http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Football...-ETSU.html

Quote:Jackson Trawick was almost born to be a Buc.

Trawick’s father, Steve, played football for East Tennessee State University in the 1970s. Jackson also has four uncles who played for the Bucs. In fact, from 1969 to ’84, there was at least one Trawick on the team at all times.

That’s 16 seasons of Trawicks.

This year, you can add another member of ETSU’s most prolific football family to the program’s legacy.

Jackson, a cornerback like his father, transferred from Division II Wingate University and is a sophomore, wearing No. 82.

“It was an easy decision,” Trawick said. “I have so much family legacy here. I like it a lot. I fit in really well. I love my teammates. My coaches are really great. I’m doing well in school.”

Trawick grew up hearing about ETSU football from his father and uncles, Bill, Lee, Don and Guy.

“At Thanksgiving dinner that’s all they talked about,” Trawick said. “I grew up hearing my dad and his four brothers talking about ETSU football.”

Jackson’s father was the third Trawick to play for the Bucs, and he took part in an ETSU win over Morehead State, quarterbacked by future Super Bowl MVP Phil Simms.

So far, Jackson has had a noticeable spring, getting plenty of reps with the regulars on defense.

“I think he’s doing a solid job,” ETSU coach Carl Torbush said. “He’s a good kid. Of course, he didn’t have a choice. I know that group. They wouldn’t like him much if he wasn’t a good kid.

“He’s got a great motor, a good athlete. It will be interesting to see what he can do.”

Having another Trawick on the team will only help increase the interest in the program from the Trawick family.

“I know all of them are proud to have him here,” Torbush said. “That’ll give them another reason to come up here. They didn’t really need another reason because they came to support us anyway. They are proud to be ETSU Bucs, and I know very much they’re proud to have him part of this program.”

Well look at that. Yet another Trawick playing for ETSU. Hope he contributes well for the team in the future,.

Surprised nobody's posted this yet:

Trawick kicked off team

(08-31-2017 01:05 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  Surprised nobody's posted this yet:

Trawick kicked off team

I've been fuming about it since yesterday afternoon.

Already saw comments on social media blaming the return of football for causing it.

And this is why I sometimes want to give up on society. Between the victim blaming, finger pointing at athletics and even just the stupidity of youth overall, I'm just amazingly irritated. My poor kids are all getting the lecture again about this all - watch out for your friends always, don't be stupid and put yourself into stupid situations (either side honestly, between jerks that can't understand the word no or crazy people that make false accusations, just don't be stupid), actually perhaps KNOW the person you get into bed with/don't randomly hook up, and the big one - NO MEANS NO - at every point of the encounter. I'm not naïve to believe that they will all listen to every bit of that and heed the advice, but I'm not a parent to stay silent and at least I know I have tried. They all also know that I will stand behind them and not accuse them of being to blame when they are stupid and are assaulted in some way or falsely accused (with proof, not just a denial). And if they are the one accused of assaulting, and I believe they actually did it - lord have mercy on them, because the law is no match for momma's wrath in this instance.

Maybe let's wait until the facts come out. People threw Brummett under the bus and he was fired from his job without cause. District attorney dismissed the charges.
Kid should've been suspended from team activities until the case was ajudicated. They're gonna keep pulling this stuff with the quick trigger and eventually do it to the wrong person with the right amount of money.

And regardless of whatever did or didn't happen, what's a 17 year old doing on Tinder posing as an adult?

(09-04-2017 08:40 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Maybe let's wait until the facts come out. People threw Brummett under the bus and he was fired from his job without cause. District attorney dismissed the charges.
Kid should've been suspended from team activities until the case was ajudicated. They're gonna keep pulling this stuff with the quick trigger and eventually do it to the wrong person with the right amount of money.

You have no "right" to be on an athletic team. The coach can absolutely kick a student off the team for being arrested, or for various other things much less serious than being arrested. It doesn't matter how much money those students would have, unless they want to waste it on a lawsuit that they would lose.

The Athletic Department kind of has to take a hard nosed approach to these types of situations. If they don't do anything, or only suspend the student, there would be outrage that athletes get special treatment and the school is bending over to keep players. While ETSU has a decent reputation of the student athletes being pretty upstanding young men and women, there is still a very prevalent attitude in the rest of the community that athletes are trouble waiting to happen. Incidents like this only re-inforce that belief.

I went and looked and unless I'm blind, the depth chart released prior to this incident didn't include Trawick on it. It could have been a case here that the bad publicity wasn't worth it for a student who wasn't really pulling their weight anyway? That and maybe with the expected legal fees and issues the court time would cause for his studies, perhaps his parents weren't really on board with him staying up here for the fall semester anyway and it was somewhat of a mutual decision to just be off the team instead of suspension until the case came before the courts.

And ultimately, he's got a lot stacked against him if he chooses to plead not guilty. Even if we assume he can prove she lied to him about the age, which is possibly difficult, she also says it wasn't consensual and he admits that they did have sex and it was consensual. Those types of he said/she said cases are tough enough, but add in the age difference and he's up against a lot. His mind probably isn't going to be on football or school honestly until it is resolved. The coaches know that and it's probably for the best that he not bring that drama to the locker room, you know?

As for the girl and why she was on Tinder? Stupidity of youth? But her actions leading up to the alleged rape shouldn't be reason for rape....ever. That starts crossing into the line of someone deserving to be raped because they were asking for it by wearing that outfit or getting drunk. No one ever deserves to be raped, even if they made dumb mistakes leading up to it. When we start blaming the victim, we play into that monster that prevents people from coming forward in the first place, because they feel the scrutiny of their actions will be almost as invasive and traumatic as the rape was. When people don't come forward, we don't get true statistics on the severity of the issue and we have a lot of rapists that go unpunished and potentially have more victims later. I hesitate using the term rape culture, as some on both sides have taken the true meaning out of it, but by strict definition, blaming the victim like that is pretty much what was originally meant by the term. When instead of saying what makes the rapist do what they do and how can we stop that, we ask what was the victim doing to encourage the rapist, what was the victim wearing, why did they put themselves in that situation, etc.

And yes, I fully admit that there are incidents of people lying about being victims and those usually make big news, however, statistics show those are much more rare situations, and people jumping to assume the victim may be lying is preventing us from getting a handle on sexual assaults on our campuses and other places.

(09-05-2017 12:39 PM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  And yes, I fully admit that there are incidents of people lying about being victims and those usually make big news, however, statistics show those are much more rare situations, and people jumping to assume the victim may be lying is preventing us from getting a handle on sexual assaults on our campuses and other places.

We will never truly know the amount because the woman is always assumed to not be lying and often that is not the case.

(09-05-2017 11:46 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 08:40 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Maybe let's wait until the facts come out. People threw Brummett under the bus and he was fired from his job without cause. District attorney dismissed the charges.
Kid should've been suspended from team activities until the case was ajudicated. They're gonna keep pulling this stuff with the quick trigger and eventually do it to the wrong person with the right amount of money.

You have no "right" to be on an athletic team. The coach can absolutely kick a student off the team for being arrested, or for various other things much less serious than being arrested. It doesn't matter how much money those students would have, unless they want to waste it on a lawsuit that they would lose.

That doesn't apply to a state employee, and ultimately it's a bad look to operate that way. And no, it wouldn't be a waste to test that in court. I'd suggest you watch what Jerry Jones is about to do to the NFL for punishing people who are innocent.
Trashing a kid when you don't have the full story is garbage, and will be used against ETSU in recruiting.

Oh, and if he met the girl off Tinder, she violated the Terms of Service to create the account which states you must be 18 years of age or older. So, either she's an adult, or she lied about her age to create a profile on a website specifically created for hooking up.

(09-05-2017 04:49 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Oh, and if he met the girl off Tinder, she violated the Terms of Service to create the account which states you must be 18 years of age or older. So, either she's an adult, or she lied about her age to create a profile on a website specifically created for hooking up.

So her punishment for lying or violating Tinder's TOS is rape? Wow.

(09-05-2017 06:42 PM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 04:49 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Oh, and if he met the girl off Tinder, she violated the Terms of Service to create the account which states you must be 18 years of age or older. So, either she's an adult, or she lied about her age to create a profile on a website specifically created for hooking up.

So her punishment for lying or violating Tinder's TOS is rape? Wow.

Did I say that? No. But how fair is that for him to be charged with the crime of statutory rape when he met someone off of a site that he truly believed was a legal adult? That's where the law hasn't caught up with our technology. It would be one thing if he were pulling a Mack Crowder or Ryan Witten and looking for a 16 year old too hook up with, but he wasn't. In this case, he believed truly he was meeting a college aged adult on a site solely intended for sexual hookups. Tinder isn't match.com, it's a site for people to meet up to screw. If he raped her, he should go to jail for rape, not statutory. The reality of that situation is the alleged victim has already established a pattern of lying in this case by doing that, and that's exactly what his lawyer is going to say.
Ultimately, he should've been suspended from all team activities until the case was adjudicated, and while I understand football isn't a right, neither is booting the kid for something that he's just been accused of. We've already seen that once with Scott Brummett and Torbush $#it the bed firing someone without cause, so did Human resources.