(03-22-2016 11:19 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Agree maybe his brother Archie would be interested, but even then Dayton is a cushy job where success can be had, Pitt is much more challenging since realignment. I also imagine Pitt is looking at Bryce Drew.

The article posted states Archie is THE hottest young coach out there now that Shaka and Brad Stevens are out of the mix. I knew he was considered up-and-coming, but didn't realize he was garnering that type of respect. If he is, then Pitt doesn't make much since for him either.

Sidenote, I've long assumed that Archie would be a natural replacement for Gottfried. I still lean that direction, but it sounds as if he can hold out for a premier job. NCSU would be a good job, and his alma mater, but not a top 15 type opening.

Anyway, I wonder if Pitt is open to Ben Howland returning? He had success there and would jump at the chance to return.

No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

(03-22-2016 12:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

I think you are being a bit harsh there. They have been to the sweet 16 5x in the last 13 years. Not to mention the Tourney in 13/14 years. There are a ton of schools that can't say that.

(03-22-2016 01:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 12:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

I think you are being a bit harsh there. They have been to the sweet 16 5x in the last 13 years. Not to mention the Tourney in 13/14 years. There are a ton of schools that can't say that.

I don't see them as an amazing job that coaches dream about in the ACC, but it's not a terrible spot. The problem is once you go there, there's not much upward mobility INSIDE the ACC. To jump up the coaching ladder you'd have to then look at golden opportunities in other conferences or the NBA.

(03-22-2016 01:43 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 12:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

I think you are being a bit harsh there. They have been to the sweet 16 5x in the last 13 years. Not to mention the Tourney in 13/14 years. There are a ton of schools that can't say that.

I don't see them as an amazing job that coaches dream about in the ACC, but it's not a terrible spot. The problem is once you go there, there's not much upward mobility INSIDE the ACC. To jump up the coaching ladder you'd have to then look at golden opportunities in other conferences or the NBA.

Oh i agree 100%, but 82 made it sound like Pitt was sisters of the poor. Let's call it what is is, a mid level P5 job. which in most cases would carry about 3-5 x the salary of a mid.

(03-22-2016 01:43 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I don't see them as an amazing job that coaches dream about in the ACC, but it's not a terrible spot. The problem is once you go there, there's not much upward mobility INSIDE the ACC. To jump up the coaching ladder you'd have to then look at golden opportunities in other conferences or the NBA.

That worked for Rick Barnes who used Clemson to land the UT job. The more likely scenario is that the conference's competition will drive their next coach to another conference where they feel they can compete for championships, a la Sendek, Odom and now Dixon.

(03-22-2016 09:54 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 09:38 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  It is a list printed in the paper. Not sure how you think that misrepresents anything. Maybe you have trouble reading? It has been acknowledged by Louisville,he was the head recruiter there at the time. I am sure he and Slick Rick are a part of the investigation and they have of course denied it.
So tell me what is misrepresented here?

(03-22-2016 08:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just read an article in Pittsburgh newspaper that has Keatts on the list there. It also mentions his possible involvement in the Louisville recruiting scandal. Interesting to see that it will play a role in his future and could be a rose for UNCW basketball. It is a pretty good job and I think he would leave in a heartbeat for a program like Pitt.

The misrepresentation is what I just bolded. You say it mentions his possible involvement in the recruiting scandal which most people would infer to mean that he has been connected somehow but in reality, the article says that "He hasn’t yet been connected to the Louisville recruiting scandal" It does say if he later is implicated, there will be issues but it does not link him to involvement at this point.

Doesn't mean he was or was not involved. The investigation may bring out that information or it may be inconclusive. I am just saying that your comment was more slanted than the article is.

Why the hell do you think the guy mentioned it in his article? Don't be quite so trusting of these guys. UNC fans are the same way with Coach Williams and how many of us really think he is clean? Follow the money and it will tell the truth. Keatts is part of the discussion there and I say it smells fishy to me!

(03-22-2016 01:59 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 09:54 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 09:38 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  It is a list printed in the paper. Not sure how you think that misrepresents anything. Maybe you have trouble reading? It has been acknowledged by Louisville,he was the head recruiter there at the time. I am sure he and Slick Rick are a part of the investigation and they have of course denied it.
So tell me what is misrepresented here?

(03-22-2016 08:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Just read an article in Pittsburgh newspaper that has Keatts on the list there. It also mentions his possible involvement in the Louisville recruiting scandal. Interesting to see that it will play a role in his future and could be a rose for UNCW basketball. It is a pretty good job and I think he would leave in a heartbeat for a program like Pitt.

The misrepresentation is what I just bolded. You say it mentions his possible involvement in the recruiting scandal which most people would infer to mean that he has been connected somehow but in reality, the article says that "He hasn’t yet been connected to the Louisville recruiting scandal" It does say if he later is implicated, there will be issues but it does not link him to involvement at this point.

Doesn't mean he was or was not involved. The investigation may bring out that information or it may be inconclusive. I am just saying that your comment was more slanted than the article is.

Keatts is part of the discussion there and I say it smells fishy to me!

yet his name has NEVER been mentioned about anything to do with it. Other than the fact that he was there at the time. You disgust me

I make it a point to ignore contrarians that constantly belittle UNCW. I think they’ll eventually go away if everyone would simply ignore them rather than searching for redeeming value.

(03-22-2016 02:05 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I make it a point to ignore contrarians that constantly belittle UNCW. I think they’ll eventually go away if everyone would simply ignore them rather than searching for redeeming value.

Unfortunately every time he goes away he comes back.

(03-22-2016 01:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 12:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

I think you are being a bit harsh there. They have been to the sweet 16 5x in the last 13 years. Not to mention the Tourney in 13/14 years. There are a ton of schools that can't say that.

But they are in the ACC now. Different ball game. The job is no better than the Clemson job was/is. Coaching at Pitt, Keatts would be fighting with one arm behind his back. No, it's not a terrible job, but why would he risk his reputation as a winner and his career, in a place where he will be glad when he finishes fourth in the conference in his good years?

(03-22-2016 03:03 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 01:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 12:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  No way he leaves for Pittsburgh. They will never compete at the top of the ACC, and he would never be able to recruit against the UNC's and Dukes in the ACC. Pennsylvania is not a basketball state, and Pitt is not a basketball school. This is a perfect example of a school that would lead to his failure...and it's a downward spiral from there.

I think you are being a bit harsh there. They have been to the sweet 16 5x in the last 13 years. Not to mention the Tourney in 13/14 years. There are a ton of schools that can't say that.

But they are in the ACC now. Different ball game. The job is no better than the Clemson job was/is. Coaching at Pitt, Keatts would be fighting with one arm behind his back. No, it's not a terrible job, but why would he risk his reputation as a winner and his career, in a place where he will be glad when he finishes fourth in the conference in his good years?

I'm not saying coach should go there. I'm just saying it's a better job than you are stating. One other thing, I'm not buying the whole "he's in the ACC now" the old Big East was in the top 3 conferences every year with the ACC. Lousiville and Cuse haven't missed a beat.

Remember when we couldn't dream of having these arguments...

(03-22-2016 03:17 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Remember when we couldn't dream of having these arguments...

Shhhhhh wound still isn't closed yet

(03-22-2016 03:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'm not buying the whole "he's in the ACC now" the old Big East was in the top 3 conferences every year with the ACC. Lousiville and Cuse haven't missed a beat.

The Big East was a really strong conference and I agree that they were always one of the top 3 leagues, but you don't think Cuse finishing 10th in the league this year is missing a beat? Cuse has been in the league three years and posted a winning regular season once.

Consider that is Syracuse, one of the top 15 jobs that I mentioned. Three years is a small window, but the current ACC is as strong as any conference I've seen. Seven tournament teams this year, six in the S16 with Louisville on probation. Pitt is competing with GT, VT and Clemson for the lower end of the middle tier.

(03-22-2016 03:35 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 03:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'm not buying the whole "he's in the ACC now" the old Big East was in the top 3 conferences every year with the ACC. Lousiville and Cuse haven't missed a beat.

The Big East was a really strong conference and I agree that they were always one of the top 3 leagues, but you don't think Cuse finishing 10th in the league this year is missing a beat? Cuse has been in the league three years and posted a winning regular season once.

Consider that is Syracuse, one of the top 15 jobs that I mentioned. Three years is a small window, but the current ACC is as strong as any conference I've seen. Seven tournament teams this year, six in the S16 with Louisville on probation. Pitt is competing with GT, VT and Clemson for the lower end of the middle tier.

THIS

Syracuse missing a beat this year had a whole lot to do with their coach being suspended and two top recruits bailing (guys that would have played immediately) because of the suspension. You cannot put to much stock in Cuse this year and you both know that.

First year in the league Cuse finished second

Hate to bust this ACC love fest up, but...

This here be the UNCW boards and a thread about Coach Keatts.

If Keatts is mentioned in an article about coaching at Pitt...in the ACC...then we're right on topic. He'll be signed to a new contract soon, so no worries....:-).

Plus, staying at UNCW where you can dominate the CAA, and have your income rise as you go to the Big Dance without unrealistic expectations, isn't a bad gig. I do not assume he will leave if he is having success here.