I agree. There are plenty of security agencies that are will to take her money.

(02-20-2016 09:36 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 09:23 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Actions have consequences.

This.

She has every right to express her freedom of speech. A well, the police have every right to not provide voluntarily paid security to her shows as a consequence of her exercising her freedom of speech....

I think boycotting also has the aspect of encouraging people to not attend the concert. And the police have every right to support such an economic boycott.

Exactly. I mean the boycotted Baltimore.lol

(02-20-2016 11:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I agree. There are plenty of security agencies that are will to take her money.

You volunteering your "services"?

I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Then tell us oh wise sage, how would you go about solving the problem? Or continue taking pot shots from the cheap seats. It's what you do best.

(02-20-2016 01:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Then tell us oh wise sage, how would you go about solving the problem? Or continue taking pot shots from the cheap seats. It's what you do best.

If I'm against police brutality and on the side of black civilians (which I already am), I make friends with as many local police as I can. It would give me an understanding of why they feel the way they do regarding their approach to their job. I already do this btw, I collect patches and gave my own to Cary PD.

Now if I were on the side of the police (which again, I already am) I'd make friends with individuals from these neighborhoods or at least make a presence down there. That'll give you a good understanding of how they feel and why they may feel this way about police.

Having two sides known simply as Police and BLM takes away an amount of humanity. Becoming more self-aware through positive exposure would help you see the shortcomings of your own side of the argument.

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Im sure the solution lies somewhere in the middle of this mess. Unfortunately that seems to not be how things get expressed these days. Everyone now is dug in. We are a divided nation in many ways.

(02-20-2016 02:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Then tell us oh wise sage, how would you go about solving the problem? Or continue taking pot shots from the cheap seats. It's what you do best.

If I'm against police brutality and on the side of black civilians (which I already am), I make friends with as many local police as I can. It would give me an understanding of why they feel the way they do regarding their approach to their job. I already do this btw, I collect patches and gave my own to Cary PD.

Now if I were on the side of the police (which again, I already am) I'd make friends with individuals from these neighborhoods or at least make a presence down there. That'll give you a good understanding of how they feel and why they may feel this way about police.

Having two sides known simply as Police and BLM takes away an amount of humanity. Becoming more self-aware through positive exposure would help you see the shortcomings of your own side of the argument.

We have lost the sense of neighborhood in America. There was a time when the police knew everyone,were a part of the neighborhood and were respected. I think getting back to having more localized policing would help. Id like to see somehow the return of "peace officers". The next door neighbor of my Grandfather was the retired Chief of Police in his city. He always said that the thing he was most proud of in his entire career was that he never fired his weapon on duty. He was that officer that knew everyone and was respected. I understand the times have changed...but...somehow we need to get back to this type of policing. What we have now is an adversarial
paradigm..not one of mutual respect and cooperation.

(02-21-2016 10:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 02:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Then tell us oh wise sage, how would you go about solving the problem? Or continue taking pot shots from the cheap seats. It's what you do best.

If I'm against police brutality and on the side of black civilians (which I already am), I make friends with as many local police as I can. It would give me an understanding of why they feel the way they do regarding their approach to their job. I already do this btw, I collect patches and gave my own to Cary PD.

Now if I were on the side of the police (which again, I already am) I'd make friends with individuals from these neighborhoods or at least make a presence down there. That'll give you a good understanding of how they feel and why they may feel this way about police.

Having two sides known simply as Police and BLM takes away an amount of humanity. Becoming more self-aware through positive exposure would help you see the shortcomings of your own side of the argument.

We have lost the sense of neighborhood in America. There was a time when the police knew everyone,were a part of the neighborhood and were respected. I think getting back to having more localized policing would help. Id like to see somehow the return of "peace officers". The next door neighbor of my Grandfather was the retired Chief of Police in his city. He always said that the thing he was most proud of in his entire career was that he never fired his weapon on duty. He was that officer that knew everyone and was respected. I understand the times have changed...but...somehow we need to get back to this type of policing. What we have now is an adversarial
paradigm..not one of mutual respect and cooperation.

We need the nuclear family back and the positive portrayal of police officers in the media.

(02-20-2016 11:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Exactly. I mean the boycotted Baltimore.lol

Who boycotted Baltimore?

(02-21-2016 07:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 10:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 02:19 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:52 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 01:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I tell you one thing: Both sides of this argument lack the self-awareness to do their part to solve the problem.

Then tell us oh wise sage, how would you go about solving the problem? Or continue taking pot shots from the cheap seats. It's what you do best.

If I'm against police brutality and on the side of black civilians (which I already am), I make friends with as many local police as I can. It would give me an understanding of why they feel the way they do regarding their approach to their job. I already do this btw, I collect patches and gave my own to Cary PD.

Now if I were on the side of the police (which again, I already am) I'd make friends with individuals from these neighborhoods or at least make a presence down there. That'll give you a good understanding of how they feel and why they may feel this way about police.

Having two sides known simply as Police and BLM takes away an amount of humanity. Becoming more self-aware through positive exposure would help you see the shortcomings of your own side of the argument.

We have lost the sense of neighborhood in America. There was a time when the police knew everyone,were a part of the neighborhood and were respected. I think getting back to having more localized policing would help. Id like to see somehow the return of "peace officers". The next door neighbor of my Grandfather was the retired Chief of Police in his city. He always said that the thing he was most proud of in his entire career was that he never fired his weapon on duty. He was that officer that knew everyone and was respected. I understand the times have changed...but...somehow we need to get back to this type of policing. What we have now is an adversarial
paradigm..not one of mutual respect and cooperation.

We need the nuclear family back and the positive portrayal of police officers in the media.

I'd agree with a positive portrayal of officers, but it would be irresponsible to cover up the problems of their organizations in that portrayal.

(02-21-2016 07:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 11:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Exactly. I mean the boycotted Baltimore.lol

Who boycotted Baltimore?

Common sense and decency.