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RE: Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Allegedly Due To Trump
(03-10-2016 03:56 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:50 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:35 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:15 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 02:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The fact that the GOP isn't incredibly excited by this is proof that they are fools.

Prove that these aren't just Dems choosing to vote (given the foregone conclusion of their race) for their easiest path to victory. Trump is going to have egg on his face bragging about all these new voters he's bringing into the party, only to see them all vote for Hilldawg in November.

If true, and not claiming it is, doesn't that mean Clinton is so weak that she has to face who the Dems think is the most beatable Republican in order to win?
Wouldn't that mean that the Dems fear Cruz, Rubio and Kasich more than Trump?

They absolutely fear Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich more. Despite what Trump says (which is the exact opposite of the truth), they all beat her in every poll while Trump loses to her (by a wide margin) in every poll.

Who's to say the republican voters aren't screwing those polls? The reason I ask is because you are suggesting that the Dems are choosing the Republican candidate and if that is true, then All the others never had a chance anyway.

If Rubio and Kasich would leave, Cruz would beat Trump. Trump has a national ceiling of ~35%, and the main reason he is still winning states is the fact that there are still another 3 candidates dividing the remaining 60-70%. If Rubio had dropped out before Super Tuesday, Cruz would have taken all 155 of Texas' delegates because he would have cracked >50%. Had that been the case, Cruz and Trump would actually be tied right now -- 410-410.

For the moderates Trump may bring in, I think he will lose just as many if not more conservatives. Take me, for example. I prefer Cruz, but would run to pull the lever for any of Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich. If Trump is our nominee, I haven't made up my mind if I'll just leave the presidency blank, write in Cruz, or even actually vote for Hillary. If a liberal is going to be president, I'll take the liar over the nutjob narcissist, who has proven to have no grip in reality. I have zero confidence in his temperament or judgment whatsoever. I'm not one to give comedians credit for political punditry, but John Oliver was spot on on Trump when he said -- "I'm not even sure he knows he's lying, I just don't think he cares what the truth is".

I'd rather suffer for another 4 years than have Donald Trump become the face of what is means to be a conservative.
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Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Allegedly Due To Trump
I don't know how it plays out in other states but in NC voter registration and voting don't come close to matching up. There are many, many people that continue to maintain registration as Democrats but consistently vote GOP. There are many varied reasons for this but I for one long for the day when these folks went ahead and switched their affiliation.
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RE: Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Allegedly Due To Trump
(03-10-2016 03:15 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 02:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The fact that the GOP isn't incredibly excited by this is proof that they are fools.

Prove that these aren't just Dems choosing to vote (given the foregone conclusion of their race) for their easiest path to victory. Trump is going to have egg on his face bragging about all these new voters he's bringing into the party, only to see them all vote for Hilldawg in November.

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RE: Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Allegedly Due To Trump
(03-10-2016 05:31 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I don't know how it plays out in other states but in NC voter registration and voting don't come close to matching up. There are many, many people that continue to maintain registration as Democrats but consistently vote GOP. There are many varied reasons for this but I for one long for the day when these folks went ahead and switched their affiliation.

I know in Kentucky, even today a lot of folks are registered Democrat for the very reason that for over a century the Democrats controlled everything, including Dog catcher. The Republicans didn't even field a candidate in many cases. The primaries were the only way you could choose the candidate to make the ballot. There was no crossover voting and independents could not vote in the primary elections. Also even trying to get bids on, or hired into a government job, You were vetted to see how You were registered. Things changed when November came around and You pulled the curtain to vote and since the 1970's the Republicans made some huge gains and now control almost all statewide elections including Governor, U.S. Senate and all but 1 U.S. congressmen and control the Kentucky State Senate and are only 3 shy of taking the State House. 04-cheers
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RE: Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Allegedly Due To Trump
(03-11-2016 06:38 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 05:31 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I don't know how it plays out in other states but in NC voter registration and voting don't come close to matching up. There are many, many people that continue to maintain registration as Democrats but consistently vote GOP. There are many varied reasons for this but I for one long for the day when these folks went ahead and switched their affiliation.

I know in Kentucky, even today a lot of folks are registered Democrat for the very reason that for over a century the Democrats controlled everything, including Dog catcher. The Republicans didn't even field a candidate in many cases. The primaries were the only way you could choose the candidate to make the ballot. There was no crossover voting and independents could not vote in the primary elections. Also even trying to get bids on, or hired into a government job, You were vetted to see how You were registered. Things changed when November came around and You pulled the curtain to vote and since the 1970's the Republicans made some huge gains and now control almost all statewide elections including Governor, U.S. Senate and all but 1 U.S. congressmen and control the Kentucky State Senate and are only 3 shy of taking the State House. 04-cheers

That is a lot of it here too. Primaries need to be closed, with only registered party members voting in primaries. People need to pick a side or be neutral (unaffilitated) and wait for the general.
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