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RE: Matt Brady fired
(03-14-2016 10:34 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:31 AM)lexduke398 Wrote:  If your cheating, being dishonest, stealing, doing bad things, not working hard, a sleeze ball, or having losing season after losing yes... But after two straight competitive winning seasons and none of the other... No.

He went 1 and done in 3 straight CAA Tournaments, losing by an average of 13.7 points in those 3 contests.

I hardly call that "competitive".

Exactly right. We may not win the CAA tourney every year, but we should at least be "in the hunt" most years. We "scheduled" a bunch of those 20 wins, but now struggle to beat Bill and Gary. Making the NCAA once in a decade on a down year for the CAA is not competitive.
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(03-14-2016 10:44 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:34 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:31 AM)lexduke398 Wrote:  If your cheating, being dishonest, stealing, doing bad things, not working hard, a sleeze ball, or having losing season after losing yes... But after two straight competitive winning seasons and none of the other... No.

He went 1 and done in 3 straight CAA Tournaments, losing by an average of 13.7 points in those 3 contests.

I hardly call that "competitive".

Exactly right. We may not win the CAA tourney every year, but we should at least be "in the hunt" most years. We "scheduled" a bunch of those 20 wins, but now struggle to beat Bill and Gary. Making the NCAA once in a decade on a down year for the CAA is not competitive.

I don't completely disagree with this, but that also means no teams in the CAA are competitive, correct?
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MB's overall losing record in the CAA and the CAAT says it all. We were average to a bit below average in games that mattered. Throw in the other things in JB's note and it paints a complete portrait. It was time. I think that MB will benefit by the part, too. JMU has an opportunity now to make something happen. I hope we don't go on the cheap. But, wouldn't be surprised.
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I like that they are using Kenny Brooks as a consultant. Smart move.
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(03-14-2016 10:45 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  I don't completely disagree with this, but that also means no teams in the CAA are competitive, correct?

No, it doesn't. JMU isn't near the bottom of the conference, but there really wasn't a whole lot for Brady to be able to brag about for that particular season. The league was ranked 22nd in D-I (based on RPI), and of course the Dukes got a 16-seed as a result.

Among the "down years" the CAA has had, that was the lowest point in recent memory. The 14 NU got last season and the 13 UNCW got this year aren't a gigantic step forward, but it's the difference between basically a guaranteed loss (as we know, there's never been a 16 that has beaten a 1) and a legitimate upset special opportunity.
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(03-14-2016 10:54 AM)dukesfan4010 Wrote:  I like that they are using Kenny Brooks as a consultant. Smart move.

Hoping he pulls a Dick Cheney and nominates Kenny Brooks
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(03-14-2016 10:57 AM)Dukesfan71 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:54 AM)dukesfan4010 Wrote:  I like that they are using Kenny Brooks as a consultant. Smart move.

Hoping he pulls a Dick Cheney and nominates Kenny Brooks

I hope they nominate Brooks for AD. And Harry Minium for President.
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(03-14-2016 11:04 AM)2Buck Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:57 AM)Dukesfan71 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:54 AM)dukesfan4010 Wrote:  I like that they are using Kenny Brooks as a consultant. Smart move.

Hoping he pulls a Dick Cheney and nominates Kenny Brooks

I hope they nominate Brooks for AD. And Harry Minium for President.

I think this has as much of a chance of happening as JMU booting Alger and making Dr. Warner the President...and for similar reasons...both would much rather be more involved with the students/athletes than the bureaucracy. However, yes.
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(03-14-2016 10:55 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:45 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  I don't completely disagree with this, but that also means no teams in the CAA are competitive, correct?

No, it doesn't. JMU isn't near the bottom of the conference, but there really wasn't a whole lot for Brady to be able to brag about for that particular season. The league was ranked 22nd in D-I (based on RPI), and of course the Dukes got a 16-seed as a result.

Among the "down years" the CAA has had, that was the lowest point in recent memory. The 14 NU got last season and the 13 UNCW got this year aren't a gigantic step forward, but it's the difference between basically a guaranteed loss (as we know, there's never been a 16 that has beaten a 1) and a legitimate upset special opportunity.

I couldn't imagine a more special opportunity for UNCW on Thursday. I imagine beating Dook there would be so so sweet for Seahawks fans.
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Lex fill this form out and get back to us

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(03-14-2016 10:43 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:37 AM)2Buck Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 10:24 AM)RamDawg Wrote:  
(03-14-2016 07:36 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If Bourne doesn't hire a superstar coach that instantly elevates recruiting and fundraising for the convo, then Bourne's neck will be on a noose.

What is the bar for a new coach's salary?
$500,000 ?
$600,000 ?
$700,000 ?

The investment must match the enormity of the New Convo project.

It all depends on what the goals are for the men's basketball program are short and long term. It's my opinion that anything less than $500K (or a whole lot of incentives) doesn't get a coach that can recruit athletes that will consistently get you playing for CAA titles and reasonable opportunities to dance in March. Success brings in money, bring in money you get a new convo, get a new convo and you bring in better recruits.

New Arena.

I keep saying it. Moving forward this admin is going to go outside their comfort zone to get it funded. How far (COA, salary, etc) we will see but the longer it takes the more drastic the measures they'll take. At the football roadshow last year it was all Bourne could think about. I'm enjoying the show so far.

I think so too. I could see them paying out of their comfort zones to get a big name as long as that big name doesn't have the baggage to go with it. Going the assistant coach route may be dangerous.

I agree that the new coach could have a lot to do with the new arena funding. This may be an instance of 'you have to spend money to make money'. I'd be willing to bet that there are some big donors for the arena that have money on the table and are saying they'll only give if a certain level of coach is hired. And the only way we'll get that level of coach is COA's plus a high salary. Spend the money on the coach and athletes and I think we'll see more money coming in for the new arena. CK is a money man...hopefully he can convince Alger to step up the funds so they can see a larger return. With Fogler and Brooks consulting (and the recent football and softball hires), I have some confidence that they'll surprise us.

Having the arena approved, but just sitting out there waiting for funding (when Alger was supposed to be the fundraising pro) has to be embarrassing for them. They'll be looking to turn that around.
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(03-14-2016 11:17 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Lex fill this form out and get back to us

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(03-14-2016 11:17 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Lex fill this form out and get back to us

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Good to see you don't reserve this exclusively for pro-FBSers. Well done.
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Deez, your butthurt comments are ridiculous. Some people just don't like seeing their beloved University's athletic department not realizing its potential, which we are not. If you think we are in good hands, then so be it, you're entitled to your own opinion, just like those of us that realize we are in less than capable hands.
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(03-14-2016 11:33 AM)Dadgum Wrote:  Deez, your butthurt comments are ridiculous. Some people just don't like seeing their beloved University's athletic department not realizing its potential, which we are not. If you think we are in good hands, then so be it, you're entitled to your own opinion, just like those of us that realize we are in less than capable hands.

In this case I think he used it properly. Deez is supporting the coaching change and steps to help us reach our potential (or get back to our potential as the case may be).
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(03-14-2016 07:17 AM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  it's weird to me that the admin opted not to enlist the help of Carr... I feel like Carr has been there for BFS expansion, 2012 study that said "yes move up", withers, houston, etc.

I recommend that we pay Carr $75,000 to study the potential impact of our luring Coach K away from Duke. We should then ignore the results while we deliberate endlessly about the validity / implications of its findings.
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those of you who think we're in less capable hands can't get beyond your own raging agenda and personal hatred for certain administrative positions at JMU to contribute thoughtful and educated conversation about the problems (AND THE SUCCESSES) we have at JMU.
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(03-14-2016 09:40 AM)lexduke398 Wrote:  I see none of you actually care about the players... They didn't come to the middle of nowhere Virginia, to play in Airplane Hanger with a Basketball court in the middle of it.... They came to play for Matt Brady. Coaches become a huge part of a student athletes life... For many like a second father, for some the only father figure they know. I guess its more about W's and L's and making Forbes and the high dollar folks happy, then actually giving a darn about the student Athletics.. Wow. You are part of what is wrong with College sports.......

Now they can be grown ups and recognize college basketball is a business and they are only 2 semesters removed from getting a degree that will help them in the real world. 03-phew
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I got a new coach my senior year at JMU. His name was Lou Campanelli. Coulda done worse, I suppose!
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(03-14-2016 07:36 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Brady did a very good job considering the adversity he faced in this program and he will land on his feet somewhere. I will miss his work ethic, integrity, and willingness to talk straight on all topics.

If Bourne doesn't hire a superstar coach that instantly elevates recruiting and fundraising for the convo, then Bourne's neck will be on a noose.

The plate is set for instant success next year regardless of the coach. Returning 7 seniors and adding a proven college player in Snowden. Anything at all from the freshmen is icing on the cake. Somebody will be walking into a pretty sweet situation.

What is the bar for a new coach's salary?
$500,000 ?
$600,000 ?
$700,000 ?

The investment must match the enormity of the New Convo project.

Bourne is as good as tenured, never happen, MBB could go 0-30 next three seasons and Bourne would get a hall pass from the jokers on this board and the current university admin.
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