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(03-26-2016 05:07 PM)utrocks84 Wrote:  as with Beckman, when you can't recruit'em steal'em. One concern when Campbell took the job was if he could recruit normal B12 territory. If he plans on feasting on Ohio, Pa. and Michigan the left overs from the B1G won't compete against the top B12 teams over a regular season, as they couldn't for Beckman at Illinois in the B1G.

Of course Beckman turned out to be a complete idiot.
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(03-26-2016 05:12 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(03-26-2016 05:07 PM)utrocks84 Wrote:  as with Beckman, when you can't recruit'em steal'em. One concern when Campbell took the job was if he could recruit normal B12 territory. If he plans on feasting on Ohio, Pa. and Michigan the left overs from the B1G won't compete against the top B12 teams over a regular season, as they couldn't for Beckman at Illinois in the B1G.

Of course Beckman turned out to be a complete idiot.

Implemented the foundation of the current program and made some pretty good staff hires while at UT. Program made consistent improvement under Coach Beckman. Tim's final season at Toledo(9-4), Rockets had a 5 point loss @OSU, 3 point@The "Cuse, and the 63-60 loss to NIU that was the tie-breaker for the MAC West berth in the MACC.
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(03-27-2016 01:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(03-26-2016 05:12 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(03-26-2016 05:07 PM)utrocks84 Wrote:  as with Beckman, when you can't recruit'em steal'em. One concern when Campbell took the job was if he could recruit normal B12 territory. If he plans on feasting on Ohio, Pa. and Michigan the left overs from the B1G won't compete against the top B12 teams over a regular season, as they couldn't for Beckman at Illinois in the B1G.

Of course Beckman turned out to be a complete idiot.

Implemented the foundation of the current program and made some pretty good staff hires while at UT. Program made consistent improvement under Coach Beckman. Tim's final season at Toledo(9-4), Rockets had a 5 point loss @OSU, 3 point@The "Cuse, and the 63-60 loss to NIU that was the tie-breaker for the MAC West berth in the MACC.

Agree that Beckman should be recognized for what he did to turn the program around and get it back on track both on and off the field---it was no small feat. Still I think that is appropriate that in defining his last season you chose three specific games that Toledo could have won but actually lost----had the Rockets managed to win either tOSU or the NIU game, we would have an entirely different perspective on that entire season.

Beckman raised the program from the depths of despair to near the summit, but somehow he just could never quite get over the top to grab that brass ring which is kind of the same way I feel about Campbell except he inherited a program in much better shape than did Beckman.
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(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:44 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  It was just reported on ch. 24 that Toledo Bowsher WR Bryce Mitchell has committed.

Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.
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(03-27-2016 10:02 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:44 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  It was just reported on ch. 24 that Toledo Bowsher WR Bryce Mitchell has committed.

Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.

Yeah, Ben was a 2nd Team All MAC selection.
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(03-27-2016 10:02 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:44 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  It was just reported on ch. 24 that Toledo Bowsher WR Bryce Mitchell has committed.

Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.

Alright! Nice. Isn't this what some schools call a "legacy" commit?
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(03-30-2016 05:30 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-27-2016 10:02 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:44 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  It was just reported on ch. 24 that Toledo Bowsher WR Bryce Mitchell has committed.

Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.

Alright! Nice. Isn't this what some schools call a "legacy" commit?

that's what we call them in the fraternity...... 04-clap2
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(03-30-2016 06:08 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 05:30 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-27-2016 10:02 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:44 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  It was just reported on ch. 24 that Toledo Bowsher WR Bryce Mitchell has committed.

Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.

Alright! Nice. Isn't this what some schools call a "legacy" commit?

that's what we call them in the fraternity...... 04-clap2

Kent Dorfman was a legacy.
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(03-31-2016 09:13 AM)mbgthroughandthrough Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 06:08 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 05:30 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(03-27-2016 10:02 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 05:47 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Yup! Cande & co. snagged a local. Gotta love it. Haven't seen him play yet but I'll definitely follow him this upcoming season.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but his Father is Ben Mitchell (big Funk)...played OG for the Rockets 1990 championship team...awesome to see him commit...hope he sticks with us.

Alright! Nice. Isn't this what some schools call a "legacy" commit?

that's what we call them in the fraternity...... 04-clap2

Kent Dorfman was a legacy.

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Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016
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(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

A 6'3" cornerback is pretty rare for the MAC. I sense a position change will occur as he fills out. That is pretty tall for a corner - I suspect he will end up as a safety or perhaps even an OLB.
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(03-31-2016 02:52 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

A 6'3" cornerback is pretty rare for the MAC. I sense a position change will occur as he fills out. That is pretty tall for a corner - I suspect he will end up as a safety or perhaps even an OLB.

Keep'em skinny and coach up his speed. There's a future for CBs that can cover the taller receivers on the end zone fade routes particularly. The 5'9" guys are helpless by height and by coverage rules.
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(03-31-2016 03:04 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 02:52 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

A 6'3" cornerback is pretty rare for the MAC. I sense a position change will occur as he fills out. That is pretty tall for a corner - I suspect he will end up as a safety or perhaps even an OLB.

Keep'em skinny and coach up his speed. There's a future for CBs that can cover the taller receivers on the end zone fade routes particularly. The 5'9" guys are helpless by height and by coverage rules.

This. Give me tall and fast corners all day.
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(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

Just saw the report on Ch. 11. Says he wants to play at home.

Special Mention Div. II All State, 1st Team Div. II All District, Special Mention 2015 All-Blade Team, 1st Team All League.

Sounds like there is some real potential there.
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(03-31-2016 05:47 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

Just saw the report on Ch. 11. Says he wants to play at home.

Special Mention Div. II All State, 1st Team Div. II All District, Special Mention 2015 All-Blade Team, 1st Team All League.

Sounds like there is some real potential there.

I think I'd trust the measurables and coaches' decisions over those politically derived "honors." Though congratulatory, there's little in those that say "DI" talent over any number of others. Until shown otherwise, IMO, he's been given a gift. Though his team has underperformed in recent years, he has been benefit of the development facilities and showcasing they have other programs do not. How much more he has left in his curve, is not a given.

Wish him the best of course and hope he uses this as any further motivation he might (or might not) need to continue his development. Great to have the possibility of another local and hopefully it will be a trend that encourages local programs that their kids have a path to college ball. My feeling, though a case for bias can easily be made, if he has Norril's recommendation, then he's the right guy.
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(03-31-2016 03:04 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 02:52 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

A 6'3" cornerback is pretty rare for the MAC. I sense a position change will occur as he fills out. That is pretty tall for a corner - I suspect he will end up as a safety or perhaps even an OLB.

Keep'em skinny and coach up his speed. There's a future for CBs that can cover the taller receivers on the end zone fade routes particularly. The 5'9" guys are helpless by height and by coverage rules.

5'10 - 5'11 is pretty typical for an NFL corner. There are some taller ones, but not many taller than 6'1. And there are at least a few 5'9 or smaller DBs there too.
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(03-31-2016 06:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 03:04 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 02:52 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  
(03-31-2016 01:40 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Another local staying home!! DB Tycen Anderson out of St. John's just verbally committed today.

http://www.scout.com/player/201501-tycen...?year=2016

A 6'3" cornerback is pretty rare for the MAC. I sense a position change will occur as he fills out. That is pretty tall for a corner - I suspect he will end up as a safety or perhaps even an OLB.

Keep'em skinny and coach up his speed. There's a future for CBs that can cover the taller receivers on the end zone fade routes particularly. The 5'9" guys are helpless by height and by coverage rules.

5'10 - 5'11 is pretty typical for an NFL corner. There are some taller ones, but not many taller than 6'1. And there are at least a few 5'9 or smaller DBs there too.

Didn't used to be a whole lot of 6'4" wrs in the NFL ether, or TE's that could run 4.6s

Trends. They ain't getting smaller. Kids coming into college will be looking at a different NFL game then the one played even last year and I think that's one particular position where the differences will be most dramatic. Each team is going to need at least one tall, speedy cover and with all the concern over head injuries, corner cover is one position probably getting knocked around a bit less than others. I think we'll even see more WRs switching sides of the ball.
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the most dangerous play in football is the full speed open field tackle on defense. for corners, safeties, nickels they have to line up and pop rbs, tight ends and receivers going full speed. this is often where head injuries come in. i don't know the numbers but I'd guess dbs have more serious head and neck injuries than any other position.
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CB Desmond Marrow was about 6'2".
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(04-01-2016 02:09 AM)pono Wrote:  the most dangerous play in football is the full speed open field tackle on defense. for corners, safeties, nickels they have to line up and pop rbs, tight ends and receivers going full speed. this is often where head injuries come in. i don't know the numbers but I'd guess dbs have more serious head and neck injuries than any other position.

First place I looked so there could easily be evidence to the contrary. CB looking like a relatively safe position to me, certainly compared to WR.

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