Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

(03-21-2016 03:44 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

(03-21-2016 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 03:44 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

I'm not so sure about that.

The only time one can be assured of failing is if one doesn't try. There's a lot of work to be done to make the SEC a strong basketball conference perennially, but I think it's a worthy goal.

1) The ability to promote ourselves throughout the collegiate sports calendar rather than just during football season and to a lesser degree baseball and softball season.

2) Hedging our bets against a future where football goes the way of boxing.

3) More revenue

Also, we should consider that while the SEC doesn't have a great basketball history that the future is unwritten. What I mean by that is that 50 years from now, major colleges will probably still be competing against each other in big time sports. Some of us on this board, if not all of us, will be dead by then, but the point is that a foundation must be laid today in order for success to come in the future. The only way any organization makes progress is to act with the future in mind rather than resigning itself to past performance.

If what is considered worthy of being undertaken is nothing more than what has already been accomplished then nothing truly great ever occurs. I know that sounds a bit like gobbledygook, but it's the way of the world.

And just a thought, if the Big 12 can do it then why can't we?

(03-22-2016 01:43 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 03:44 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

I'm not so sure about that.

The only time one can be assured of failing is if one doesn't try. There's a lot of work to be done to make the SEC a strong basketball conference perennially, but I think it's a worthy goal.

1) The ability to promote ourselves throughout the collegiate sports calendar rather than just during football season and to a lesser degree baseball and softball season.

2) Hedging our bets against a future where football goes the way of boxing.

3) More revenue

Also, we should consider that while the SEC doesn't have a great basketball history that the future is unwritten. What I mean by that is that 50 years from now, major colleges will probably still be competing against each other in big time sports. Some of us on this board, if not all of us, will be dead by then, but the point is that a foundation must be laid today in order for success to come in the future. The only way any organization makes progress is to act with the future in mind rather than resigning itself to past performance.

If what is considered worthy of being undertaken is nothing more than what has already been accomplished then nothing truly great ever occurs. I know that sounds a bit like gobbledygook, but it's the way of the world.

And just a thought, if the Big 12 can do it then why can't we?

It was an attempt at a little dark humor!?

(03-22-2016 09:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:43 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 03:44 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

I'm not so sure about that.

The only time one can be assured of failing is if one doesn't try. There's a lot of work to be done to make the SEC a strong basketball conference perennially, but I think it's a worthy goal.

1) The ability to promote ourselves throughout the collegiate sports calendar rather than just during football season and to a lesser degree baseball and softball season.

2) Hedging our bets against a future where football goes the way of boxing.

3) More revenue

Also, we should consider that while the SEC doesn't have a great basketball history that the future is unwritten. What I mean by that is that 50 years from now, major colleges will probably still be competing against each other in big time sports. Some of us on this board, if not all of us, will be dead by then, but the point is that a foundation must be laid today in order for success to come in the future. The only way any organization makes progress is to act with the future in mind rather than resigning itself to past performance.

If what is considered worthy of being undertaken is nothing more than what has already been accomplished then nothing truly great ever occurs. I know that sounds a bit like gobbledygook, but it's the way of the world.

And just a thought, if the Big 12 can do it then why can't we?

It was an attempt at a little dark humor!?

I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 09:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:43 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 03:44 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Sankey announces addition of Tranghese

Tranghese is, of course, the former Big East commissioner. If anyone knows how to promote basketball, it's this guy.

What does everyone think of this?

I'm kind of excited about it. Our league needs a boost, not just in the quality of non-conference scheduling, but in a lot of other areas. Outside of Kentucky, I don't know that anyone in our conference has a great basketball culture. It would be nice to see that change.

Of course, football will always be number 1 at most places and I think that's for the best, but the league could hit another stratosphere if we became a very strong basketball league as well.

It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

I'm not so sure about that.

The only time one can be assured of failing is if one doesn't try. There's a lot of work to be done to make the SEC a strong basketball conference perennially, but I think it's a worthy goal.

1) The ability to promote ourselves throughout the collegiate sports calendar rather than just during football season and to a lesser degree baseball and softball season.

2) Hedging our bets against a future where football goes the way of boxing.

3) More revenue

Also, we should consider that while the SEC doesn't have a great basketball history that the future is unwritten. What I mean by that is that 50 years from now, major colleges will probably still be competing against each other in big time sports. Some of us on this board, if not all of us, will be dead by then, but the point is that a foundation must be laid today in order for success to come in the future. The only way any organization makes progress is to act with the future in mind rather than resigning itself to past performance.

If what is considered worthy of being undertaken is nothing more than what has already been accomplished then nothing truly great ever occurs. I know that sounds a bit like gobbledygook, but it's the way of the world.

And just a thought, if the Big 12 can do it then why can't we?

It was an attempt at a little dark humor!?

I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 09:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:43 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  It reminds me of the old Peaches & Herb song, "Too much too little too late to ever try again."

I'm not so sure about that.

The only time one can be assured of failing is if one doesn't try. There's a lot of work to be done to make the SEC a strong basketball conference perennially, but I think it's a worthy goal.

1) The ability to promote ourselves throughout the collegiate sports calendar rather than just during football season and to a lesser degree baseball and softball season.

2) Hedging our bets against a future where football goes the way of boxing.

3) More revenue

Also, we should consider that while the SEC doesn't have a great basketball history that the future is unwritten. What I mean by that is that 50 years from now, major colleges will probably still be competing against each other in big time sports. Some of us on this board, if not all of us, will be dead by then, but the point is that a foundation must be laid today in order for success to come in the future. The only way any organization makes progress is to act with the future in mind rather than resigning itself to past performance.

If what is considered worthy of being undertaken is nothing more than what has already been accomplished then nothing truly great ever occurs. I know that sounds a bit like gobbledygook, but it's the way of the world.

And just a thought, if the Big 12 can do it then why can't we?

It was an attempt at a little dark humor!?

I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

I got it! I thought it was funny.

Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

(03-23-2016 12:40 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

I know it is a sign of getting old, which I am, but I can't find much to like in today's music at all. Maybe it's because the lyrics are poorly structured, rife with bad grammar, and frequently vulgar. If it's not that it's because there is no flow to the music. It's like if they find one good line they repeat it over and over.

I like 30's jazz, 40's Big Band, 50's Rock & Roll, 60's British Invasion & Folk, 70's & 80's just about everything, and then in the 90's the only thing I bought was Irish Folk music & Enya elevator music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's & early 80's I liked country as well. Now, it all sounds like crappy noise. BTW, I like Classical as well. So I'm not hard to please, it just has to have a good sound that progresses through different moods, and if it is sung lyrics I want to hear. I also like for a song to tell a story. I couldn't find much story in "I Like Big Butts".

(03-23-2016 02:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:40 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

I know it is a sign of getting old, which I am, but I can't find much to like in today's music at all. Maybe it's because the lyrics are poorly structured, rife with bad grammar, and frequently vulgar. If it's not that it's because there is no flow to the music. It's like if they find one good line they repeat it over and over.

I like 30's jazz, 40's Big Band, 50's Rock & Roll, 60's British Invasion & Folk, 70's & 80's just about everything, and then in the 90's the only thing I bought was Irish Folk music & Enya elevator music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's & early 80's I liked country as well. Now, it all sounds like crappy noise. BTW, I like Classical as well. So I'm not hard to please, it just has to have a good sound that progresses through different moods, and if it is sung lyrics I want to hear. I also like for a song to tell a story. I couldn't find much story in "I Like Big Butts".

I never pictured you to be an 80's hair band kind of guy JR, or doing the Moonwalk.

(03-23-2016 03:21 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:40 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I've never heard of Peaches and Herb so I wouldn't know...

That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

I know it is a sign of getting old, which I am, but I can't find much to like in today's music at all. Maybe it's because the lyrics are poorly structured, rife with bad grammar, and frequently vulgar. If it's not that it's because there is no flow to the music. It's like if they find one good line they repeat it over and over.

I like 30's jazz, 40's Big Band, 50's Rock & Roll, 60's British Invasion & Folk, 70's & 80's just about everything, and then in the 90's the only thing I bought was Irish Folk music & Enya elevator music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's & early 80's I liked country as well. Now, it all sounds like crappy noise. BTW, I like Classical as well. So I'm not hard to please, it just has to have a good sound that progresses through different moods, and if it is sung lyrics I want to hear. I also like for a song to tell a story. I couldn't find much story in "I Like Big Butts".

I never pictured you to be an 80's hairband kind of guy JR, or doing the Moonwalk.

Lenville, I could do what would later become known as the moonwalk way back in the 60's when it was just something cool to do if you were buzzed. You had to have slick leather souls and use the rubber in the heel. Some version of that was in dance way back into the 20's, and probably before. What MJ did was make the upper body stiff and motionless while he used his leg muscles to move.

That said I was not a headband wearer in the 80's. I could chill out to Mike & the Mechanics, or Dire Straits. I got into the Traveling Wilburys. The Chick bands were just fun to watch (Go-Go's & Bangles). I loved the Miami Sound Machine as well. But hey, we were into doing the shag and the Beach Music scene. It was fun, but I thought the 70's were a lot wilder, and the 60's more diverse and creative.

(03-23-2016 04:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 03:21 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:40 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That's okay. I remembered it wrong. Peaches & Herb had a song called Reunited (Rhythm & Blues) and it was out about the same time as Too Much Too Little Too Late (Johnny Mathis & Denice Williams). It was about 35 years ago and I didn't look it up. But it was an attempt at humor.

Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

I know it is a sign of getting old, which I am, but I can't find much to like in today's music at all. Maybe it's because the lyrics are poorly structured, rife with bad grammar, and frequently vulgar. If it's not that it's because there is no flow to the music. It's like if they find one good line they repeat it over and over.

I like 30's jazz, 40's Big Band, 50's Rock & Roll, 60's British Invasion & Folk, 70's & 80's just about everything, and then in the 90's the only thing I bought was Irish Folk music & Enya elevator music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's & early 80's I liked country as well. Now, it all sounds like crappy noise. BTW, I like Classical as well. So I'm not hard to please, it just has to have a good sound that progresses through different moods, and if it is sung lyrics I want to hear. I also like for a song to tell a story. I couldn't find much story in "I Like Big Butts".

I never pictured you to be an 80's hairband kind of guy JR, or doing the Moonwalk.

Lenville, I could do what would later become known as the moonwalk way back in the 60's when it was just something cool to do if you were buzzed. You had to have slick leather souls and use the rubber in the heel. Some version of that was in dance way back into the 20's, and probably before. What MJ did was make the upper body stiff and motionless while he used his leg muscles to move.

That said I was not a headband wearer in the 80's. I could chill out to Mike & the Mechanics, or Dire Straits. I got into the Traveling Wilburys. The Chick bands were just fun to watch (Go-Go's & Bangles). I loved the Miami Sound Machine as well. But hey, we were into doing the shag and the Beach Music scene. It was fun, but I thought the 70's were a lot wilder, and the 60's more diverse and creative.

You didn't experiment with this look?

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(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

(03-23-2016 04:58 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 04:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 03:21 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:40 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Ah yes, a little before my time.

Then again, I'm not terribly familiar with today's music either. Most of it is just abysmal.

I know it is a sign of getting old, which I am, but I can't find much to like in today's music at all. Maybe it's because the lyrics are poorly structured, rife with bad grammar, and frequently vulgar. If it's not that it's because there is no flow to the music. It's like if they find one good line they repeat it over and over.

I like 30's jazz, 40's Big Band, 50's Rock & Roll, 60's British Invasion & Folk, 70's & 80's just about everything, and then in the 90's the only thing I bought was Irish Folk music & Enya elevator music. In the 50's, 60's, 70's & early 80's I liked country as well. Now, it all sounds like crappy noise. BTW, I like Classical as well. So I'm not hard to please, it just has to have a good sound that progresses through different moods, and if it is sung lyrics I want to hear. I also like for a song to tell a story. I couldn't find much story in "I Like Big Butts".

I never pictured you to be an 80's hairband kind of guy JR, or doing the Moonwalk.

Lenville, I could do what would later become known as the moonwalk way back in the 60's when it was just something cool to do if you were buzzed. You had to have slick leather souls and use the rubber in the heel. Some version of that was in dance way back into the 20's, and probably before. What MJ did was make the upper body stiff and motionless while he used his leg muscles to move.

That said I was not a headband wearer in the 80's. I could chill out to Mike & the Mechanics, or Dire Straits. I got into the Traveling Wilburys. The Chick bands were just fun to watch (Go-Go's & Bangles). I loved the Miami Sound Machine as well. But hey, we were into doing the shag and the Beach Music scene. It was fun, but I thought the 70's were a lot wilder, and the 60's more diverse and creative.

You didn't experiment with this look?

Yes I'm laughing, but hell no. I had the late 60's early 70's bell bottoms with turtleneck and long hair, but I never did the 80's big hair look. By then I was button down Gitman shirts and khakis. And thank God I skipped the platform multi-color shoes with the polyester bicentennial print shirts. Denim was always optional no matter the decade.

(03-23-2016 05:01 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

Better coaches would help. Tougher OOC games earlier would toughen up the teams for league play. But the real issue will likely never be overcome. True Basketball Joneses don't like playing second fiddle to Football Heroes. Other than Kentucky there really aren't any places in the SEC where top basketball players will get top recognition on campus. Therein lies the rub and why even the best coaches would have a deuce difficult time recruiting down here.

Bear Bryant left Kentucky because he won the SEC in football and got a gold watch commemorating the event. Rupp won the SEC in basketball and got a brand new Cadillac. Bear was gone. And that's a true story. Put that in reverse with at least 12 SEC campuses and you get the picture.

(03-23-2016 05:01 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

Arkansas problem is Mike Andersons lack of recruiting. He is just like Nolan Richardson in that aspect. It's time for us to cut ties with him and hire someone with the fire to prove themselves.

(03-23-2016 05:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 05:01 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

Better coaches would help. Tougher OOC games earlier would toughen up the teams for league play. But the real issue will likely never be overcome. True Basketball Joneses don't like playing second fiddle to Football Heroes. Other than Kentucky there really aren't any places in the SEC where top basketball players will get top recognition on campus. Therein lies the rub and why even the best coaches would have a deuce difficult time recruiting down here.

Bear Bryant left Kentucky because he won the SEC in football and got a gold watch commemorating the event. Rupp won the SEC in basketball and got a brand new Cadillac. Bear was gone. And that's a true story. Put that in reverse with at least 12 SEC campuses and you get the picture.

The B12 schools still managed to put out competitive football and basketball teams across the conference. I'm not saying the SEC needs to play round ball at the ACC level, but at least produce 4-5 BB schools worthy of a NCAAT invite every year.

(03-23-2016 06:58 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 05:01 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

Arkansas problem is Mike Andersons lack of recruiting. He is just like Nolan Richardson in that aspect. It's time for us to cut ties with him and hire someone with the fire to prove themselves.

I'm giving Mike one more season before I jump off that boat officially. Nolan needed one or two NBA draftee level guys to push his squads into title contention. MA did recently lose two to the NBA, Portis and Qualls. Portis was ready for the NBA and is doing well in Chicago while Qualls needed another season or two before going. Qualls clearly didn't make the cut, although his knee injury didn't help either.

(03-23-2016 07:45 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 05:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 05:01 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 02:50 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Really the best thing the SEC could do to get it's basketball going to spend money on top coaches. The reason the B12 has gotten so tough in BB the last few years is that it is full of solid to great coaches right now. There is plenty of BB talent in the SEC footprint if you have the coaches to get the most out of it. With better coaches there is no reason the SEC couldn't equal or surpass the B12 in basketball. It's like the ACC in football where they had talent just not the coaches to get the most out of that FB talent for a long time.

Agreed. The facilities are there but need to get better coaches and staffs to develop players. As an Arkansas fan, the only name brand schools on their schedule were in the opening weekend tournament. Zero name brand ooc schools besides Texas Tech in the middle of the conference schedule.

Better coaches would help. Tougher OOC games earlier would toughen up the teams for league play. But the real issue will likely never be overcome. True Basketball Joneses don't like playing second fiddle to Football Heroes. Other than Kentucky there really aren't any places in the SEC where top basketball players will get top recognition on campus. Therein lies the rub and why even the best coaches would have a deuce difficult time recruiting down here.

Bear Bryant left Kentucky because he won the SEC in football and got a gold watch commemorating the event. Rupp won the SEC in basketball and got a brand new Cadillac. Bear was gone. And that's a true story. Put that in reverse with at least 12 SEC campuses and you get the picture.

The B12 schools still managed to put out competitive football and basketball teams across the conference. I'm not saying the SEC needs to play round ball at the ACC level, but at least produce 4-5 BB schools worthy of a NCAAT invite every year.

I totally agree. What I'm saying is that our culture is so pervasively pro football that some of the best basketball players feel more important elsewhere. They are an afterthought on most of our campuses when it comes to campus life.