Give him a 5yr. extension. I want there to be No Excuses from his gang. I have the feeling though some would STILL not get it. I did. When they hired him.

(02-19-2016 02:09 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 01:42 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I don't think Cronin needs to be replaced. You don't replace someone that has been to 5 straight NCAA tournaments.

I hope that streak continues but it is questionable.

I still don't like the offense, but if UC wins I can live with it.

Maybe he just needs an offensive coordinator like a football team has.

There's alot more problems than just the offense.

For all the talk of Bearcat toughness this team is weak. Ellis and Deberry and Thomas are constantly throwing up bad shots and crazy jump hooks and mid air double clutch shots. How many times have you seen them dunk on someone. How many times have you seen them shoot thru someone. I don't recall Danny Fortson ever shooting a jump hook or a crazy double clutch shot. I don't expect these guys to be Fortson, but for cripes sake, Deberry is 6'9" 275 lbs. Use your weight and strength and just overpower the opponent. For all of Ellis' anger he never uses it in game action to dunk on someone.

Player development just isn't there. Tell me one player on this team who went for good to great. Tell me 5 players in Micks head coaching career at UC that went from good to great.

These comments from Mick scare me....."I feel bad for Octavius, he didn’t try to miss layups. I feel bad for Gary Clark on the free throw lane violation Jake (Jacob Evans) missed a wide-open three in the corner and I feel bad for him because he’s going to beat himself up over it.”

Coddling a guy for playing weak and not throwing down dunks isn't gonna make him play tougher. I don't think a coach needs to berate guys non-stop but coddling them isn't gonna do it.

I like Mick alot. I want him to succeed. But its been 10 years and its fairly obvious where his ceiling as a coach for UC is. If making the tourney as a 6-12 seed and an occasional sweet 16 is ok with you, then Mick is your guy. If you're longing for a final four or a championship then its hard to think Mick is the guy unless the something changes ... i.e. conference change.

I think this team has a low basketball IQ. Ellis missed a point blank layup in OT when noone was even close to him. He should have dunked it. Thomas gets the turnover at the end of the game and steps back for the three. How many times do they bring the ball down the court and instantly launch an offfbalance 3 without even attempting to move the ball to an open man.

(02-19-2016 02:09 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  These comments from Mick scare me....."I feel bad for Octavius, he didn’t try to miss layups. I feel bad for Gary Clark on the free throw lane violation Jake (Jacob Evans) missed a wide-open three in the corner and I feel bad for him because he’s going to beat himself up over it.”

Coddling a guy for playing weak and not throwing down dunks isn't gonna make him play tougher. I don't think a coach needs to berate guys non-stop but coddling them isn't gonna do it.

This is hilarious to me. You ever watched Cronin during a game?

(02-19-2016 04:04 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  When BB was going well with NCAA invites, y'all were glad that we didn't need to worry about Cronin leaving his alma mater. Now with a mediocre
year some want to find other HC options.
You are a fickle lot! Get over it!!!!!!!! 8 losses by a combined 31 points ,,including 1 loss by 10 and one by 7. (5 2pt losses).

Fire the coach when we aren't competitive, when we're blown out of multiple games,,

Not me... I've been in the fire Cronin camp for a while now. There are plenty of other viable options available. People think we are going to be stuck hiring a GCL coach or something.

Same here. Watching them play is pretty brutal. I have nothing personal against Mick, but the program is going nowhere fast. It all gets down to recruiting. It's been subpar for several years now. The skill level of these players is just plain bad.
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My concern as well. Is our coaching staff not just a good evaluator of talent and what it takes to be a high-level Division I player?

We've recruited Jermaine Lawrence, Quadri Moore, DeShaun Moorman, Shaq Thomas, Kevin Johnson, Adam Hyrciniuk, Darnell Wilkes, Larry Davis, G'Laun Guyn, the kid that transferred to Ball State (Johnny Davis?), etc. compare Mick's glowing reports about how these guys were "great prospects" and guys who knew how to score, get up and down the court, etc. Not one of them could shoot a lick, handle the ball well or be a good passer/distributor.

Compare our offense to that of Eggs-avier or Dayton or the skill level of that tremendously entertaining UNC-Duke game last week. We play like there are still peach baskets on either end of the floor and the basketball is just a half-inflated tire inner tube.

Caupain as a freshman shot 87% from the free throw line. Now he's at 76%. Kevin Johnson was at 85% at the charity stripe as a freshman. Now he's at about 70% as a junior. How does that happen? Think back to our free throw wizards like Titus Rubles, Cheik Modj, Darnell Wilkes, Justin Jackson. 50-55% was the norm, if we were lucky. Gives an insight into our inability or unwillingness to practice offense, or not even recruiting guys who have offensive skills.

(02-19-2016 07:52 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  not even recruiting guys who have offensive skills.

Offense is for friends and family, right?

Honestly, I think Mick has built a program with a reputation that leaves us out of the recruiting equation for prospects with BB skills & IQ. They want to play where those are valued, developed and a possible path to the NBA exists. That's NOT UC any longer.

(02-19-2016 11:07 AM)jarr Wrote:  Even if this team squeaks into the tournament, does that really do it for you anymore? With Louisville and SMU not elegible this year, it is even easier to get in now. We all know this team would have a 0% chance against any team in the tournament seeded higher than 6. If they are on the bubble come selection Sunday, I don't plan to be sweating it out like I have in the past. It's all just kind of boring anymore.

Wrong. This bubble is much more competitive that it probably has ever been. UC has shown they can play with and beat some of the best teams in the country, amazingly they have just failed to do it again and again. I'd give them a fighting chance against anyone in the tournament.

(02-19-2016 09:03 PM)digibrink Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 11:07 AM)jarr Wrote:  Even if this team squeaks into the tournament, does that really do it for you anymore? With Louisville and SMU not elegible this year, it is even easier to get in now. We all know this team would have a 0% chance against any team in the tournament seeded higher than 6. If they are on the bubble come selection Sunday, I don't plan to be sweating it out like I have in the past. It's all just kind of boring anymore.

Wrong. This bubble is much more competitive that it probably has ever been. UC has shown they can play with and beat some of the best teams in the country, amazingly they have just failed to do it again and again. I'd give them a fighting chance against anyone in the tournament.

Quick, without looking name the last good major team UC beat. I can't even think of it. Probably have to go back to the big east days. Here's a better one, name the last good, major team we beat out of conference play.

(02-19-2016 09:17 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 09:03 PM)digibrink Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 11:07 AM)jarr Wrote:  Even if this team squeaks into the tournament, does that really do it for you anymore? With Louisville and SMU not elegible this year, it is even easier to get in now. We all know this team would have a 0% chance against any team in the tournament seeded higher than 6. If they are on the bubble come selection Sunday, I don't plan to be sweating it out like I have in the past. It's all just kind of boring anymore.

Wrong. This bubble is much more competitive that it probably has ever been. UC has shown they can play with and beat some of the best teams in the country, amazingly they have just failed to do it again and again. I'd give them a fighting chance against anyone in the tournament.

Quick, without looking name the last good major team UC beat. I can't even think of it. Probably have to go back to the big east days. Here's a better one, name the last good, major team we beat out of conference play.

In fairness, I'd say last year's NCAA tournament win over Purdue qualifies. Have also had recent good OOC wins over Pittsburgh, NC State (twice), Missouri and Florida State (both in NCAA tournament), although none of those would be classified as "signature" wins, given UC's historical standing in college basketball.

(02-19-2016 09:47 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 09:17 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 09:03 PM)digibrink Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 11:07 AM)jarr Wrote:  Even if this team squeaks into the tournament, does that really do it for you anymore? With Louisville and SMU not elegible this year, it is even easier to get in now. We all know this team would have a 0% chance against any team in the tournament seeded higher than 6. If they are on the bubble come selection Sunday, I don't plan to be sweating it out like I have in the past. It's all just kind of boring anymore.

Wrong. This bubble is much more competitive that it probably has ever been. UC has shown they can play with and beat some of the best teams in the country, amazingly they have just failed to do it again and again. I'd give them a fighting chance against anyone in the tournament.

Quick, without looking name the last good major team UC beat. I can't even think of it. Probably have to go back to the big east days. Here's a better one, name the last good, major team we beat out of conference play.

In fairness, I'd say last year's NCAA tournament win over Purdue qualifies. Have also had recent good OOC wins over Pittsburgh, NC State (twice), Missouri and Florida State (both in NCAA tournament), although none of those would be classified as "signature" wins, given UC's historical standing in college basketball.

Do you really consider a win over a 9 seed Purdue team major? Pittsburgh, NCst, Mizzou? From looking at past records, I would say our last signature win was against Louisville (2014) in SKs senior year. The last nice OOC win I can come up with was a neutral court win over a good Maryland team in 2009-2010 with Lance. Maybe Florida State (2012), but that name doesn't really get anyone excited.

Watched the team practice yesterday....thought I'd share a pic

Obviously not, as the ball looks like it's going in.

(02-20-2016 07:22 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  Obviously not, as the ball looks like it's going in.

(02-20-2016 07:25 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 07:22 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  Obviously not, as the ball looks like it's going in.

Why did you change the picture when we were undefeated ? You are simply the reason why UC lost at Tulsa, I sir, have long suspected you may be behind UC's inability to shoot the ball in the basket.

(02-20-2016 07:40 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 07:25 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 07:22 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  Obviously not, as the ball looks like it's going in.

Why did you change the picture when we were undefeated ? You are simply the reason why UC lost at Tulsa, I sir, have long suspected you may be behind UC's inability to shoot the ball in the basket.

Yeah, I made a tactical error on that move. I do share in the blame for our loss. I just have not been able to find a sig pic with the same mojo we had when we were rocking The Bag. I'm trying folks....just haven't found a suitable replacement yet. I have time. Long as I figure it out before the AAC tourney.

I will be rolling out a new sig today for the UCONN game.

(02-19-2016 10:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Watched the team practice yesterday....thought I'd share a pic

Although you are the self-proclaimed "troll king", you can be pretty funny from time to time