM do? Saddi Washington? Cornell Mann?

Would the loss of Saddi Washington hurt OU's recruiting?