(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Very good point Mark. I was in school when UC was getting clocked 81-0 by Penn State and home games were attended by 5k people. I went to the Orange and Sugar Bowls and I must admit I got lump in my throat watching 20k-25k perform Down The Drive. Fans off the Ohio State's of the world can't fathom the feeling.

(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Again Mark, you post just further proves my point. You're talking about being soooooo close, but not finishing. Or you are talking about winning in the regular season. And the second BCS game is a total disappointment because of BK.

Also I am not interested in trying to objectively compare the the Bengals super bowl to the Bearcats BCS appearances, who the hell cares which is a better accomplishment, A) They were all lost and B) I don't remember the Bengals super bowl appearances at all.

(03-15-2016 10:44 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Fans off the Ohio State's of the world can't fathom the feeling.

Haha, yeah those poor bastards only know what it's like to win national championships all the freaking time or at least compete for them every single year.

(03-15-2016 10:53 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Again Mark, you post just further proves my point. You're talking about being soooooo close, but not finishing. Or you are talking about winning in the regular season. And the second BCS game is a total disappointment because of BK.

Also I am not interested in trying to objectively compare the the Bengals super bowl to the Bearcats BCS appearances, who the hell cares which is a better accomplishment, A) They were all lost and B) I don't remember the Bengals super bowl appearances at all.

I'm actively disagreeing with what you view as "being so close and not finishing."

To me by the time UC got to their 2nd BCS game they'd already accomplished more than I ever dreamed they could. To me the BCS game was bonus. A win would have been great, but going unbeaten and winning that amazing conference title game at Pitt was just unbelievable. The Cubs could win the world series this year, it won't mean as much to me or feel as grand. I think few fan bases get the truly rewarding experience the Bearcats gave us in 2008 and 2009. The fan bases that win like that tend to have been doing so for years. UC got to a level I never felt possible.

(03-15-2016 10:44 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Very good point Mark. I was in school when UC was getting clocked 81-0 by Penn State and home games were attended by 5k people. I went to the Orange and Sugar Bowls and I must admit I got lump in my throat watching 20k-25k perform Down The Drive. Fans off the Ohio State's of the world can't fathom the feeling.

Being a 1972 graduate and always remembering the last second field goal by O'Brien to beat the Redskins had always been my defining moment for UC football. It was easily replaced; as I stood in the parking lot outside the Orange Bowl stadium and watched my alma mater escorted in to the stadium area with sirens and red lights flashing to one of the "Big Bowl Games" in collegiate football. I'll never forget the goose flesh and watering eyes watching it happen!

I concur about the BCS bowls.

From the 1970's on, my hope for UC football was to get to some low to mid-tier bowl games on occasion, break into the lower echelon of the top 25 someday and see Nippert full of fans. I really believed that was the best we could ever hope for.

I remember just standing on the concourse at Nippert after UC clinched the Orange Bowl and breathing it all in. And telling my son to cherish the moment because I never could have imagined it happening.

One thing is certain: you just can't ever win enough to satisfy a fanbase. I'm sure the lunatic fringe was ready to run Urban out of Columbus last year after losing the B10 championship game. OSU's success is the exception; there are many P5 programs that could only wish for the winning UC has enjoyed this past decade in football and basketball. We've been spoiled by some success and it's perfectly acceptable to want our teams to achieve even more.

(03-15-2016 10:55 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:44 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Fans off the Ohio State's of the world can't fathom the feeling.

Haha, yeah those poor bastards only know what it's like to win national championships all the freaking time or at least compete for them every single year.

To paraphrase ex president Nixon, you cannot know the highest mountains until you have reached the deepest valleys.

I'm just glad I was old enough to understand and see the 92 final 4 and 93 Elite 8.

(03-15-2016 11:17 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:53 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Again Mark, you post just further proves my point. You're talking about being soooooo close, but not finishing. Or you are talking about winning in the regular season. And the second BCS game is a total disappointment because of BK.

Also I am not interested in trying to objectively compare the the Bengals super bowl to the Bearcats BCS appearances, who the hell cares which is a better accomplishment, A) They were all lost and B) I don't remember the Bengals super bowl appearances at all.

I'm actively disagreeing with what you view as "being so close and not finishing."

To me by the time UC got to their 2nd BCS game they'd already accomplished more than I ever dreamed they could. To me the BCS game was bonus. A win would have been great, but going unbeaten and winning that amazing conference title game at Pitt was just unbelievable. The Cubs could win the world series this year, it won't mean as much to me or feel as grand. I think few fan bases get the truly rewarding experience the Bearcats gave us in 2008 and 2009. The fan bases that win like that tend to have been doing so for years. UC got to a level I never felt possible.

I guess we're just different. I don't get all teary eyed about participating. In the end they whiffed and the end of the 2009 season was extremely aggravating.

(03-15-2016 05:52 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 11:17 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:53 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 10:35 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.

Again Mark, you post just further proves my point. You're talking about being soooooo close, but not finishing. Or you are talking about winning in the regular season. And the second BCS game is a total disappointment because of BK.

Also I am not interested in trying to objectively compare the the Bengals super bowl to the Bearcats BCS appearances, who the hell cares which is a better accomplishment, A) They were all lost and B) I don't remember the Bengals super bowl appearances at all.

I'm actively disagreeing with what you view as "being so close and not finishing."

To me by the time UC got to their 2nd BCS game they'd already accomplished more than I ever dreamed they could. To me the BCS game was bonus. A win would have been great, but going unbeaten and winning that amazing conference title game at Pitt was just unbelievable. The Cubs could win the world series this year, it won't mean as much to me or feel as grand. I think few fan bases get the truly rewarding experience the Bearcats gave us in 2008 and 2009. The fan bases that win like that tend to have been doing so for years. UC got to a level I never felt possible.

I guess we're just different. I don't get all teary eyed about participating. In the end they whiffed and the end of the 2009 season was extremely aggravating.

Not trying to or anything but by that measure and definition anyone other than the eventual national champion whiffs. Even when O$U was "competing" for NCs, they (and most of the rest of the B1G) lost several to SEC teams and got pretty much manhandled... does that mean those teams whiffed too? I was at UC in the early 80s when there was talk of shuttering the football program or downgrading it. To go from there to BCS games, whatever the results, is amazing and something no other school like UC has accomplished. Nor has any school in the P5 that wasn't already a major power done so with the possible exception of The U.

(03-15-2016 07:35 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

OSU, UK and Louisville are over 100 miles away. Those schools are not local. I can tell you having lived in Columbus nobody up there considers Cincinnati area sports local (they are mostly Browns/Indians fans up there anyway).

Having grown up in Worthington(N. Cols. Suburb) and attending OSU, I can tell you without a doubt that the Reds were the team and probably still are in MLB. UC gets a lot of love in Columbus. UC is a popular school for Columbus kids. UC even gets decent coverage from the Dispatch.
The Browns and Steelers are both popular throughout all of Ohio. The Bengals are behind the 8 ball on this one.
I can promise you that Columbus people identify with Ohio teams and have a strong natural tendency to pull for anything Ohio- including UC.
After moving here, I was stunned to discover the antipathy towards OSU. Now I understand that is a large part due to the provincialism inside of 275.
Nothing like that exists towards UC in Columbus.

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

really?!?!?! We don't care about ohio state success, uofl, uk, xu, or ud success...get a clue loser

Mick can complain about the refs, shot clock operator, and whatever else in the mwc. see ya

(03-20-2016 06:53 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Mick can complain about the refs, shot clock operator, and whatever else in the mwc. see ya

(03-20-2016 06:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

really?!?!?! We don't care about ohio state success, uofl, uk, xu, or ud success...get a clue loser

Please refer to my earlier post. Many people have multiple, even synergistic, affiliations. I think it's kind of cute how some UC fans hate the rest of Ohio.

(03-20-2016 08:09 PM)OhioIsMySacredHome Wrote:  

(03-20-2016 06:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

really?!?!?! We don't care about ohio state success, uofl, uk, xu, or ud success...get a clue loser

Please refer to my earlier post. Many people have multiple, even synergistic, affiliations. I think it's kind of cute how some UC fans hate the rest of Ohio.

I don't think people on this forum hate the rest of Ohio, just Ohio State. You, as an OSU troll, believe it should always be unicorns and rainbows. But we have been slapped at and slapped down by Ohio State and the Ohio State backers in the Ohio legislature that we just don't buy that. Your school would not even play us in basketball from 1962 until Huggins was fired and our program was completely on the ropes. We, as UC fans, do not want to share our allegeance. We are completely happy the way we are and your and other troll presence really isn't called for.

I lived in CBus for 7 years in the 90s.
There was no love for UC while I lived there. It was either arrogance or disdain.
CBus split between Reds/Indians and Browns/Bengals with some Steeler fans.

Buckeyes chose to play UC in bball ONLY in the one year when they knew UC was down due to the Huggins firing. ChickenSchit.

(03-20-2016 06:36 PM)OhioIsMySacredHome Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:35 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

OSU, UK and Louisville are over 100 miles away. Those schools are not local. I can tell you having lived in Columbus nobody up there considers Cincinnati area sports local (they are mostly Browns/Indians fans up there anyway).

Having grown up in Worthington(N. Cols. Suburb) and attending OSU, I can tell you without a doubt that the Reds were the team and probably still are in MLB. UC gets a lot of love in Columbus. UC is a popular school for Columbus kids. UC even gets decent coverage from the Dispatch.
The Browns and Steelers are both popular throughout all of Ohio. The Bengals are behind the 8 ball on this one.
I can promise you that Columbus people identify with Ohio teams and have a strong natural tendency to pull for anything Ohio- including UC.
After moving here, I was stunned to discover the antipathy towards OSU. Now I understand that is a large part due to the provincialism inside of 275.
Nothing like that exists towards UC in Columbus.

Columbus is a Cleveland pro sports town. The Indians are definitely more popular here than the Reds, especially now that the Clippers are their AAA team.

I have always felt that all of the major CBB teams in Ohio should play each other as often as possible. This seems to be the best region in the state for CBB in terms of teams and interest.
OSU would probably not suck as bad as they do in hoops if they played UC, X, UD and other in state schools prior to conference play.
The Reds abdicated their throne in Columbus. I don't hate on the Tribe- I like them. However, AL MLB is baseball blasphemy. The Reds could have affiliated with the Clippers a few years back but happily chose the Bats instead. I can see how that would push the straddler over but most people I know still love their Reds.
The problem with UC fans is their insistence on disavowing any other Ohio based fans. I love OSU football and really like UC football. I buy tickets to both. UC is extremely important to the long term success to the region and the state. I happen to be staked in that success.

(03-20-2016 09:10 PM)OhioIsMySacredHome Wrote:  I have always felt that all of the major CBB teams in Ohio should play each other as often as possible. This seems to be the best region in the state for CBB in terms of teams and interest.
OSU would probably not suck as bad as they do in hoops if they played UC, X, UD and other in state schools prior to conference play.
The Reds abdicated their throne in Columbus. I don't hate on the Tribe- I like them. However, AL MLB is baseball blasphemy. The Reds could have affiliated with the Clippers a few years back but happily chose the Bats instead. I can see how that would push the straddler over but most people I know still love their Reds.
The problem with UC fans is their insistence on disavowing any other Ohio based fans. I love OSU football and really like UC football. I buy tickets to both. UC is extremely important to the long term success to the region and the state. I happen to be staked in that success.

UC fans generally cheer for all of the other Ohio Public Universities (when they aren't playing UC) except tOSU.