(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

(03-05-2016 11:19 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

Nice diversion

(03-05-2016 11:25 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:19 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

Nice diversion

Squirrel!!!!

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

(03-05-2016 11:19 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

A female in swimming attire.......all that's missing is some carrots and a Marshall poster.

(03-05-2016 04:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

That's an easy one: the NCAA said so, after they performed a thorough investigation where they reviewed the facts. Here are their words:

"The case did not involve a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control. There was also no allegation that the head coach lacked control in this case"

Translation: neither Hud, any other coaches or anyone else at the school were involved with the issue.

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

That's an easy one: the NCAA said so, after they performed a thorough investigation where they reviewed the facts. Here are their words:

"The case did not involve a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control. There was also no allegation that the head coach lacked control in this case"

Translation: neither Hud, any other coaches or anyone else at the school were involved with the issue.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

(03-05-2016 06:49 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

That's an easy one: the NCAA said so, after they performed a thorough investigation where they reviewed the facts. Here are their words:

"The case did not involve a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control. There was also no allegation that the head coach lacked control in this case"

Translation: neither Hud, any other coaches or anyone else at the school were involved with the issue.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

But she told me you were just kidding bro

(03-06-2016 01:23 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:49 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

That's an easy one: the NCAA said so, after they performed a thorough investigation where they reviewed the facts. Here are their words:

"The case did not involve a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control. There was also no allegation that the head coach lacked control in this case"

Translation: neither Hud, any other coaches or anyone else at the school were involved with the issue.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

But she told me you were just kidding bro

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

You asked "Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?"

The facts "used to form those statements" were provided to you. That is what you asked for. As is typical of you, now you say you asked for something else.

(03-06-2016 07:46 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 10:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yep, ULL is scared, very scared this might happen.

Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

You asked "Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?"

The facts "used to form those statements" were provided to you. That is what you asked for. As is typical of you, now you say you asked for something else.

No facts indicating the guilt of anyone other than Saunders were shared.

(03-05-2016 06:49 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

What facts do you have to prove Coach Hud or anyone else in the athletic dept knew nothing of Saunders actions?

That's an easy one: the NCAA said so, after they performed a thorough investigation where they reviewed the facts. Here are their words:

"The case did not involve a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control. There was also no allegation that the head coach lacked control in this case"

Translation: neither Hud, any other coaches or anyone else at the school were involved with the issue.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

You are asking me to prove a negative. That's impossible.

"If there is a claim proposed and that claim is disputed, the burden of proof falls onto the proponent of the claim. If there is no agreeably adequate evidence to support a claim, the claim could be considered to be an argument from ignorance."

I claimed that Hud was not involved in Saunders' illicit activity. You challenged me on that assertion.

I supported my assertion with an actual quote (fact) from the NCAA review stating that there was no failure to monitor or lack of institutional control, including that there was no allegation that the head coach lacked control in the case.

Are you (and stodgy) claiming Hud knew what was going on? If that's the case, you then need to produce some evidence to back up that claim.

(03-05-2016 06:49 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

But, just so we can agree on something, I'll go ahead and stipulate that you are lousy in bed.

(03-06-2016 07:52 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 07:46 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:11 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  Yes, that seems to be some completly unbiased opinions there, alright.
Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?

FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

You asked "Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?"

The facts "used to form those statements" were provided to you. That is what you asked for. As is typical of you, now you say you asked for something else.

No facts indicating the guilt of anyone other than Saunders were shared.

You didn't ask for "facts indicating the guilt of anyone other than Saunders." You asked for facts as to why @ Lafayette may not want more evidence to come to light. Those facts were provided to you.

Maybe the HC and AD knew what Saunders was doing, maybe they didn't. Unless Saunders testifies that will remain an open question.
@ Lafayette as an institution was guilty of cheating. That can not be argued. Academic fraud is, I would think, the most serious violation an academic institution can commit. From @ Lafayette's "name game," to wearing UL on their uniforms (clearly in violation of the law), to academic fraud, cheating appears to be cultural @ Lafayette.

Over the four year span in question, the golden era of Cajun football, @ Lafayette won 14 games. Will the SBC return the money to the NCAA for the 2 NO Bowls that were never played? If not, will @ Lafayette return their share? Will @ Lafayette return those 2 trophies?

(03-06-2016 08:09 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:49 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 04:58 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

No one accused him, not the same as he didn't know. Because my girlfriend didn't publicly say I was lousy in bed, doesn't mean I'm not lousy in bed.

But, just so we can agree on something, I'll go ahead and stipulate that you are lousy in bed.

You certainly make personal comments to people you don't agree with. Bad form

(03-06-2016 11:57 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 07:52 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 07:46 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:24 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 03:11 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  FACT: The only person who knows exactly what happened, including who knew what, is Saunders
FACT: Saunders did not testify
FACT: No one knows what Saunders testimony would have been in the @ Lafayette case, or what it will be if he testifies in the Ole Miss case
FACT: To my knowledge, no one has posted anything different than the facts stated above

None of any of that proves that UL is 'scared, very scared' about anything. To believe that we are is merely an opinion, and worth nothing.

You asked "Care to share with the rest of us the facts that used to form those statements?"

The facts "used to form those statements" were provided to you. That is what you asked for. As is typical of you, now you say you asked for something else.

No facts indicating the guilt of anyone other than Saunders were shared.

You didn't ask for "facts indicating the guilt of anyone other than Saunders." You asked for facts as to why @ Lafayette may not want more evidence to come to light. Those facts were provided to you.

No. You just provided facts on what you hope might also happen. You have not provided one shred of evidence to prove that we are 'scared, very scared' of anything else happening, which is what I had asked for.

Maybe the HC and AD knew what Saunders was doing, maybe they didn't. Unless Saunders testifies that will remain an open question.

No. It only remains an open question (and hopeful thinking) on your part. The rest of the world, including us, has moved on.

@ Lafayette as an institution was guilty of cheating. That can not be argued.

That is a lie: we had one rogue coach who cheated. The NCAA has specifically cleared the program, admin, and all other coaches from further wrong doing. Not that that will stop you from saying malicious things about innocent people: condemning innocent folks in the most heavy handed way possible just seems like something you enjoy doing. I can only imagine the psychology behind that.

Academic fraud is, I would think, the most serious violation an academic institution can commit.

Hyperbole, wishful thinking and just plain bad form on your part.

From @ Lafayette's "name game," to wearing UL on their uniforms (clearly in violation of the law), to academic fraud, cheating appears to be cultural @ Lafayette.

In regards to your constant whining about the 'name game,' take two midol pills every four hours and you....

Over the four year span in question, the golden era of Cajun football, @ Lafayette won 14 games. Will the SBC return the money to the NCAA for the 2 NO Bowls that were never played? If not, will @ Lafayette return their share? Will @ Lafayette return those 2 trophies?

How ridiculous. To think of all the time and energy you must waste on thinking this stuff up. We have complied with any and all penalties.