(02-10-2016 02:01 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  A metric I find extremely valuable FWIW. Interceptions per attempt

Stockstill: 1 in 54
McGough: 1 in 52
Litton: 1 in 48
Mullens: 1 in 43

Matt Johnson had 8 in 87 attempts. Of course, that boosted his completion rate to 63% so that's something.

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:48 PM)born in the burg Wrote:  I think that the list loses fidelity after McGough. Regarding the rest of the list, the starter is a guess in some cases. See article for those being pushed. There are a lot of P5 transfers who will be in the mix for starting jobs it seems.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football...kings-2016

17. Mullens, Southern Miss
23. Stockstill, MTSU
49. Litton, Marshall
56. McGough, F_U
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78. Fishback, WKU
91. Leftwich, UTEP
106. Bentley, ODU
107. Morris, UNT
115. Sturm, UTSA
116. Driskel, F_U
118. Higgins, Louisiana Tech
124. Olsen, Charlotte
126. German, Rice

Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

(02-10-2016 04:00 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:48 PM)born in the burg Wrote:  I think that the list loses fidelity after McGough. Regarding the rest of the list, the starter is a guess in some cases. See article for those being pushed. There are a lot of P5 transfers who will be in the mix for starting jobs it seems.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football...kings-2016

17. Mullens, Southern Miss
23. Stockstill, MTSU
49. Litton, Marshall
56. McGough, F_U
-----------------------
78. Fishback, WKU
91. Leftwich, UTEP
106. Bentley, ODU
107. Morris, UNT
115. Sturm, UTSA
116. Driskel, F_U
118. Higgins, Louisiana Tech
124. Olsen, Charlotte
126. German, Rice

Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

I guess when you're at the bottom of the conference in both football and basketball every single year, you also need something to hang onto. What that something is, I have no idea. Baseball? Market size?

Litton will end up having the best season of all cusa QBs this year. Id say over 4000 yards, 35 tds and < 8 INTs. Gonna be a huge jump.

(02-10-2016 04:15 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Litton will end up having the best season of all cusa QBs this year. Id say over 4000 yards, 35 tds and < 8 INTs. Gonna be a huge jump.

Yep. Will probably win the Heisman.

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:48 PM)born in the burg Wrote:  I think that the list loses fidelity after McGough. Regarding the rest of the list, the starter is a guess in some cases. See article for those being pushed. There are a lot of P5 transfers who will be in the mix for starting jobs it seems.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football...kings-2016

17. Mullens, Southern Miss
23. Stockstill, MTSU
49. Litton, Marshall
56. McGough, F_U
-----------------------
78. Fishback, WKU
91. Leftwich, UTEP
106. Bentley, ODU
107. Morris, UNT
115. Sturm, UTSA
116. Driskel, F_U
118. Higgins, Louisiana Tech
124. Olsen, Charlotte
126. German, Rice

Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

I think a lot of USM fans look at FAU and FIU as the successors to UCF / USF. That's not going to win you any points. We were nice to their fans and, by the time we wanted to shower them with derision, they were gone. I think we're just trying to get ahead of the curve this time.

(02-10-2016 04:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:00 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:48 PM)born in the burg Wrote:  I think that the list loses fidelity after McGough. Regarding the rest of the list, the starter is a guess in some cases. See article for those being pushed. There are a lot of P5 transfers who will be in the mix for starting jobs it seems.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football...kings-2016

17. Mullens, Southern Miss
23. Stockstill, MTSU
49. Litton, Marshall
56. McGough, F_U
-----------------------
78. Fishback, WKU
91. Leftwich, UTEP
106. Bentley, ODU
107. Morris, UNT
115. Sturm, UTSA
116. Driskel, F_U
118. Higgins, Louisiana Tech
124. Olsen, Charlotte
126. German, Rice

Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

I guess when you're at the bottom of the conference in both football and basketball every single year, you also need something to hang onto. What that something is, I have no idea. Baseball? Market size?

Has one winning season and you are the toast of the conference.

(02-10-2016 04:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I think a lot of USM fans look at FAU and FIU as the successors to UCF / USF. That's not going to win you any points. We were nice to their fans and, by the time we wanted to shower them with derision, they were gone. I think we're just trying to get ahead of the curve this time.

We're not big UCF fans down here either, USF's ok though. Why is FAU here? I guess it was a market for market thing the conference went through during the last realignment.

(02-10-2016 05:18 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I think a lot of USM fans look at FAU and FIU as the successors to UCF / USF. That's not going to win you any points. We were nice to their fans and, by the time we wanted to shower them with derision, they were gone. I think we're just trying to get ahead of the curve this time.

We're not big UCF fans down here either, USF's ok though. Why is FAU here? I guess it was a market for market thing the conference went through during the last realignment.

FIU

Well, I don't bear you any ill will, I'm just trying to give you some context. USM fans have this jealousy of more developed markets. I wonder if it ever occured to them that Orlando was just a swamp before they decided to build Disney World. There's no reason Mississippi can't become more developed. You look at the state flag, though, and it's apparent that's just not a priority. So, we mock those for whom it is a priority... like Tulane fans laughing at how football-obsessed LSU is. In my mind, there's a happy medium to be struck, but Americans aren't good at that lately.

Hard to judge Olsen since he's never thrown a pass in D1.

(02-10-2016 05:06 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:00 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

I guess when you're at the bottom of the conference in both football and basketball every single year, you also need something to hang onto. What that something is, I have no idea. Baseball? Market size?

Has one winning season and you are the toast of the conference.

Here's a fun fact:

FAU football has ten losing seasons since the inception of their program in 2001.

USM has ten losing seasons since 1972.

Or how about:

USM has one more losing season in twenty years in CUSA than FAU does in three years in CUSA.

As an ODU fan I take issue with Bentley at 106. That is giving him WAY to much credit.

(02-10-2016 05:06 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:00 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

I guess when you're at the bottom of the conference in both football and basketball every single year, you also need something to hang onto. What that something is, I have no idea. Baseball? Market size?

Has one winning season and you are the toast of the conference.

You know you're a n00b when you make a statement like that.

(02-10-2016 01:52 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 10:48 PM)born in the burg Wrote:  I think that the list loses fidelity after McGough. Regarding the rest of the list, the starter is a guess in some cases. See article for those being pushed. There are a lot of P5 transfers who will be in the mix for starting jobs it seems.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football...kings-2016

17. Mullens, Southern Miss
23. Stockstill, MTSU
49. Litton, Marshall
56. McGough, F_U
-----------------------
78. Fishback, WKU
91. Leftwich, UTEP
106. Bentley, ODU
107. Morris, UNT
115. Sturm, UTSA
116. Driskel, F_U
118. Higgins, Louisiana Tech
124. Olsen, Charlotte
126. German, Rice

Can you refer to FAU and FIU as what they are called. The F_U is lazy and ignorant.

Agreed. F_U should only be used when referring to both schools together. WTF? Typing the A or I is easier than typing _.

(02-10-2016 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 05:18 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I think a lot of USM fans look at FAU and FIU as the successors to UCF / USF. That's not going to win you any points. We were nice to their fans and, by the time we wanted to shower them with derision, they were gone. I think we're just trying to get ahead of the curve this time.

We're not big UCF fans down here either, USF's ok though. Why is FAU here? I guess it was a market for market thing the conference went through during the last realignment.

FIU

Well, I don't bear you any ill will, I'm just trying to give you some context. USM fans have this jealousy of more developed markets. I wonder if it ever occured to them that Orlando was just a swamp before they decided to build Disney World. There's no reason Mississippi can't become more developed. You look at the state flag, though, and it's apparent that's just not a priority. So, we mock those for whom it is a priority... like Tulane fans laughing at how football-obsessed LSU is. In my mind, there's a happy medium to be struck, but Americans aren't good at that lately.

well stated.....humor is sometimes lost in translation as the clock tick tocks for some....

words and phrasing are not easy at times.....just like putting a successful business plan together or fielding a group of warriors gelling at the same time....

controlling 'fanaticism' can be a sticky wicket at times.....

Back onto the proper topic, I don't think Higgins will be the starter for Tech at all in the Fall. If he is, expect us to do poorly. I'm sure hes a great guy, but he has done nothing to show that he deserves that starting spot imo. These kind of rankings really are extremely pointless, but hey great water cooler material.

(02-12-2016 04:58 AM)BoutThemDawgs Wrote:  Back onto the proper topic, I don't think Higgins will be the starter for Tech at all in the Fall. If he is, expect us to do poorly. I'm sure hes a great guy, but he has done nothing to show that he deserves that starting spot imo. These kind of rankings really are extremely pointless, but hey great water cooler material.

ranking threads only deserve the respect they deserve.....homerism

or did that fly overhead?

it's a simple ranking thread on a cusa bbs....have fun with your version of fanaticism....I like having fun....

eventually, we''ll find out in the fall....to that, I say good luck and

E_sy, e_sy, guys. _f you w_ll g_ve me _ ch_nce, _ w_ll expl__n.

When posting this list, i did not cut and paste. I typed the list from scratch. I glanced back twice and typed the list from memory. In my memory, I HONESTLY couldn't differentiate between the two schools. My first thought was to go back and fix it, but then I thought I would stir the pot by leaving it as it was as an homage to those who use the _ insult almost exclusively when referring to either of these schools.

Regarding name smack, I think that the humor of referring to both schools as F_U pales in comparison to my favorite, which is to refer to each of you distinctly (i.e., Florida Ocean and Florida Airport).

I didn't expect such a strong reaction, as I didn't know that either school had any fans (or at least any who speak or read English). Besides, if either of you would do anything to distinguish yourselves from the other schools in FL that the football world does not know or care about, then we wouldn't be having this problem.

Again, I wish that I had a reason to differentiate between you guys (or care to learn), but you each have yet to provide me one.

(02-11-2016 12:27 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 05:06 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 04:00 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(02-10-2016 01:57 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Complaining about it isn't going to help, the people that use name smack know what they're doing.

I guess you're right, but when you went to a low tier University in a state that is 51st in education (If you include D.C.) and third in obesity you need something to hang onto.

I guess when you're at the bottom of the conference in both football and basketball every single year, you also need something to hang onto. What that something is, I have no idea. Baseball? Market size?

Has one winning season and you are the toast of the conference.

Here's a fun fact:

FAU football has ten losing seasons since the inception of their program in 2001.

USM has ten losing seasons since 1972.

Or how about:

USM has one more losing season in twenty years in CUSA than FAU does in three years in CUSA.

The problem with that is the fact despite years of success you're in the same place as your were then.
You take shots at the new schools moving up, but if you were have to take one program 20 years from now you're taking FAU and FIU.
The same way UCF whipped right past you.
In the end you have been playing football 50 years before FAU even became a school yet we are in the same spot.
That says more about than us.
So it's Mr. Florida Atlantic to you bud.

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The problem with that is the fact despite years of success you're in the same place as your were then.
You take shots at the new schools moving up, but if you were have to take one program 20 years from now you're taking FAU and FIU.
The same way UCF whipped right past you.
In the end you have been playing football 50 years before FAU even became a school yet we are in the same spot.
That says more about than us.
So it's Mr. Florida Atlantic to you bud.
[/quote]

So, Mr. Florida Atlantic, in what P5 conference do you see your Owls (or Panthers, or whatever) ending up in in, say, the next 50 years?

We are where we are BECAUSE of where we are. OUR history + YOUR location would have us exactly where we desire to be in the hierarchy of college football. Despite your market advantage and desirable location, you will not surpass the G5 level of college football. Congratulations on reaching our level. Get used to it. There is a greater chance that you will float off into the ocean than move "up."