Charter schools suspended higher percentages of black students and students with disabilities than traditional schools did. The overall difference between suspension rates in charters versus traditional schools isn't huge: In the 2011-12 academic year, charters suspended 7.8 percent of all students, compared with 6.7 percent for noncharters. But these gaps increase when you look at who is getting suspended: In charter schools, black students and students with disabilities were suspended at higher percentages in all grades than their peers in traditional schools. In middle and high schools, 12 percent more students with disabilities and 2.5 percent more black students were suspended in charters compared with noncharters.

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Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

I doubt this is the reason charter schools have higher test scores.

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why is that a "problem?"

It's a coincidence.

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

bull****

You really are just a troll Fit.

(03-18-2016 01:32 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Charter schools suspended higher percentages of black students and students with disabilities than traditional schools did. The overall difference between suspension rates in charters versus traditional schools isn't huge: In the 2011-12 academic year, charters suspended 7.8 percent of all students, compared with 6.7 percent for noncharters. But these gaps increase when you look at who is getting suspended: In charter schools, black students and students with disabilities were suspended at higher percentages in all grades than their peers in traditional schools. In middle and high schools, 12 percent more students with disabilities and 2.5 percent more black students were suspended in charters compared with noncharters.

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So, if black students' scores are included, the charter schools have lower average scores? What are you saying about the scores of black students?

Soft racism. You gotta love it.

(03-18-2016 01:32 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Charter schools suspended higher percentages of black students and students with disabilities than traditional schools did. The overall difference between suspension rates in charters versus traditional schools isn't huge: In the 2011-12 academic year, charters suspended 7.8 percent of all students, compared with 6.7 percent for noncharters. But these gaps increase when you look at who is getting suspended: In charter schools, black students and students with disabilities were suspended at higher percentages in all grades than their peers in traditional schools. In middle and high schools, 12 percent more students with disabilities and 2.5 percent more black students were suspended in charters compared with noncharters.

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So what are you trying to say? Black kids are dumb?

Mother Jones 1.2% difference

If you don't feed the trolls, they don't come back.

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

Isn't that for the teachers and administrators to decide?

What are you driving at? Are you calling the teachers liars?

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Sounds like a parental problem rather than a school problem.

(03-18-2016 02:21 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kids more likely to have behavioral issues are suspended more from schools which require stricter behavioral issues.

I don't see the problem.

The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

Isn't that for the teachers and administrators to decide?

What are you driving at? Are you calling the teachers liars?

If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

(03-18-2016 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

Unruly? Really, what are you trying to imply in this thread? Seem like you're trying to say that blacks aren't as smart.

(03-18-2016 02:44 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

Unruly? Really, what are you trying to imply in this thread? The only thing I'm hearing is that you blacks aren't as smart.

That was funny.

(03-18-2016 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 02:21 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

Isn't that for the teachers and administrators to decide?

What are you driving at? Are you calling the teachers liars?

If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

So, everyone has to be suspended equally? Isn't it possible that the black kids actually ARE causing more problems than the others? It could be due to their upbringing, familial situation, lack of positive role models, etc. Fact is, we don't know enough about the situation to really comment.

FWIW, when I was in school, it did always seem to be the black kids (mainly 2 or 3) in my classes who would regularly disrupt class and get sent out. To a number watcher, it would look like racism. To those in the classroom, it would make sense.

(03-18-2016 02:46 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 02:21 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

Isn't that for the teachers and administrators to decide?

What are you driving at? Are you calling the teachers liars?

If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

So, everyone has to be suspended equally? Isn't it possible that the black kids actually ARE causing more problems than the others? It could be due to their upbringing, familial situation, lack of positive role models, etc. Fact is, we don't know enough about the situation to really comment.

FWIW, when I was in school, it did always seem to be the black kids (mainly 2 or 3) in my classes who would regularly disrupt class and get sent out. To a number watcher, it would look like racism. To those in the classroom, it would make sense.

But this study isn't just one classroom.

(03-18-2016 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 02:21 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  The problem is that more of the students with "behavioral issues" are black.

Why do you suppose that black students have more behavioral issues?

They don't, that's the problem.

Isn't that for the teachers and administrators to decide?

What are you driving at? Are you calling the teachers liars?

If the percentages of students getting suspended is disproportionately black then that doesn't make them liars. It makes them something else.

Playing the race card I see. Typical. Could it actually be the students fault? Why in the hades is it always someone else's fault?

Charter schools are as big a scam as for profit schools.